100 soldiers, firing lasted for more than an hour, more than 5,000 rounds fired, grenades as well, the siege lasted more than 7 howrntio hours. By end of day, two suspected terrorists were dead, a lot of speculation over whether one could be ring leader, well wait for dna, 5 Police Wounded one Police Dog Killed in the fight today. Real concerns now that we could see more such raids, acrosses country, there have been 100,000 police mobilized, their goal is to put down any terrorist cell before they can attack, that is what they did today. We could see more urban fighting across france. France. Reporter thank you, steve harrigan. Charles a gunfire blasting in paris suburb this morning, the suspected architect of fridays terror attack is believed to have been in the apartment 5 others, one of the 17s that i suspects. Remains at large, joining me now shawn henry, former fbi executive director, steven yates, and steve rogers. Let me go to you steve, what do you make of what happening in france . You see, statement there has been statement changes but they are small and large . They are significant, we have done is see a change from Law Enforcement action it fighting enemy combatant that gunfire you heard, was not a file of field of battle, it on city streets. The fire is that gunfire would be heard here in u. S. If we do not take act against these terrorists. Charles steve your boss, dick cheney, it feels like American Public is coming to notion that sometimes you must take a hawkish stance issue now the people and is the citizens of france as well. There are a number of things playing out that are more than a decade ago, there is a theory you need to take the fight to them overseas, it would seem that french people are learning a little bit of this. A wakeup call for us here in the United States there is also a notion of really taking iriusly you have to seriously you have to pro mil profile and monitor people, who fit a certain target set if you keep your citizens safe. We feel a certain way about this is Civil Liberties but when it comes to people coming in we need to screen them, and scale them. Charles what do you think. They say they believe they caught the mastermind, they believe, there are strines attached, this person was born in europe but still had this vengeance. If they killed the mastermind, that does not pit an end to this threat, and risk too the people of france, and elsewhere in western europe, even here. There are a lot of tentacles, others that will step up. Weve seen this this al qaeda in past with killing of leadership overseas, that helped to keep them off our shores here, i am certain but there has been a reconstruction. People need to understand that threat is not going away any time soon, isis said they will continue to infiltrate western europe, they will put foreign fighters on land there. They are there now, i am certain, were looking in u. S. , fbi and others to try to disrupt any potential attacks similar to what in paris. You mention that we have had a lot of success in killing leaders, and new person pops up all of the time, lets talk about the organization, some say that isis could be in some form of retreat mode right now, syrian city of raqqa has been getting rocketed with french and russian warplanes, conducting nonstop airstrikes, terror group losing city of san jar, to sinjar and iraq. Then alasad, he is turned back a one year siege on aleppo. It feels like these dominoes are falling at same time, the big question, is, is isis in some form of retreat, if that is the case, is now the time to go in for the kill . I dont think they are in a retreat, they have the entire mideast, when the president said they have isis contain, he has got it wrong, they have us contained. Putin is going in it take care of business, and french, but for us to have a solid chance we have to lead. Charles everyone acknowledges that america must play a role, if that is the case, i dont think that this administration has the will to do that, but if it is would russia and france move aside and let us dictate terms, and also, we know that it would involve some sort of troops on the ground, that is where we run into trouble from Public Relations aspect in america. There is no doubt, that there is noel in this administration to take the fight to this enemy overseas, and a great reluctance to part of that administration to put boots on ground, but there no theory in victory of warfare that comes from the air alone, dealing with a determined enemy like this this is regrettable that the french and russians are hitting dark it targets that weve known about for a year. We have really let our allies down, it will take a lot to regroup, this is a moment where pressure should be put on defeating isis headquarters, but i think all other prior comes right, isis is way bigger than this narrow geography. With a demonstration affect of hitting the at their core helps. Charles a grand bargain with russia, United States, europe, france, and perhaps alasad and iran . Would it take the ultimate configuration of frenemies to put them away for good . This has to be a globalco leg, have you open global coalition. That will require a broad coming together of various woarg organizations to make it right. Charles amazing. To consider that assad would be occurred one of the good guys. Just moments before the show, Police Authority in honduras, detained 5 Syrian National trying to reach United States using stolen greek passports, believe that one of the paris attackers slipped into europe, registered in greece. But i have to tell you, there is no sign of any links to last weeks attack in paris otherwise, but this is one thing that bothers a lot of people. We started the show talking about potential mastermind, they and a lot of these instances, whether it was tennessee or in this case in belgium, they are born, raised in west, somehow they come to hate the west. I think that someone happens in the home ethen later in life. I want to ask uhow does this happen. How can somewhere born in the wes western country that took their family in, fed them, nurtured them, how could they turn to the country so viciously. You talk about radicalization, they are not happy, they are charles one second, ill let you finish, but, you leave your country, with just clothes on your back, you go somewhere you get welfare benefit, medical benefits, you actually get a job, do you well, your kids go to college. Where are they being disenfranchised . I have seen with radicalization here, certainly domestically, i have not been in syria. Here, these are people who are having difficulty somewhere issue they are reaching out, not unlike the way that street gangs in this country in United States have radicalized people and brought them in they are look for something to connect with. They want to feel like they are part of a larger whole, a organization, and that is part of them looking out for another group that will help make them feel like they belong. Charles i get that crips and bloods, no father, in the home, but, you take this tsarnaevs. Their mother, behavior she exhibited during the court proceedings, and afterwards this someone who was here, took hundreds of dollars worth of welfare, and recented this nation to point she raised people that hated us enough to commit these atrocities. Trish that is right, that one of reason that we have to look at, i agree there is no such thing as self ratification radicalization, they either travel to the troubled areas or they come back or they are approached online. Or by people in their own community, there is something that is toxic about this, islamist ideology that is know mating this violence, it getting that is animating this violent right now, it is getting people to do more horrific things. I do not have answer to, that on refugee issue i could share this, i would rather be safe than sorry, not that were not being commission at. Charles i know that, i am saying that when weve shown compassion. As concerned as we are with embedded terrorists, with these refugees, there are people who are already here, born, raised here, with all benefits of being american citizens lived a great life, still, that nugget that kernel of hate blooms into carnage. Charles honduras detains 5 syrian that was headed to u. S. With fake pass are on thes. Pass part ofs, president obama before the show vows to veto it, well be right back. Jeb bush leadership means youve got to be all in. Its not about yappin. Its not about talking. Its about doing. I know how to do this because i was privileged to serve in florida for eight years. And we turned the systems upside down that werent working. 1. 3 million new jobs were created. We cut taxes every year. Income rose in peoples pockets. People were lifted out of poverty. Children started to learn. As president of the United States, i pledge to you that i will solve problems. 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Charles congress is moving quickly to respond to the terrorist attack. Breaking news, right before the show, president obama he vows to veto a bill, main author of bill, is joining me now, representative hudson. President obama feeling the pressure, comes out to say he will veto the bill, this is also a form of intimidation, your thoughts . Disappointing. To tell you the truth, i cant think of a single bill that we brought to house floor that president has not issued a veto threat on. My hope that if we get reasonable democrat senators who have expressed concern, maybe president will reconsider. Charles you had them express concern, wellknown democrats like feinstein talking about your lack rit sig situation with respect to foreign policy, how do you think you stand right now. Im not sure were at a vetoproof point right now, i have worked hard with democrats this week. We got really close, but we dont have a commitment from them, the words come down from nancy pelosi they are not voting with us. I have a lot of individual democrats who told me they are with us, my hope is we could get a number of democracies that hear same from their constituents that i hear from my folks at home, that American People would like to stop this process until we are comfortable with vetting. Charles to our point, the polls showing a amazing swing. Majority of americans are saying what your constituents are saying, this not the right time, they dont feel safe, only smart in their mind to hold there back, the question is, we have seen a lot of democrats lose their career on backing things like obamacare, maybe that where you get them, do you give up your career for Something Like this . Tomorrow saying, you support the status quo, i hate to have to go home and explain why i support the status quo. Charles they are saying they are vetted through certain agencies like fbi, department of defense, biometric fingerprinting and interviews, what should be added to that, that wed feel safer at a nation. This is not Richard Hudson saying there is a problem, the fbi said have is a problem president obamas own director of Homeland Security said there is a problem. We cannot do background checks on these folks, you talk to your former employees, and neighbors, but you cant go to syria and knock on the door when the whole block has been blown up. The problem is, as fbi director said, we cannot vet these folks properly, and that is why there is a red flag, it not me saying it but the president s own administration. Charles lets hope this is one time that president puts 308 politics, side and listens to the voice of the American Public, they are being loud and clear. Thank you, i would tell your listener, light up the white house switchboard let the president know where you stand on this. 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Call or visit cancercenter. Com to learn more about precision Cancer Treatment. Can a a subconscious. Mind . A knack for predicting the future. Reflexes faster than the speed of thought. Can a business have a spirit . Can a business have a soul . Can a business be. Alive . Charles you have been asking for it a new folk news poll fox news poll, donald trump takes lead of g. O. P. Race in New Hampshire marco rubio receives 13 , just above ted cruz, 11 , ben carson did you not break double digits he ties jeb bush with 9 followed by john kasich. And chris christie, this is where he makes a stan at 6 , 3 carly fiorina, and rand paul, back there, then in meantime lindsey graham, mike huckabee, and ric santorum 1 . If general election was held today who would win . Marco rubio is choice polling ahead of Hillary Clinton by 7 points. Jeb bush in second, and although trump is in a favorite among g. O. P. Voters he performs worse of against Hillary Clinton, when voters were asked how things are going in country today, 58 are unhappy with the way things are going, that is a reflect of probe robs al president obamas overall rating, joining me now tammy bruce. And darren shaw. The polls, everyone has been waiting for this poll after paris, and last debate. What of most interesting aspect from your point of view . Couple things, to note, first, you hipped at before the hinted at before the break, ben carson is kind of nowhere to be seen, he is with the pack, in National Poll and iowa poll he is at head. Either with trump or some others. Here, he actually trailed jeb bush, he trailed ted cruz, you know and marco rubio. And that is a change in the race. Other point i observe is that Donald Trumps support, how certain are you to vote for candidate you prefer. Donald trumpa only one whose supporters over 50 likely to say, they have made up their minds, and ben carson supporters are most likely to say, they might change their mind. Trumps supporters, are saying they are not going anywhere. Charles rub rubio is getting traction that media said, they said he won but we did not see that in polling. Look, this is a fascinating poll, in that you have as your other guest noted number of people who decided that they are with their candidate, 55 said that they could change their mind. That shows you fluidity of this field, i think that is significant. Other thing, also here, New Hampshire is never been real strong for carson, iowa is his strong suit, nationally they are name recognition polls, i think it is way too soon to think that carson has been impacted in rest of polling other than mr. Trump. With 5 margin of error almost everyone else is tied. Have you everyone in that dynamic, it could go anywhere. Whoever your favorite is, no one has been knocked out of this. What do you make of the once again, with the general election, we continue to see time after time, where Hillary Clinton fares bet against donald trump. What is that about . I think as you pointed out rubio is strongest against Hillary Clinton, you could look at an honesty phenomenon, republicans are polling well against Hillary Clinton, and, marco rubio and ben carson, he looks strong against hillary, it may be that those candidates with honesty as a cornerstone of their campaign do well with matched up against Hillary Clinton, trump, maybe because he is a businessman or people assume he cut corners, he does not score well, maybe big republican advantage, trump is one candidate who does not enjoy that. Charles hard to believe that anyone would trail Hillary Clinton in honesty category. Just saying, thank you very much. Well, too cool for school . Commander in chief . 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