Are good. Capitalism starve the poor . And america poor people struggle. Some of our politicians are confused. Socialism, capitalism, the embargo lessons from cuba. Thats our show tonight. And now, john stossel. John in America Today socialism is hot. These tshirts with a picture of a popular and trendy young people and recently in cuba our president had no problem with posing with his hand on his heart right in front of a giant mural depict in j. The president did at least criticize some of cuban socialist practice. It should be easier to business in cuba. The internet should be available so cubans can connect to the wider world. John those things are chewing a whole bunch of other things which need to change their cubans hope to have the kind of fugitive people deserve. Socialism in cuba has wrecked lives are for 55 years when the president criticized cuba castro pushed back and said americans suffer because we dont enjoy the benefits of socialism and president obama kind of agreed. In his view making sure everybody is getting a decent education or health care has basic security in old age and those are human rights as well. I first of all do not disagree with him. John so socialism is good . Listening to some democrats planned for america, Free Education, its clear that many are quite comfortable as socialist people who have lived under socialism or communism rarely feel that way. Cuban exiles, americans property was stolen by castro are the most vehement in their hatred of socialism and they are furious that obama even went to cuba. We feel disgusted. We feel betrayed. Its the end its the liberal press. John this woman in florida got upset when she saw these family pictures of obama and rob castro. He is a murderer. I feel awful. John i understand how she feels but i dont fully understand the opposition to lifting the embargo. We have tried to cut them off, to change their government for 55 years and it hasnt worked. I get that they hate castro but shouldnt our policy be something that works . I thought everyone could shine a light on whats going on and fox business anchor david esmond spent years covering it for the wall street journal so whats going on . Where so many cuban exiles, not the majority i just saw, opposed to lifting the embargo . Partly because they have so many dimly histories that have been impacted terribly in ways as the woman just said that go to the back of some of them have been murdered by this cuban government. Raul himself was an executioner executioner. You sitake businesspeople out back and blow their brains out, personally he did that so when you have this Family Connection to a totalitarian regime like cuba you tend to put the emotions before the head. Having said that i understand your sympathy with wanting to get rid of the embargo. Hasnt gotten rid of castro. We have added are almost six years in the castros are still in power there. On the other hand businesses have been in cuba for decades as well. There are a lot of Spanish Companies and Canadian Companies that do business and they have had almost zero impact on improving the lives of the cuban people. They definitely have zero impact in getting rid of the congress government. John theres not a complete embargo right now, lets clarify that theres hardly any embargo because they trade with europe and spain especially latin america canada, asia. Its only the United States yet the trade has been nice and good for some people, some private citizens who have had better lights . There and to deprive its citizens. Everybodys a citizen of the government. Everybodys essentially owned by the government of cuba. You have to have all of your food and meals provided by these ration cards. Its illegal to fish in cuba because all of the fish are supposedly on by the cuban government so in a Foreign Company goes to cuba to do business they have to pay the government. They can pay the workers themselves. They pay the government and the government pays the workers 20 a month. Thats the cuban workers earn so the cuban workers are screwed, the companies are screwed because they have to pay regular salaries for the cuban workers. The only people the benefit from the Foreign Companies in cuba is the government itself and the people who work for the government to. John i would argue that they may be even worse off without those jobs. You after much negotiation went there. It took me about 10 years. Finally i was led in. They knew i wasnt happy about fidel castro and i had written a lot of negative articles about him but when the soviet union died in the early 1990s and all of the money the cuban was getting become a 60 of the gdp tried up overnight virtually they were so desperate that they let me in for a couple of weeks. John for people for pretty willing to speak up against the state . They were that point because they believe like the soviet union cubas communist government would die which it didnt. That shocked them but at that brief there was a window for a year and a half where they believe that what happened in the soviet union and eastern unit what happened in cuba. John the theory behind the embargo is the economic pressure will inspire people to vote for and heres senator ted cruz. Regime is trickling president obama stepped in to throw an economic lifeline and i think that is a serious danger to our National Security. John danger to National Security . I just dont get that. Cuba is not a threat to our National Security. For one thing they werent involved in Drug Trafficking is a lot of governments are. But they also worked funding terrorist organizations all over latin america including the farc and the m. 19 in columbia. Its ironic the president said maybe we could get cubas help in the Peace Process in columbia when in fact the cuban government was supporting the terrorists that were trying to overthrow democracy in columbia so they are funding terrorists and they have funded terrorists in the United States as well including the puerto rican terrorists who have blown up bombs and kill people in the United States. John theres no evidence the terrorism we worry about now is being supported by cuba . They have close relations with iran and iran is involved with hezbollah and hezbollah is a terrorist organization so i would say they are connected with the terrace. You go to havana and a watering hole for terrorists from all over the world. When the ira was alive they were there in the plo was involved and have their operations there and the sandinistas controlled nicaragua. I would say theres a connection with terrorists. John back to the embargo. Most of the congress did not support enlisting it and im not fully understanding their logic and lets talk to one of them. Albio serious this do you want to keep this embargo . Is going to work this ear next year . Well, i am all for negotiating. I will negotiate the embargo put the cuban people have to give something in return. John will get trade. What are the people get in queue but . John they benefit from mutual trade. 85 of the economy is the military. If you go into business in cuba you have to do is this what the government. The government gives you 20 a month. Thats not the kind of cube i want to. John how old were you when you came here . I was 11 years old. John came with your parents . I still remember when they came into my house and when we got our visas they came back to make sure everything in the house that they took inventory was there. We couldnt give it away or sell it. Everything belong to the government. If you have anything missing i remember when they searched my house because they accuse my father of porting merchandise. John i guess that you hate them and you dont want them to get more money from trade but how do you apply arguments like this from senator rand paul . We trade with china, we. With vietnam and the. Trade with laos yet we dont trade with cuba. I think trade might let things up and also helped to topple the castros. All those countries, i dont want a system for cuba. I dont want a system where you cant express yourself. I dont want to cuba where you cant have elections. We are perpetuating a system similar to what is in cuba now. John so we shouldnt trade with the soviet union of our china either . I do not agree with trading with cuba for the sake of trading. The history of the embargo who, why not use it . We are not going to force something from the cuban government. John there was a time in the early 90s when they considered going to chinese the cuban government. They decided not to and china as flowing a larger private economy. You can uncertain property. You cannot do that in cuba and to your point congressman if there was a way of negotiating a deal where you would force the government to allow companies u. S. Companies dealing there to deal directly with the people said the government would pay the people, i would be more open to any embargo then. John do you agree the people who saved obama should not have gone to cuba . He is the president of the United States. He made the decision. I didnt agree with it. I believe the optics were there. Its a typical macho cuba thing to show Central America north and south america we are it. But he is the president he makes the decisions. We have to abide by it. John donald trump agrees with your opinion . I dont agree with donald trump. Lets keep that straight. He is a snake oil salesman. He says anything to get a reaction. Should he have gone . In my view i dont think he should have gone but i certainly dont agree with donald trump. John me neither. As a research this show i watch old newsreel senate was struck by how the press of the time glorified cuba before communism. It was not long ago the cuba was a different kind of country. The hotels the mecca tourist who plot from around the world and pleasure seekers that contributed millions to the islands economy and then castro came. The sounds of joy were submerged by the sounds of shooting. Castro convinced the cuban people he was their liberator and they freely gave him the reins of government or freehand when he announced he was a marxist. John i think today a lot of people would say a marxist, so what but im struck by what they say about the old regime. It wasnt a free market regime. He was corrupt. Absolutely. When he left cuba he went to the treasury and stole 300 million. The first wall ever built in madrid was built with batista money. John this is what leads to communist revolutions. Castro got in on a lie with the cuban people. He declared himself a marxist. After he was there and then he went to ops and theres a system we have today. Sad thats an important point because it not only happened in cuba but happened in nicaragua this sandinistas. The cubans Business People believed originally and fidel castro who at first said he was anticommunist and it wasnt until year or so after the revolution he announced to us a marxist and the same with this sandinistas. People walk by socialism if you give it to them. You have to candy coated. John thank you congressman sires. Adrina segment follow me on twitter at john stossel and use the hashtag give me liberty or like my Facebook Page so you can post on my wall. We want to know what you think. Coming up the president ial candidate who once went out of his way to praise communist regimes. No one denies that they are Building Health clinics. Health care nicaragua is obsolete. 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They and the kids to buy this tshirt, there is, not realized that che described himself as a cold killing machine that he was was also a racist banning western music. Just because che with you doesnt mean he is a good guy. I once pointed that out on the tv show and i was surprised when on the web the video was watch more than 3 million times. Lots of them were watched by people in latin america. They understand the evil done by comments like che or maybe its because it just was so entertaining. This michael lind hand of the daily beast. You have now done research that shows one president ial candidate has gone out of his way. Praises for seems like this. Who people say about Bernie Sanders is Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist which you know when somebody says that to me i will say look i dont support democratic socialist. Lived in a country with democratic socialism for several years. Sweden. I didnt have to wait in bread lines are or anything but i started looking into his comments when he was the mayor of burlington. He was this guy who write that doesnt like to speak about his Foreign Policy. When he was the mayor of arlington and he spoke about Foreign Policy at an airport and it mostly on issues of nicaragua and cuba. John tell us what bernie said about nicaragua and still says that cuba. Health care nicaragua is not free. Mortality has been greatly reduced. John paradise. Yeah, sounds great. I have long said that im going to name them Michael Moynihan casts. If you have a totalitarian ideology give People Free Health Care and you just have to work until the clinic. It doesnt have the patience in the dominicans curdled issues by saying they have free health care, they have Free Education they have letters a rates that are high. That for some reason is okay. Why for some reason the swedes and the danes and the norwegians managed to have socialized medicine and you can actually both for opposition parties and say whatever you want without being thrown in jail. I dont understand that quite yet he. John i dont get what he does make that distinction. I guess now he does. He says im talking about denmark denmark but bernie says the communists make things more fair in latin america. Landowners are controlling all the farms. They spread the wealth. For the first time in their lives they have something, nobody denies they are making significant progress. Nobody denies that. In the 70s, came to power in 1979 and they overthrew a terrible dictatorship and they replaced it with another dictatorship. When the nicaraguans were allowed to vote for the first time in a free election in 1989 and 1990 they had a rigged election but the idea that these people love this stuff, he says the people love it. How do we allow this how about we allow them to vote on these things . John didnt they vote or take a back in recently . He did and for some reason Bernie Sanders arent backing the current ortega who opposes abortion is has made peace with the Catholic Church and basically but he has been doing is what he is sized and stolen money from the treasury. John wrote that you wish to some reporter would ask bernie do you believe bread lines are assigned if economic logic in that you were joking but bernie really said this about communism in nicaragua. Sometimes american journalist talk about how bad a country is with people lining up. Thats a good thing. In other countries people dont line up. Theyre rich get the food of the poor starve to death. John so its good that there are lines waiting to get food. In a piece i wrote it left us alone because what he said in response to that is the height of absurdity. Because food is fresh and and when you get your rations you dont get very much that is a positive thing. I dont think you could tell that to the American People running for president in 2016. John could sell it to some. Thank you mike. Coming up another communist idea that Many Americans are possessed about. We also have more wealth and equality than any other major country on earth. John is that true packs its not exactly true and as my next guest says income inequality is good. This is how you say its going to be okay to someone who just lost everything. Every 8 minutes the red cross responds to a disaster and makes this promise. Help us keep it. Dont let dust and allergies get and lifes beautiful moments. With flonase allergy relief, they wont. Most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. Flonase controls six. And six is greater than one. Flonase changes everything. Being hacked and inte