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FBC Lou Dobbs Tonight April 14, 2017

Quote weve got a powerful Nuclear Deterrent already in on our hands, and we certainly will not keep our arms crossed in the face of a u. S. Preemptive strike. North korea is the only country to cry out Nuclear Tests since 1998. Pakistan conducting two tests in 1998, india one in 1998, china one in 1996, france in 96 as well. Chinas foreign minister responding to the provocations by urging both the United States and north korea to, quote, refrain from inflammatory or threatening statements. Apparently, the word didnt get coto pyongyang, and the United States is responding with a show of force. The powerful Aircraft Carrier Carl Vinson Strike group is rushing to get on station in the sea of japan off the korean peninsula. It is scheduled to arrive in that region around april 24th. Vice president mike pence also scheduled to be in seoul, south korea, by tomorrow rather, sunday to kick off a tenday trip to asiapacific countries. This has been a busy week for the Trump Administration, its officials traveling all over the world. Its confronted Global Threats not just from north korea, but also syria, russia, iran and the Islamic State. The pentagon today releasing video of the socalledc moab bb that it dropped on Islamic State tunnels in eastern afghanistan. The afghan officials now are saying between 36 and 70 Islamic State terrorists were present at the time of the strike. It had a blast radius of one mile, and according to the top u. S. Military commander in the, in afghanistan, the decision to drop the largest bomb ever deployed in combat came from Decision Makers on the ground in the theater, not washington. We had persistent surveillance over the area before, during and after the operation, and now we have afghan and u. S. Forces on the site and see no evidence of civilian casualties, nor have there been any be reports of civilian casualties. Joining us tonight to discuss what the United States should do if north korea were to conduct a sixth nuclear test this weekend, fox news military analyst general jack keane. General, good to have you with us. Lets start with that bomb, the moab, the Massive Ordnance Air blast bomb called the mother of all bombs. Its impact is extraordinary. Never used before, and it looks like its the choice to use it now was the perfect time and the perfect place. Yeah, its a nasty bomb, lou. Obviously, it has a tremendous blast effect, but its got incendiary fuel as well, and that goes into these caves and tunnels. Its a fiery, devastating death for those people who are in it, to be sure. We havent used this bomb, obviously. We have the technology to support it. Theres another bomb that we have as well, its a deep penetrator that goes down to get secret sites that are 200 feet or whatever. Its classified how far that bomb goes. This is advanced technology that other countries truly do not have. And this not only, of course, devastating to the Islamic State, and i would think would put pakistan on notice as well that refuge is no longer going to be permitted. Thats an inference on my part. Your thoughts. Yeah. Well, thats part of it, to be sure. What this is, this was an isis safe haven. And weve got to go after safe havens. The biggest mistake of 9 11 was not taking down the safe haiive in afghanistan. By the way, for our viewers to understand, not too far from this location is where usama bin laden and his thugs were. We let that stay, and we got 9 11. So when we find safe havens like this, weve got to go after it. This is isis, its called the coreson group core zahn group, they travel freely back and forth from pakistan to afghanistan. Some of them are former pakistan taliban, now longing to isis. So this is we had good intelligence, its a good target. And nicholson did not want afghan infantry having to go in there. They tried it once, took casualties, and this was a much better answer than that. So his message was to destroy isis. Other people certainly seeing weight of military power by the United States get other messages from it, to be sure. Lou the rhetoric, however, from north korea rising. It is more bellicose, if anything, more threatening. How is there a red line here . If kimc un is to set off a sixth nuclear test, are there to be repercussions . What will occur . Therell be no military repercussions for that. Thatll be number six. Weve endured five before that. Lou right. A lot of the language, i think, is leading up to him doing Something Like that. The Aircraft Carrier and the strike force thats there, its largely there really to reassure our allies, the South Koreans and the japanese be, that we do have their back. Vice president pence going there for the same reason. Theres political instability in south korea. Were a little worried about it. We had a president this who was corrupt but strong on north korea and strong on defense. Were likely to get another president thats, hopefully, less corrupt, but we believe is not going to be as strong on defense and not as strong on north korea. So part of this is strengthening the spine of the South Koreans as well. Lou and as we go into this weekend, china issuing a warning to both north korea, it seemed, and the United States, suggesting that any party that permits this to spiral out of control that is, the threats, the escalating threats and the rhetoric would have a historical responsibility. A clear warning the both countries, but at the same time it was not a specific warning to north korea, nor is there the focus on constraining north korea that im sure the president would have liked to have seen. Well, you know, china may play a responsible role here for the first time. As you know, weve had three president s who have tried to Leverage China to coerce the North Koreans to denuclearize. All of that failed. But on wednesday night president xi called our president , spoke for an hour it takes a little time going through interpreters and he told our president as a followup to the maralago bilateral discussions they had something that was pretty stunning. He said im willing to move and take some action to help to denuclearize north korea. If that turns into action is and its not just rhetoric, that is a major, major Foreign Policy achievement. And, certainly, that would change the whole security situation in that part of the world. We have to see if that really turns into implementation which will get some results. But that statement alone is something his predecessors havent made. Lou all right. And as you say, now all that has to happen is it be turned to action, and well know in relatively short order, it seems, given the way things are going between north korea and the United States right now. General jack keane, as always, great to have you with us. Thanks. Good talking to you, lou. Lou were coming right back. Much more straight ahead, stay with us. What was the Obama Administration thinking . Caught spying on a former trump adviser. Im very encouraged by all thnew information thats coming out about some of these unethical practices and potentially illegal practices. Lou we take up the deep state with randy evans and fred barnes. They join me here next. And lansing, michigan, rescinding its sanctuary cities status after just nine days. Well take up the monumental decision with the citys mayor. Were coming right back, stay with us. You totanobodys hurt, new car. But there will still be pain. 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In march congresswoman jackie speier, in april Judicial Watch arguing the democrats remarks raised the same concerns that forced House Intel Committee chairman devin nunes to recuse himself from leading the committees investigation into russia and the Obama Administrations spy scandal. The former trump adviser who was spied on by obamaera intelligence agencies is now slamming what he calls the false allegations against him. Carter page appearing on the Oreilly Factor last night. There he denied allegations of Improper Communications with russian officials. Im very encouraged that all of the lies that have been a drag on this administration are finally coming out into the open. So many people have lied against me with, from the clinton campaign, many of their surrogates. Lets see what actually comes out. Lou and joining me now to discuss the obama spy scandal, the deep state and much more, the executive editor of the weekly standard, Fox News Contributor or fred barnes, and rnc or national committeeman, former chairman of the Republican Lawyers Association randy evans. Good to have you both with us. Thank you. Fred, lets start with this, more vindication for President Trump as we have carter page saying false evidence allowed a warrant to permit investigators to go after him. Your thoughts. Well, theyre going after carter page, but i think youre suggesting the real target was trump. You know, its been reported, lou, that they first went to the Foreign Intelligence Survey group, fisa, where the judges ar to get them, to get surveillance on trump himself. But they tured it down, and their second guy was carter page. Hes kind of a slippery character, but he does talk to the russians a lot, so they could make the case that he was somehow helping the russians, and now they have the surveillance lou the technique is called, by the way, for the audiences benefit, its called reverse targeting. Find someone near your actual target and follow him from fisa. Which, by the way, randy, apparently fisa, that court doesnt often say no to anybody. I mean, i thought theyre supposed to have this highfalutin standard. You remember james comey talking about paperwork deep as his first, which was an interesting metric. They always give it, apparently. But not in this case. Well, they do. Well, its typically a matter of routine with the fisa court because, generally speaking, if the intelligence agencies say they need the information, the assumption is they probably do. What weve seen here though is such a dramatic turn around. I just want you to remember a few months ago, lou, when all of the democrats and the former president just expressed shock that donald trump would even suggest the possibility that his administration was, in fact, spying on a political opposition party. Now what were seeing is day after day how broad that investigation, how broad that spying on political opposition, in fact, went. Lou yeah. The very idea that the Obama Administration in any form would protest after we find out that they widened the dissemination of raw intelligence, that they were, you know, they might as well have camped outside the fisa court as many times as they were there seeking warrants for surveillance. We also see Judicial Watch calling for an iestigation into schiff andc spear, both me remarks that cop firmed the confirmed the leaked transcripts. I mean, thats quite a i mean, theres not going to be much left of the ranking members of that committee at this rate. [laughter] well, it was pretty obvious, it was pretty obvious that they knew something was up when we suddenly saw adam schiff running from cameras rather than running to cameras. [laughter] i knew then that the wheel had turned. It has turned. And, look, the media doesnt want to cover this. They really ignored it as much as theyre been able to which is, actually, a lot. But it is building, and i dont think itll stop. I mean, carter page is not a major figure. I dont think he ever talked to trump when he was a Foreign Policy adviser. But, you know, the idea was he was just the beginning. Lou yeah. Well, the major figures in, you know, whether it was watergate or whatever it may be werent well, werent household names until they became household names either. [laughter] thats true. Lou lets talk about the influence right now in the white house. Quite a dynamic. Jared, ivanka, bannon, gary cohn. I mean, tremendous pressures are building here. Your thoughts, randy, on whats happening within the white house. Well, most of the folks at the white house are really good friends of mine, but i think the white house is starting to settle into a definitional phase; that is, where we lou wait a minute, i want to write that down. Definitional definitional phase. [laughter] lou all hells about to break loose, personally, but you go ahead. No. I think well, you and i talked about this a couple months ago which is Donald Trumps going to govern with a meritocracy. You deliver, you get heard, you get your policies promote i think were starting to see that steadily emerge. Gary cohns done a great job of putting a team together, hes got some real professionals behind him. Its not surprising that he gets the president s ear a little more than, say, those who have yet to fill out their agencies and departments. And, lou, remember who introduced gary cohn to donald trump, Jared Kushner be, the soninlaw. Lou well, i love what randy just said, you know, youve got to give him credit for having an organized team sure. Lou i remind everybody, the idea for the Trump Administration was that they would disorganization is and disrupt disorganize and disrupt and would get moving. Meanwhile, were giving high points here suddenly, randy, to a fellow who was as establishment and leftwing as anybody in the white house. I mean, give me a break. Im not giving him high points. What im saying is those who put together their teams and influence policy so as to disrupt, so as to build a consensus towards tax cuts, theyre going to get there first. Lou, he came in lou you mean the tax cuts that steve bannon and Steven Miller had introduced as a principal idea for the candidate which he, by the way himself, had sought, but now gary cohn gets credit for all of that, fred . No, no. Lou i mean, this doesnt seem fair. Hes going to change all that. You remember what trump campaigned on, and it was a plan drafted by steve moore and larry kudlow, and it was cutting the business tax down to 20 or low down from 35 , repatriating all that money lou ic remember all of that. I dont think were going to see that in the plan. Remember, gary cohns the guy that had a trial balloon recently in favor of a carbon tax. Lou im not sure it was a trial balloon other than maybe a perfect conviction on his part i hope its a trial balloon. Im giving him th

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