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FBC Lou Dobbs Tonight November 24, 2014

Everybody agrees that our immigration system is broken. Unfortunately, washington has allowed the problem to fester for too long. So what im going to be laying out is the things that i can do with my Lawful Authority as president to make the system work better, even as i continue to work with congress and encourage them to get a bipartisan comprehensive bill that can solve the entire problem. He makes it sound as though, doesnt he, 1600 pennsylvania was located in some other city rather than washington. The details of his unilateral action are beginning to trickle out at this hour. Long time immigration activist congressman luis guterros telling bill oreilly the plan would call for two year work permits along with Social Security numbers for those Illegal Immigrants whose children are u. S. Citizens. I think bill, the president is going to choose between five and ten year that you have to be in the United States for five to ten years and you have to have been working here and you are going to pay for a background check, you are going to submit your fingerprints. If they come back clear, hes going to give you a Work Authorization for two years and a Social Security card. He will put you on the books paying taxes. The estimated number under those circumstances would be about two and a half million Illegal Immigrants if the president were to settle on a ten year residency. A number that rises to 3. 3 million if he lowers the requirement to five years, another two million are expected to receive a waiver to stay in the country on technology and agriculture visas. An expected extension or elimination of the 31yearold age limit for his daca program will add another half million. The number becomes impressive. The congressman among the 18 democrats who have been invited to the white house tonight for dinner and an explanation of whats to come tomorrow. Not a single republican was invited despite their incoming majority in both houses of congress. Judiciary Committee Chairman excoriated the president in an oped today, writing quote, congress has not agreed on how to reform the immigration system but the president has decided to ignore the constitution and alter the law without new statutes. This is a slap in the face of the American People who voted on november 4th to change the way washington operates. In fact, the wall street journal releasing a poll today showing just 38 of those surveyed support the president taking executive action on the issue of immigration. The president also today placing the blame on congressional inaction in justifying that executive fiat. The case the president will make is that we have seen the congress has not acted and so the question is should the president use the authority thats vested within the constitution, invested with the presidency, to try to address some of these problems, and the president i think pretty unequivocally believes that the answer to that question is he should take the steps that are necessary to try to solve some of these problems. Our next guest says americas immigration laws are only as good as our commitment to their enforcement. Joining us is congressman randy forbes, member of the Judiciary Committee that has passed four immigration measures. He also serves on the House Armed Services committee. Congressman, good to see you. Your boss, as i just reported, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, saying by acting lawlessly and assuming legislative power, the president is driving full speed toward a constitutional crisis threatening to unravel the nations system of checks and balances. Are we there . Lou, i can only sum this up in two words. Staggering arrogance. Because you look at the president and the president s talking about congress not acting. Well, its his Democrat Senate that sat on 387 bills over the last years and have done nothing. You dont even have the Republican Senate sworn in yet and the president is trying to take this action. Hes not trying to fix the law. Hes trying to break the law and youre exactly right. We are going to be headed for a constitutional crisis that the president s making and perhaps one of the worst things is hes going to poison this well so much that we are not going to be able to do the fixes that we really need to do to reform the immigration system. The immigration system will be subject to my commentary here tonight. I hear this over and over. Its been repeated to the point that i think it has become, in fact, a big lie perpetrated by the way by president obama find its a convenient device, and the reality is quite different. We have an immigration system, if the laws are enforced and our border is secured, we dont have a problem in the world. Do you agree, congressman . Well, lou, its exactly what you said. Its not that you dont have the laws on the books. When the president says that the system is broke, its broke because he wont enforce the law. If he enforced the law the system would not be broken. I would say this, lou. There are some things that we need to do to tweak that system. The house has been doing that with a series of incremental bills where we let everybody come to the table, we make the changes that are needed. Thats the way we need to approach this. But for the president to essentially come to you and say look, if you dont give me your car, im going to steal your car, and then use the fact that you didnt give him the car as justification to break the law, that just doesnt make sense and as you said with the poll, the American People arent buying what hes selling. I wish the president , the federal government would settle on just one of my cars. We can come to a deal pretty quickly. That would be a lot cheaper for all of us. The reality is as you say, four bills reported out of the committee passed by the committee, foundation which i support in every way. The approach that your committee has taken and this is the foundation on border security, interior enforcement, guest worker visas, high skilled worker visas, this is the foundation of immigration reform, in my opinion, yet the president wont even take up those issues with you. He insists on the senate bill, he is now issuing an executive fiat. You mentioned the constitutional crisis. I have heard some people talking, appropriations chairman talking about recission. You and i and everyone who is informed knows that thats all but an impossibility. To get a recission bill through. There is some talk about not funding there is no, as far as i can see, realistic way to stop the consequences to halt the impact of his executive fiat. Prove me wrong. Tell me im wrong, please. Well, lou, i wish you were completely wrong. Youre not. Any time we have someone breaks the law, it hurts the system. When the president breaks the law, it puts the system in crisis. Thats what the president s doing. There are some things that we will be doing to try to mitigate what the president is doing, but there is no question when he puts us into this constitutional spiral, this isnt a challenge between the president and the republicans. This is a challenge between the president and the constitution of the United States. Thats what makes it so difficult. Congressman randy forbes, always good to see you. Thank you. Thank you, lou. Obamacare architect professor Jonathan Gruber of m. I. T. Says it took what he calls a lack of transparency and quote, the stupidity of the American Voter to pass obamacare. Now we are learning it also allegedly took threats and tantrums to launch the obamacare website. According to a newly uncovered email, those pesky things, from the former second ranking official at the centers for medicare and Medicaid Service who complained that her boss at the time, cms administrator, used what she called cruel and uncaring tactics to make sure that website launched on time. The official went on to say she was threatened with a demotion or forced retirement if she did not deliver. Fact of the matter is they hit the deadline but Everything Else hit the website. Gruber himself finally facing some consequences for his endless disparagement of americans intelligence. The m. I. T. Professor stepping down from a consultancy contract with the state of vermont after folks there organized a petition calling for his ouster. They are putting in single pair system. Its going to be wonderful, im told. If he needs consoling, some clips were put together of democrats who just lavishly praise his work. Most people think hes one of the best outside experts. Mr. Gruber at m. I. T. I dont know if you had seen Jonathan Grubers m. I. T. Analysis. Jonathan gruber is one of the most respected economists in the world. I have stolen ideas from liberally john gruber. John gruber. He must be in shock tonight. None of those folks can remember him. None of those folks seem to know what role he played in obamacare. I dont know if they could recognize him right now. They cant put enough distance between themselves and the professor. And the mainstream liberal National Media ignoring the story. Politifact reporting that since the story broke last monday, cnn has mentioned gruber 27 times. Msnbc mustering the courage to mention him 79 times. Fox news, well, 779 times. Republicans now circulating a list of the 22 times president obama has admitted he does not have the Constitutional Authority to change immigration laws through executive action. The president will move forward with executive amnesty the white house says despite his repeated acknowledgment of the limitations of the presidency. Our next guest, im told reliably blames republican. Joining me the five cohost columnist for the hill, juan williams. Great to have you here. Your spokesman today saying the president s executive action will quote, cement his legacy of lawlessness and ruin the chances for congressional action on this issue and many others. Dont you think the president is making a pretty serious mistake poisoning that well . Well, Speaker Boehner called him Emperor Obama, lou, and it struck me that gee, things were going so well before, why would Emperor Obama risk a Good Relationship, a productive relationship, with republicans on the hill. In fact, there has not been a Good Relationship and from the president s perspective, he has been waiting and remember, there was a senate bill, a Bipartisan Senate bill, 14 republicans on board, thats been sitting there for a year and a half. Harry reid, the Democratic Senate majority leader for the moment before republicans take over, he said if republicans just put it up for a vote, it would pass. There are the votes there to pass the bill. The good thing about that, im glad you reminded me that harry said that, because he would never hold up a vote in the senate. I know he would not. I can imagine the outrage he must feel deep within his soul. The idea that Speaker Boehner and the house of representatives would consider themselves an equal part of government with volition of their own and that there be some burden for them to pass what the senate sent over and of course, to do exactly what the president insists, if thats where hes drawing his authority to issue executive fiats, he is going to have a laundry list of issues that he can now go after, right . Well, you know, your point is well taken. Theres a lot of politics at play here but i would come back at you by saying i dont think theres anybody who thinks that the immigration system works well in the country, and big business, the chamber of commerce, which is very supportive of the republican party, is at the front of that march saying we want a new immigration system. Part of apparently what the president will announce tomorrow is an increase in these visas that will bring in high skilled talented people, especially sought after by the high tech industry. The high tech industry, microsoft, for example, has a handful of visa holders. I have heard this. Bill gates saying we need an infinity of immigrant workers. None of them approach the issue from the standpoint of wages in this country and a middle class that is being atritted and that is we have had stagnant wages in this country over the past 15 years and arguably working men and women have had basically stagnant wages for three decades now. That doesnt suggest we need more immigrant workers and certainly illegal immigrant workers when we are bringing in millions of folks lawfully every year. I have a different view, which is that theres a very High Percentage of the immigrants who start their own businesses. Dont forget, you look at Something Like google, thats an immigrant. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The founders of google arent Illegal Immigrants. I didnt say no, no. In other words why is it that you wildeyed amnesty seekers and open borders advocates always try to conflate legal and illegal immigration . No, no, no. First of all, im not an open border guy. But i would say this, that if you let people who are well educated and have ideas and talent then leave our country after getting an education here, you are taking away people who could create jobs. Is there anyone who has introduced legislation or even suggested that we deport them . That we not embrace them . I dont think so. I think thats part of quote unquote, big lie, the broken immigration system. The fact well, you know, the facts are we are going to see a president test his constitutional powers and perhaps the patience of some 60 of americans who say they dont want him to issue such a decree. Theres Political Risk there. I agree with you on that. I agree with you theres tremendous Political Risk for the president but i think theres going to be some response also from the Latino Community whose families have been torn apart by record levels of deportation. The consequences of their decision to enter the country illegally are the burden and the responsibility of exactly whom . I think we have benefited economically. Remember juan, we cant continue that without an answer. I think the country has benefited from them, lou. I am sure that we did. But im just saying, who made the decision to come here and to endure those consequences, juan . Well, they pay taxes. But they dont get the benefits. They dont get the Social Security. You resist the answer. Whats the answer . I will leave you with the question to contemplate until our next time and i hope its soon. Juan, thanks very much. Youre welcome, lou. 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An invasion is the imposition of armed forces across a sovereign border for political purpose without the consent of that sovereign nation. There is no question that has happened, lou. Why is it that nato, president obama and others, are reluctant to call it what it obviously is . Lou, i dont know. Clearly, this requires a forceful response. Vladimir putin is driving the train back to a new cold war. We should not let that occur and we cannot let this kind of aggression go unanswered. Russians, in fact, including president putin, are bragging that they have Tactical Nuclear superiority over nato and the United States along their western border with europe. Do you concur . They do. Russia has many more Tactical Nuclear weapons but lou, this is not going to turn into a Tactical Nuclear exchange. What we should

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