Up to work without getting paid. They all work in your states, these are folks who if they dont have a pay chick will not be paycheck will not be able to spend that money in your states. Will have a direct impact on Americas National security. Lou critics say this is the president s amnesty fiat for Illegal Immigrants that will do the most damage to our economy. That is why Republican Leaders are standing firm. And insisting any dhs funding bill gut the president s executive action on amnesty. For their part, Senate Democrats are filibustering the bill. Tonight, they successfully blocked it for a furth time. Tonight, well talk with one of those fighting the president s order in the court. The attorney general of state of oklahoma scott pruitt. Oklahoma one of 26 state that have sued president to stop him from unilaterally implements amnesty through fiat. And Obama Administration often down plays threats of what they call remnants of al qaeda, they are trying to excite the American Public about the al qaeda afilliated group, al shabaab. This was dhs secretary jay johnson warning americans after al shabaab put out a video threatening attacks on the mall of america and other Shopping Centers in a number of western nations. I would say that if anyone is planning to go to the mall of America Today they have to be particularly careful as statement you read indicates there will be inenhanceed security there that will be apparent. To people federal security. Enhanced security there. Lou surely the Obama Administration was not trying to play politics with the al shabaab warning with the dhs funds deadline just 4 days away, that is perhaps significant that Intelligence Community said they are not aware of any specific credibleible plot by the group that African Group diminishes and marginalizeed all these shoppers in the mall of america do not seem overly impressed. They are shopping undeterred. We take that up and what is behind the al shabaab threat, the Obama Administration warnings. And Russias Putin claims that war with ukraine is unlikely it that a ruse . Has the west written off ukraine and its 46 Million People, we ask michael sockal and we begin with a threat from radical islamic terrorist, ashton carter, a lasting debate of Islamic State after a meeting with more than two dozen top military officials and diplomats in kuwait, noncommital what asked about u. S. Ground troops. We need to be convinceed that any use of your forces is necessary, is going to be sufficient that we thought through not just the first step, but the second step. And the third step. Joining us now forminger army add vie chief advice chief of staff general jack keane. Good to be here. Lou ash carter. On the jobless than a week, almost that is first time there was a meeting of the minds of the people reports to him about the threat that the president promised to destroy. Yep well first of all carter has a reputation, i know him myself but i do not know him well he is thoughtful, he is approach able, he listened. I am convinced that generals will be able to talk to him let them know their concerns that is step one that has probably happened. Step two he has to know by now given all research he as done that nearterm reality for u. S. And the coalition is to stop and destroy isis in iraq and in syria. Otherwise, they continue to kill they continue to maim, that is the nearterm objective longterm, is radical islam in general, some of that is nonkinetic. But we have no strategy for that either. Lou no strategy to carry out what i refer to as president s campaign to conduct sensitivity training, but the fact is that there is no arcticlation of a military strategy, and the congress has been asking for this for months, and as you say no specifics about how to carry out a war gabe what they call against what they call the violent extremism last week at the socalled summit. How can we go on with what seems to be a president at farce when it comes to fighting the Islamic State. Frankly, i think it will continue. We have a strategy to deal with iraq. We have said before, with depend on local forces ground force that is say defeat mechanism ni one know how they will preterm president prefuses to strengthen their hand with strb special forcing and in Forward Air Controllers and apache helicopter, these would make this force more effective and decisive. Wehe has said no. The only way to defeat isis in syria is ground force you cannot do it by air they have gained ground since the air attack has gun there is no ground force. Lou and president is buying time what is not clear is for whom he is buying this time,. The same process as were witnessing in ukraine it appears that nato, and the president have written off ukraine. Because there is no action that im aware of that has been take than would forestall putin and his military from doing what they wanted in Eastern Ukraine and through the balkan states, and the remainder of ukraine. Yeah. I mean, putin has accomplished what he wanted, my gut feeling he is surprised a little bit with theize of what he was able to do with the ease that he was able to do particularly with crimea there was no push back. Got a bit dealing with Eastern Ukraine he wants government of kiev to Pay Attention to him not move toward the west. With youwest. I think he discovered a feckless europe and a feckless United States that has encouraged him to do more. I believe on table in in the future is the challenge to nato in article 5 and beginning with callbalbalbal baltics with same stpraepblg as strategy as before. Lou we are looking at two examples of threats one traditional large scale forces in europe earn europe. And in the least were looking at middle east were looking at insurgents if you will rag tag bands moving quickly tpwaour illaguerrilla forces, were not doing well againster in force. Well, and the fact of the matter circumstance is, were decapitates the military. The president and congress have their head in the sand. That has been on a hate us for two years if kicks in next year we start slashing Defense Department capabilities against that makes no sense in the face of a rising threat in the world. Radical islam is increasing 4 fold in the last 5 to 6 years we have a revisionist russia on the move, and a client that wants to a china that wants to dominate in region, no are all major challenges facing us, meanwhile we cut the rug out from our military forces. Lou is there much will in the Congress Went either Political Party to reverse whata potentially a catastrophic trend for our military. I did testimony before the Senate Armed Service come eurty a couplecommittee acouple of weeks ago, i did detect some bipartisan support. 123450support. General jack keane thank you. Thank you. Lou a troubling deal reportedly emerging out of the Nuclear Talks 20 u. S. 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Lou this looks to me, i think talking with jeanal jack keane and jean rally jack keane and others a bleak moment for ukraine and the aourbg okay youianukraine they arebasically at the mercy of putin. This is a bleak moment for europe. About to lose some gain its had in russia. This is happening on the watch of this generation. This is tragic situation which has been getting a lot of attention you but not enough of a reaction that is lack of reaction or adequate reaction that is causing this. Lou weve talked. I have listened to your theories on soft power smart power over the course of years i do not understand atthispoint why there has been a inability on part of the okay, youian governmentaourbgukraine began governmentto engage is up support from germany and United States. Because there has been a lot of Wishful Thinking in the west, saying were liveing in 21 century, cold war is over, here we are in 2015, and russian tanks are rolling deep into europe to largest country of europe unchecked. Weakness weapons there are a lot of moments that weapons can only be stopped by weapons not just mere diplomacy. Or just sanctions they do work but they need time before they really akoch blue chip accomplish results. With antitank weapons the tanks are rollinging forward so they know from where they are fired at, you wish to see how this are infiltrating. It is brings back memories of afghanistan, for me, in afghanistan, oil prices soviet union was losing on the economic front, it took Ronald Reagan and Charlie Wilson to supply afghan rebels to put an end to the soviet empire, i remember how it happened. For me that did very much similar. But this might be a different outcome this time. Lou because straight forwardly, putin has his forces arrayed in such a manner that they will maintain superiority irrespective of what nato and the United States were to do in shortterm. The United States condition even make a move to move forward multiple rocket launchers, already putin has that county force in place. He has a significant advantage as you know about armor he has troops that are in position that could move atlanta slightest session of a react by nato, what is the next step for nato, those who are concerned about nato. About ukraines territoryial integrity, sovereignty and people. Nato and the United States have vast soup why arety super yourty over russia. It is just a matter of will over will. I know almost every day here, is called by merkel and obama. There is not enough help. They help is not coming, when help is not coming, just half measures diplomatic measures, the nice telephone conversations are not going to do the trick the ukraine soldiers are fighting bravely because they are fighting for freedom make no mistake this is not war about territoryo or this or that railway juncture this is a war about values. They are for ever doomed to be in a corrupt government. Because the values of the west that ukrainians are definding with their own life. It is up to the west to help them defend those. West berlin was definded defended when stalin wanted to grab it, then turned into showcase, that is what we want to do real reforms real changes and crackdown on corruption make that country to funk impeachfunction fortunately but efficiently but we need physical protection. We need to west berlin model that only u. S. Can do, i saw american hero, john mccain saying he is ashamed of his country, i never heard him say that i call john my friend, and i am proud of Many Americans americans have to act now, i am sure this is best country in world, in position toable in right direction to act in right direction. I am not proud of john mccain saying he is act shamed. I am not saying that he is trying to help. If i may he may be trying too help but he has been trying for some months without success. And we need to get to issue of what happens next. Because, it is Clear Limited be much shufps options to ukrainian xem people and government, where can they turn, how can you stop russia from moves into the balkans. Taking on any other terrory they want. Putin will not stop until he is stopped. And again what that can be done is ukraine should continue. Will continue to do, to put up more resistance to reform army and reform the country to create models, but they are looking at United States which is for all of us a a beacon of freedom. I think were looking at United States and at president of the United States, this administration, to back up you know their diplomacy they have done a very good job. For mobilizing people in europe for sanctions but more is needed than that. These are defensive weapons uukrainians cannot attack russian with antitank weapons or radars but they can check their further advance,. Lou how much time does United States have to come to its senses . And how much time does nato have to come to its senses. Time is short, i think there will be a very short even short break point. One to take go to moldova and toerg organize Something Like he is looking at balkan countries. Lou always good to talk with you. Thank you. Michael saakashvili. 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