Its really close, really close. Here we are, if you know for 100 years, neil, the showme state was a good predictor. 19042004, whoever won missouri won the presidency for his or her party, well, his party only. If you take a look right now. 99 . Its not that much of a surpuz are neckandneck, and you can see the breakdown here, not a surprise at all that cruz is playing really strongly down here. We talked about this earlier. Springfield is here, known as the buckle on the bible belt. His wife was there, his dad was there, hes been working this area pretty hard. Trump more in the north and in the east, near st. Louis, but just overall, this idea that they would be so close in this state also shows whats going on, if you like as far as the democratic contest is concerned, you can see the same closeness with sanders and clinton as well. So it just shows you the push and pull, and a lot of candidates actually, neil, in ways giving up. President obama just conceded it. Focus attention elsewhere, hasnt been on anyones hit list. Back to you. Neil thats very good. Really good, and you said it much more succinctly than i. Want to hear a fun fact about politics in missouri. Neil please. In missouri, candidates who run statewide campaigns cut two ads in the st. Louis area around the state, especially in rural areas, they have to cut an ad saying missouri. I went to university of missouri. Its missouri. You went to mizzou . Yes. I got arrested in a panty raid. Thats why i didnt go there because i heard. Neil if you think about it, lou, donald trump is about 600 delegates shy, more than halfway there. And looking at the states and the allocations, a lot of polls in new york, that could change. 95 delegates. Leading in connecticut. Thats 28 delegates. Leading in pennsylvania. 71 delegates. That i believe is winnertakeall. What do you see happening . Looks like hes got a shot at getting close, and going to depend what obviously kasich decides, and cruz. Neil kasich will fight on. He will, but he is also running the risk of being a bottom feeder. Hes got one victory here, and fewer votes than rubio who withdrew from the race. Neil right. Its going to get complicated for them all. But i really see it being resolved well before the convention, because the party has to have at least a sense of selfpreservation that would suggest theres no point in going through this process if we cant win the general, and they cant win the general if they go into the convention, and you know, just continue the nonsense. Neil wait one second. Dont want to leave you out. Were all going to look at japan, china, foreign asian markets, very concerned about the prospect of a donald trump presidency. Theyve been really against the language hes used and a lot of what they say, the antitrade, not fair trade position hes taken, so sure enough, theyre mixed. So having said that. Theyre concerned, the world is increasingly concerned what they see happening here, or will they get over it . Im old enough to remember they were concerned about Ronald Reagan. I dont believe him on the issue of trade. I believe he is an actual businessman whos been out there and done business, this is his opening very hard position in negotiating trade deal. Neil threaten tariffs with you. And i think he knows better, he knows who that punishes in the end. If you look to the different people hes talked to about economics already, thats not how hes going to carry things out. I dont love that he says one thing and does another. You think hes another politician . No, i think its more than that. This is how hes going to negotiate. Im going cut you off completely. Neil kennedy, but he does raise a good point, saying we havent done wonders with the wave of the negotiating agreements now and have a half trillion dollar deficit. What does that mean . What does it mean to fairly negotiate the treaties . How has our country been screwed over by that . And how can they open up the markets to our benefit. Neil you think we have . Negotiated them poorly . Neil yes. Politicians have been in charge of the negotiating. Neil the traditional guys have failed us. They have failed and institutionalized failure. Were looking at 40 years, and its interesting to me, that trump doesnt really talk about the specifics of it. You can do a quick broad brush of it. Weve got 40 years of consecutive trade deficits. 18 trillion in external debt which is the cumulative effect of the deficits. 19 trillion debt. We are a country right now with very few choices. We have to create a balance in trade for this country, or we will be devastated. You think the trade imbalance is closing our deficit . I think theyre two not related issues. The fact we have a budget deficit and trade deficit are very unrelated. No, no, no. Let me finish my point. Iep going to finish my point this time, and its the point you made before. Please do. When you said, when you said that we cant i dont think hes going to carry through on that trade stuff. Guess what . That sort of thinking among many republicans, unless he gets 1237 is going to lead to a contested convention. They cant trust his judgment. And then he falls back. Im the guy whos not going to deal with you at all. And then right after they laugh at him. How about this . Ioon oo. Laughing at him . What about saying we said markets were moving in the other direction, theyre not laughing. No theyre not. The hang seng didnt say anything tonight. You will have the last word, but how can you get government out of the way and have actual free trade and actual prosperity and truwealth creation in this country. Get the fed out of way as well so people can make real money again . Will donald trump do that . Is there any way to appeal to his best rational side . Neil lou dobbs . Let me say, charlie misunderstood me or perhaps i wasnt clear. I said 40 years of consecutive trade deficits which resulted in 18 trillion in external debt. Not the national debt, theyre separate issues. One, the causal relationship exists and the other it doesnt. So i dont understand why youre concerned about that. But in either case, were talking about an immense debt that leads us, a debtor nation in perpetuity. You have to create a balanced trade relationship with our trading partners or youre going to suffocate and strangle this nation. Politicians on both sides have screwed the American Worker is what youre saying. Very shortsighted, incredibly shelfish. Neil i can interrupt, illinois and missouri for democrats are too close to call as well. Illinois simply too close to caught. Bernie sanders needs a pickup and not getting it, and doesnt look like hes going to get it in illinois or missouri. You never know that number has switched in his favor here. For the republicans an important battle because that could leave cruz getting shutout entirely tonight . It could, i dont know, im not one thinks that he has a lot of fight left in him here. I understand its the last hope, but at some point youve sent everybody up against trump and theyre not standing there. Neil isnt his argument that oneonone with this guy, i could beat this guy. Thats always if i could choose the people, if theres nobody in the race, choose the people im against he has waited it out to the point where. Neil two other guys challenging trump i think kasich is a nonfactor and they have to treat him like that. Theyre going to turn guns on each other full force this week, and thats when you are going to see, if cruz has anything left in the tank. He didnt tonight because the race was so focused on ohio and florida. Neil i want to bring in former dallas mayor Steve Bartlett endorsed john kasich today. Good to have you. Why kasich . Why not cruz . I assumure not a fan of donald trump. Explain. All of the above. John kasich opened a window in ohio. I dont think my endorsement put him over the top. He was going to do that. Theres a window, to get this to a convention with no one having a majority on the first ballot and have the convention what conventions are historically supposed to do, to consider the candidates, listen to a debate and figure out a way forward. Right now, i think the Republican Party is the direction were on now is at the edge of a precipice which well jump off with a party of exclusion. Neil mayor, you can see a mathematical means by which the governor can do that . 129 delegates or whatever. A long way from the 619 at a minimum that donald trump has . With minimal candidates can you get it to a convention where no one wins on the first ballot. Remember, the principle, in order to get nominated you have to have a majority of the delegates. With three people in the race, and the rubio delegates that can go anywhere, then can you get it to less than a majority. Neil the rubio delegates are going to play a pivotal role. Is it your sense, the reason you went for kasich, despite the daunting odds, im looking at the future states, mayor, i dont know, i guess pennsylvania, but as lou dobbs pointed out, technically hes not formally on the ballot. A dispute about that. He could be robbed of a chance to pick up the 71 delegates in that winnertakeall state . The only help forward. If we continue down a path excluding everybody thats not me or doesnt agree with me on everything, john kasich is the only candidate on the field that can beat clinton in the fall. Neil where does he win . He will pick up delegates as we go along. Doesnt have to get to the majority on the first ballot. If no one else gets to a majority, then you have a convention. John kasich is the only candidate that can defeat hillary in the fall. You know, the question lou dobbs here. And im curious because kasich ran on a very liberal agenda. He is promising amnesty within 100 days for illegal immigrants. He is not talking talking about the status quo in perpetuity when it comes to border security. Antitpp. He is completely the opposite of what i would think conservative republican would want or even consider. And youve endorsed him, and i dont know the how that works. By contrary, hes very conservative, fiscal conservative. Reduced spending so can you get to a balanced budget, back to your point. How conservative a fiscal conservative. Is that enough to soothe you . Economy and trade, and for jobs and for trade. And i heard your discussion about that a minute ago. Global trade creates jobs and creates economics. You said you disagree with that. I said the facts support john kasich. The facts are these, mayor, only one out of every five jobs in this country is directly related to trade. Trade itself is not a bad thing, and as you suggest, its good. What is bad is 40 years of consecutive deficits. Trade deficits. What is bad is the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs. What is bad is not a middle class that is growing but that is shrinking and who have had static wages for the past 20 years, mayor. That is the consequence of the policies that youre talking about and so is john kasich. Well, trade has helped the economy and helped people bring better jobs and live better lives. As i said, but it hasnt for the past 20 years, because as i said, trade is good, but this trade, which results in 325 billion a year in deficit to china. This is a country that has significant imbalances and the middle class in this country, working men and women and their families are paying a price for it. Both parties paying the absurd policy indifferent to the results . I cant believe im in a debate on trade with the great lou dobbs. But the fact will bear that out. Trying to keep the facts straight. Economic prosperity happens as a result of trade. Amen. Because you create highvalue jobs that way. On john kasich, i guess what im saying is john kasich as a candidate of inclusion, and optimism and opening up the doors as opposed to narrowing the partys base is the one candidate that could beat Hillary Clinton. Mr. Mayor, can you this, just listening to you, you parroted some of the stuff i said about a contested convention, but lets be clear here, make this a reality. Were talking about the tet offensive here. Were talking about pirates fighting each other. This is one nasty, nasty fight to theyre going to be killing each other in cleveland. You establishment guys are ready to go there . Im not an establishment guy, but i think we have to go there. Thats what a convention has to do. The convention has to sort this one out. The primaries are not going to give us a candidate to beat clinton in the fall. Heres the thing. You are thwarting the will, its kennedy, by the way, nice to talk to you. You are thwarting the will of voters in this country. If donald trump is not your guy. If this is a person you cannot support. If this is a person that offends the foundation of your very sensibilities, thats one thing. Im sorry, but every candidate is beatable, even donald trump, and the people that run against him have not figured out a way to beat him, and i think going to a convention and having some sort of a contested enterprise is so condescending, so offensive, and i dont necessarily have a problem with it because im not a party person, but for people who have been loyal republicans, they are going to be so upset, theyll leave their party for good. And i guess in a sense thats great because maybe you will make the next Ronald Reagan who will say, you know, i didnt leave my party, my party left me, and thats essentially what youre doing. So what you said and what donald trump said is somehow the delegate, the candidate that gets the minority of the votes is entitled to the nomination, thats not true. The convention, as all things, are majority rules. Someone has to get a majority of the delegates in order to get the nomination. The tyranny of the majority. A strong minority doesnt mean you should get the nomination. Neil mayor, point taken, 1237 is what you need. Its half plus one. You get there, its a moot point. If you dont, obviously, to the mayors point, its not. Were waiting the official results, because with virtually all of them in, we cant tell. So were using calculators, taking off our socks, counting our toes, fingers, anything we can to make it official, but we cant do it so we didnt want to give you a mistaken number. Theyre separated by a little more than not even 4,000 votes in this state. In the end, its more for pride than anything else at this stage because cruz has been shutout big time and the gap between he and donald trump has been widened to 225 delegates from a 99 delegate gap going into the night. Much more after this. Hundreds of crash simulations. Thousands of hours of painstaking craftsmanship. And an infinite reserve of patience. To create a vehicle that looks, drives and thinks like nothing else on the road. The allnew glc. The suv the world has been waiting for. Starting at 38,950. Then your eyes may see it, differently. Ave allergies. Only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eye. No other nasal allergy spray can say that. Complete allergy relief or incomplete. Let your eyes decide. Flonase changes everything. Neil all right, looking at missouri now, this is the percentage of the expected vote, but its a little around 80 . 86 , gary, ralph, of the precincts. 86 of the precincts. There is an anominee, the two numbers will eventually meet. Bottom line why we dont have an official count from the statement its going to be a moot point here because it might shift a dozen or so delegates around here, on an evening where ted cruz has just seen his relatively close gap with donald trump go from 99 delegates to north of now 230. Well, 225, i should say. Anyones guess. Im sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. The 619 delegates does that include the 52 delegates, 12 at large . Neil no. Not inclusive of missouri or all the states, just the ones we could nail down. Now 100 some odd 60 . How in control are the candidates the ones who drop out of delegates. Neil thats why we asked marco rubio, what happened to his . I understand that. Does ted cruz get on the phone with marco rubio tomorrow and say hey, dude, throw me your delegates because youll give me a better mathematical i dont know what the rules are. He did say im suspending my campaign. That allows them when they use that language, that allows them to maintain control of the delegates because theyre not technically out of the race. Neil i want to bring in jo ling kent into this. Get a read of the exit polls what shes seeing. Reporter want to look at missouri right now. Show you whats happening. Donald trump doing pretty well, but ted cruz taking the late deciders as we go into this race that has yet to be called, 48 going for cruz. Thats more than double what you see for donald trump in missouri among republicans. You know traditionally doing well in the categories that they do well in. Donald trump doing well with those who want change. 47 who say they want a quality of change in the candidates are going for trump. 37 for cruz. Cruz, as expected, doing well among the very conservative. Among evangelicals as well. But we also want to show you a headtohead comparison on commander in chief between donald trump and ted cruz and actually the rest of the candidates here. Trumps 47 considered to be the best commander in chief in the gop primary race. Also better commander in chief, Hillary Clinton 53 to Bernie Sanders 44 . As for Bernie Sanders himself what he wins in, hes the candidate considered the most inspiring for missouri democratic voters. You see here sanders does better inspiring the future of our country, 53 . So Interesting Data to comb through as we wait for the race to be called. Neil . Neil jo ling, thank you very much. Another big winner tonight is Hillary Clinton on the democratic side. And the miami beach mayor phil levine know it, endorsing Hillary Clinton. Thank you, and thank you for your patience here. Hillary clinton considered her nomination to lose. Do you see any trajectory that could take it from her on the part of Bernie Sanders . No, i dont. I believe the math is the math, and secretary clinton is going to get the nomination for president. Neil, its going to be very historic. The one thing people dont talk about is the fact shes lining up to be the first female candidate for president of the United States of america. And this is right around the corner. Neil i have another, but the first nominee, you are right about that. Let me ask you about the superdelegate versus delegate situation. She has a Comfortable Lead with conventional delegates and blows up with super delegates, is the super delegate thing even fair . In states like new hampshire, where senator sanders won by 20 points, they split the delegates thanks to the super delegates, is that right . We have to remember her pledge delegates at a thousand after tonight. You are absolutely right. And as far as super delegates, of course sanders has some, clinton has some. Neil she has a lot more. He has 27. Yeah. But they can change their mind. These people are not necessarily have to go. They can go either way based on how