Rounds fired overall from terrorist, and police and s. W. A. T. Teams inside. They are reconstructing the order of ivens there. And events, and Law Enforcement officials saying their main goal today, is to try to end the uncertainty for families who let them know whether or not their loved ones or dead or alive. Based on statements made by the suspect, based on information we received from the suspect, and from hostages and people inside, we believe further loss of life was imminent. Reporter police chief, saying why they decided to breach at 5 00 in the morning, all bodies have been removed from inside of the pulse nightclub, they were taken out overnight, 4 at a time in vans to county medical examiners office, all 49 victims have been identified. The next of kin of 48 of those 49, have been notified. Almost completing the process, many was the victims in 20s and early 30s, when it comes to notifying next of kin a lot of these people have been mothers in past day alone more than 25 orlando mothers receiving final notification their son or daughter, was killed on sunday morning. Charles. Charles thank you. Investigation is underway now, to how and why omar mateen enters the pulse nightclub. We know that fbi had investigated mateen, he declared his allegiance to isis during a 911 call from the club, he made two trips to saudi arabia in twoam 2011 and 2012, fbi drak director comey said that mateen was radicalized on the internet. He claimed family connections to al qaeda, and said he was a member of hezbollah, which is a shia terrorist organization, that is a better enemy of socalled islamic state, isil. He said he hopes that Law Enforcement would raid his apartment and assault his wife and child so he could martyr himself. Charles joining me now. Sheriff paul babeu, and sheriff david clark. Sheriff clark i start with you, you expressed outrage on twitter, perhaps something going on with national fbi and lack of support for local Law Enforcement effort, notion that person was interviewed, two secondive years and given sort of a pass bothers a lot of people. Epic intelligence failure, they are allred flags, i could after 49 americans are slaughtered in the terrorist incident it is not unfair to behind ircritical of our hyper critical of our Intelligence Agency here in United States. In fairness to the fib fbi they are miscast, they are not a Intelligence Agency they are an investigating agency, they went into this thing looking for probable cause that is not what intelligence work, intelligence works on, identify threat, know if they are capabling and know if they are planning an attack, then notify someone well in advance. That is not what the fbi is doing through no fault of theirs, they have to do things that people are not comfortable work like surveilling mosques, that is not to indict all muslims, but you cant stick your head to the sand, out of Political Correctness they are going to happen, i think until we get, i have said it before, probably said on your program, until we get, a true intelligence structure, domestic, of United States, and we start prosecuting these things as acts of war not just criminal actions, well continue to see this stuff, i know you cant predict everything indent, and james comey and fairness to him, i admire that guy, but were not asking him to find a needle in the pay stack, just fine the hehaystack and once that is identified, that is what omar mateen was, with that plec plethora of evidence then we look for the needle. Charles when james comey said, it suggested to me, in may interview, mateen made contradictary statements despite fact he admitted to the threat that he made, that he desire to be a martyr. They fell he was not serious in part because he was the not getting his terror organizations right in july 2014, even though he had sort of Association Still they went to same mosque not enough evidence, what does it take for fbi to red flag someone and follow it through. This is result of little bit ibly correct Law Enforcement policies handed down to federal agencies could like fbi and local law everyone force Law Enforcement. Every officer have you, they could tell you one of the greatest asset a cop has is instinct, before ferguson before the policies came down, Police Officers on the street, fbi agents, any Law Enforcement officer his instinct kicks in that causes him to go thetic tra mile, but today if you go that extra mile you are called a profiler, you are taken to task by the government, you as a Police Officer run to plane problems they run to many problems, they have hindered the ability for Police Officers to do their job. Charles we do have watch lists and monitor people who go abroad in particularly for training. So you have a series of yellow or red flags, still this guy, slipped through the cracks . Yes, look. , i understand that desire for people to blame somebody that makes it, the horrible nature of this attack. Easier to process in a sense it has to be somebodys fault. You know, if we want that discussion, steve is right, talk about Playing Field that law enforcesome allowed to operate in, that is we have to understand, if you want bureau to get on this individual, do their interviews not have within the rules, probable cause to continue and go into from a preliminary to active investigation, then what do you think, we have to give them more leeway, you lose something on privacy and liberty side, this is a trade off. I am tired of people kicking the bureau in the back side, every time Something Like this happens, they are operating within the parameters set by congress, supposedly at the will of the people po to to protect privacy and civil liberties. Charles well take a hard look at our own work, so far, he said they dont think they would do anything differently that does bother American Public, i know Law Enforcement goes beyond the call of duty, but really, maybe we watch to much tv it feels like this is someone who fell in lap, so did last 3 or 4 of terrorist monsters they were on various watch lists, what are these watch lists and why are they not followed up . Sheriff babeu. You can weigh in on that. I can tell you were at war, and were not acting like this. When come appedde commander in chief said no less than 22 times a graver National Security threat than terrorism, is gl so when that threat posture, we take as a nation, looking at isis, and other terrorist organizations, and we have incident like this, local Law Enforcement guys that look like me and sheriff clark and women will be fighting terrorism here. That is not the pro forked pack we should pre preferred path we should be taking, we have should a robust effort not justin teligent but through the military to destroy isis, and destroy cells we know offer great threat and harm to the u. S. , not send 50 soldier to syria then we really want to defeat them as obama said, and send 250 more, lets alike they are serious threats to our interNational Security. And destroy them. Charles the sheriff used a key word that president will not use, were at war, this is not a criminal problem. This is a National Security problem. When you are at war you use every tool available to, including, i know a lot of people get upset but includes nsa surveillance and data mining these are the thins that protect thi this nation, and intelligence sharing from top to bottom is important right down to the street cop. Charles sheriff clark. Since 9 11 it has been see something, Say Something, we know that people are intimidated. Often the criminal does not get arrested then they become target of retribution, how can we be encouraged to see something and Say Something if they fumble the ball . You cant, that is why citizens are afraid to come forward, i am being critical of fbi phoeb but i thin fbi, i think they are miscast. Goal one to preempt an attack, to predict and let a policymaker know, here is the threat, he is capable or she is, or this organization circumstance they are planning an attack. Wouldnonce this guy did what he dtravelled to saudi arabia. The. He owned firearms, time to move in take the firearms, you dont have to arrest him, you put it together, let him know you are on radar screen, once they are on that screen, they could never come off how anyone could say what he did was inconclusive, just blows me away. I go to an airport, they sit there at checkpoint, they are feeling me up, from head to foot, and they are searching through fi belongings to guetta i plane they are searching bu3 belongings just to get on a plane, this guy, spews jihadist rhetoric, and that is inconclusive, but in a airport, i am suspect from the moment i hit that checkpoint, this isas backwards. All right. Thank you so much, appreciate it. You bet. Charles coming up, man with terrorist ties who was investigated by fbi, but still able to purchase guns legally, looking at Second Amendment talk about gun laws and florida in particular, stick around. Homegrown extremism that all of us have been so concerned about for a very long time. Also he was able to obtain the weapons legally, because he did not have a criminal record. Charles president obama, renewing his call for stricture gun laws in United States florida has no restrictions on design or magazine capacity of modern semiautomatic rifles but applicants must submit a background check. The shooter did pass a background check, the question i guess, what would the stricter gun laws have mattered. Katie, you are in florida, i read, conceal and carry allows most people to wear firearms in most places. But guns are barred from school, college campus, courthouse, government building, establishment that several serve alcoa sho alcohol as main purpose. You hit it, all clubgoers, they could not bring a gun into the club to defend themselves, how much stricter are florida gun laws going to be, if you can be on a terror watch list and still walk into the center as omar mateen dthe back round checks are inadequate, considering that fbi interviewed hip twice him twice, and he was still able to get the guns. I agree with katie most aspects of what she said, except about ar15 an assault rifle, i am tired of listen to people from president of United States, and Hillary Clinton, calling thear a the a ar 15 an assault rifle, an assault is an action, not a object. Lets be clear, the ar15 is not any more dangerous than my 12gauge shotgun. An assault weapon is a fully automatic battlefield rifle, what that shooter used was not automatic, he had to pull a trigger every time he shot. I understand to clarify that so average citizen understands. Charles opponents of these types of weapons say they are powerful. The kind of power they provide, why would the average citizen need that to even protect themselves. Goodness, you know, the last time i checked it was still the bill of rights, not bill of needs, but with barack obama it could have changed. It is not a matter of need, we have a right to keep and bear arms, if you want a fully automatic weapon you have to get a class 3 license, that is a restrictive, expectative background check, by the time government issues you a class 3 they know every hair on your head, not many have that. But bottom line, bad guys who want to kill, will get what they want, irregardless of the law. More laws will not stop that guy. Charles i understand that, katie, what about notion of making guns easier for everyone to get, so, if people in that club had were able to protect themselves. Highly doubtful there would be 49 people dead today. That is right. I am not one to describe hypothetical, atthispoint, could it have been better for them . I dont know, you have gun free zoneses for a reason. There seems to be a disconnect with what the federal government becaus does and states are doing. They dont convey that information to state local authorities people like omar mateen, he had a class b security helps as well, not like he was a civilian on street, arming himself with an ar15, and with respect to jan, he used to assault people, i understand maybe misnomer is wrong but that was a weapon used to kill, and as a security guard, you could have a control substance florida in problem and still be an Armed Security guard, you could be a fugitive from justice or not, and not get a concealed weapon. Charles all right, ladies, leave it there. You laid out best rationale where public should be armed. But lets leave it there thank you. Thank you. Charles coming up, radical islam that killed 49 people this weekend, the same person pledges allegiance on isis, is the key to our safety to eliminate isis at its roots . Do we go into places like syria and ste stro destroy them, once and or all . We will debate it next. Its more than a network and the cloud. Its reliable uptime. 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Not as americans but with close allies, some of our arab partners as well. Until we did that, and fully committed to identifying when the enemy is, providing Law Enforcement with ability to do their job, and intelligence gathering to find out who is doing what and why well be in trouble. Charles here is the thing, andrew, a lots of polls people want us to go out and eradicate isis, but you get to minutia. , would you do it, and millennials say no, you have a lot of people remember remembering vietnam, the caliphate aspect would be harder to argue if we anile lated them. Yes, isis is a symbol, that is important, reason that no terrorist swears allegiance to al qaeda any more it has been comprehensively defeated in a couple of places. But, i will say, i think because the basic problem in syria because we didnt arm local proxies early in the syrian civil war, we are left with though Ground Troops who can fight isis. Even though americans want to defeat it and put it to bed, there is really no call noitm for sending u. S. Ground forces on iraq and syria. Charles yet, you know we know carl they, hunkered down there, we know their defacto headquarters is in syria, we know they use christians as targets or human shields, they will continue to operate almost, despite the bombings, until something is done to really force them out. Step one, identify a leader that can lead us through this i believe that is donald trump, you Hillary Clinton is willing to provide f16s to Muslim Brotherhood but does not trust her own citizens, that is problem number wok, problem two, they dont respect us or fear us, we have to give them such a devastating blow they dont want to comeback. Charles what would that look . 30,000 troops . Is it similar to what coa colin powell, you go in crush enemy get out. We crush the enemy once before then they came back and filled power vacuum, we need to commit to longterm occupance to stabilize the region, that is just the way it, 250,000 troops at lyft, airstrikes massive give station, but also, socially, we have to get in the heads of muslim people here in america, 10 that are radicalize, 10 happy to live within our cust customs, 8 0 of people who will go either way, whatever is popular, that is the problem. Care did come out and speak against this that is a start, we ned to get more of that. Charles a stip in right direction, well bring you back. Want to focus on, political aspect, donald trump, Hillary Clinton weighing in giving detailed speeches today. Well talk about what they had to say, and debate, which conditio candidate is best for our National Security, stay tuned. In new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. 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We have to make it harder for people who should not have those weapons of war, that may not stop every shooting or every terrorist attack, but it will stop some and it will save lives, it will protect our first responders. When it comes do radical islamic terrorism, ignorance is not bliss. It is deadly. Total deadly. Joining me now, david moore, and former senator scott brown, you have endorsed donald trump, have you spent more and more time w