And 58 of voters say Hillary Clinton is a corrupt person. David, ill start with you. Pretty good news for Hillary Clinton. The polls show the most part for the last several weeks after several events from the jobs report to the orlando shooting, and not you brexit. She is holding on to a slim lead. Its like a Blood Pressure test. It shows you the trends. Its reassuring that trump is close in this battleground. It shows the trend and its working to some extent for hillary. But trump has lots of time to catch up. She has a 19 lead in women. The independent number you cited is important because he has to attract a bigger winning coalition. You are a democratic strategist. Mark serrano, i know that a lot of republicans are down playing polls. You understand how this works, you understand the importance of polls. I share with the audience the composition of this poll so everyone can judge it the way they want to judge it. Of course. There are obviously a few more points of democrats that responded to this poll. But the need for this poll is there are still 70 of respondents who find Hillary Clinton not trustworthy and like you said, 58 consider her corrupt. These are very difficult numbers for someone who has been in the limelight for almost 30 years. And her lead with democrats which is 84 versus trumps 74 to me is reflective of an establishment candidate. Trumps numbers are not going to be quite as high with the party faithful. He has never run for office before. These are the things we need to look at. People ended in this race so far. That number shows 45 for clinton, 43 for trump. There are plenty of ways to go. A guy who knows polls is Ford Oconnell and we see great opportunity for trump moving forward. Charles i want to follow up with a couple things you just said. I like the positive spin you put on the fact hes getting less on the gop vote than hes getting on the democratic vote. Donald trump took a shot at his rule saying these guys are sore losers. That he would support the nominee. Maybe thats shouting it from a rooftop. But it seems like there is some frustration that his fellow colleagues arent helping him win this thing. One way trump can calm their fears is by having a strong convention. Only 74 of republicans are saying they are backing donald trump. If im Paul Manafort the number that sticks out to me i 89 of respondent say hes hotheaded. I have to do two things over the course of the next couple months. I need to couple with a 30second elevator pitch because she is the weakest democratic candidate they fielded since michael dukakis. I was going to use that hotheaded thing as x intro to kathy. Here is the thing, kathy. Donald trump gives this great speech on trade. He follows it, he gives a 7point rebuttal. He talks by the last night and uses the word race. There is a continues between politically correct and respectful. We are starting to blur those lines. This is the question with donald trump. Can he be consistent and level headed enough in his appearances for people to get over that narrative that Hillary Clinton is starting to chip away with about this hotheaded bombastic aspect of him. Its probably the most unalike candidates in the history of america. 58 . Hoff tells that story the best is going to win. Charles i have got to tell you, you talk around television today and yesterday, the benghazi report swept under the rug. The new females swept under the rug. I think with some blocking and tackling you should feel good about Hillary Clinton. Those things that resonate with voters arent being pounced on by the Mainstream Media. There is an atmosphere of change. She lost in 08 by making the argument she was more experienced than barack obama. The disadvantage for donald trump is demographics, data analytics. Surrogates. Building the rude i ams of what will building the rude rudi. Charles how nuances does that have to be . It is nuanced. Whats happening now is we saw a speech last week from trump, a speech this week. Ebb a lot of people in the Mainstream Media were positive about his delivery. Hes showing leadership and his president ial capacity. But hes still speaking to a lot of voters who got him this far. Ill tell you who is hotheaded. A lot of primary voters are hotheaded. And the National Security anxiety they have like we saw in britain. Hes speaking to a broader audience and hes showing he has president ial timber. To marks point, what trump needs to be doing is making these speeches every week on a new issue. The more of these speeches he makes, the more people will be. She has only improved 2 points over her standing since may. The question for donald trump his own worst enemy may be him. To fords pointing with its not that hillary is running away with this. But donald trump in poll after poll keeps coming in. Hes starting to fade to that core constituency and he has to build it up beyond that. Thats going to be a key indicator to watch. We dont know if Money Matters in this election. We have donald trump who has spent cents on the dollar and is virtually the same place she is. But it doesnt seem to make a difference, and well never know if over the next four months it does or not. But he will have to get some of those independents we have spoken about earlier. He will have to be more president ial and more consistent. And i disagree with what has been said. Hes doing better with the teleprompter. Offending the chamber of commerce when you are giving a trade speech is not the way to go right now. Charles she just opened up a can of worms. But well do that in a different segment. I want you to put on your Paul Manafort hat again. Hes killing it with independents, but how does he stretch that out . The speech last night compared to the speech yesterday. Same themes, same topics, but his anger bubbled to the surface. Jan brewer made a great point. He was as angry as anybody in the primaries, and thats why he resonated with the people. Hes starting to do that, charles. We cant define donald trump based on traditional metrics. And hes got a very, very broad coalition. And we are seeing the effects of that in pennsylvania and ohio and florida. The polling shows he has mobilized people in the working class. What republican has done that since Ronald Ray Dan . This is the essence of donald trump, a broadbased coalition. That coalition is there, he won with that coalition. He will speak to them and at the same time appeal to a broad coalition. Coming up, president Obama Meeting with nafta leaders today. This is to discuss trade talks, but all of them taking shots at donald trump. Apparently his speech yesterday struck a nerve. This used to be a bedrock gop thing, free trade, maybe not anymore. Well be right back. 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Charles president obama arm in arm with the president of mexico and earlier with the president of canada heralding the trade relations between the three countries. Donald trump called that trade deal the worst possibly in the history of america. Listen to what donald trump said yesterday in pennsylvania. Im going to tell our and a half the partners that i intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement to get a better deal by a lot. Not just a little. By a lot, for our workers. Charles the u. S. Chamber of commerce imlassed trumps comments online. They said trade has been a lifeline for many workers in pennsylvania and ohio, especially in the wake of the recession. For those who study the problem, it seems clear the chamber of commerce does have a different agenda than mainstream america. Joining me now, mark serrano is back, Ford Oconnell. Mark, i just finds it fascinating. This used to be a bedrock pillar of the gop platform, free trade. Now its not. Whats going on . Im a reflection of that. In 1993 i ran a campaign for the Business Community to support the passage of nafta. And we won. Republicans teamed up with clinton to pass nafta. After 20 years we have the proof and demonstration that other markets and other deals across the world are open to selling their goods to the United States, but we dont have the same level of access. The Playing Field is not level. These surplus trade countries are not making investments in their domestic markets to stimulate products being purchased here. We have seen sit for 20 years. Who has gotten stiffed and the shaft but the American Worker. We have seen tonight our employment. We have seen it in manufacturing, particularly in pennsylvania and ohio and other states. As a republican who worked on nafta, trump is right on this issue. Charles january 1, 1994, nafta goes into effect. Pennsylvania, 850,000 manufacturing workers. However, output has gown by billions and billions. So there is something there. There has to be Something Else influencing this. Some would say its productivity. Others would say its computers and robots. Its not a singular issue, is it . It isnt. Its very complex. But what the voters care about is a singular impact of jobs. Im talking to you from buffalo, new york. All these other great manufacturing cities that have been hollowed out by these terrible trade agreements. Long before nafta and now with this new trade agreement that Hillary Clinton was behind and now she is against the tpp, there are people around these very important areas, the pence vein yaz, the ohios who understand the impact of bad trade deals because they lost their jobs, their uncles, grandfathers, and these areas arent recovering yet. Charles 200,000 jobs in pennsylvania are supported by the export markets. More than half of the countries we have free trade agreements with. If we launch into a fullscale trading war or tariff battle, there will be casualties on our side. Elections are solely about emotion. In this era of globalization the rules of trade are not working for workingclass americans on main street. When donald trump says it needs to be changed. People in ohio are looking for a lifeline. America lost 12. 2 million jobs to china. Hes got the right idea. I understand what you are saying about the possible repercussions. But people are honestly look for water and they are going to listen to anyone who speaks in their tone. Charles donald trump making a plea to Bernie Sanders supporters. I think he has Hillary Clinton in a series pickle. Her support for tpp until she didnt support it. Her husband signing nafta. It is something everyone is hitting on. The emotions running extraordinarily high. Its the strongest case for being president of the United States. How does hillary combat that . The anger is going against the facts in some cases. There is an underlying anger. Dont forget. Trump was for globalization three years ago in a cnn oped. Hillary clinton was for Hillary Clinton until it got finalized. This anger is going to fuel it. People should ask what does this look like to unravel these agreements. Its the same type of question brexit voters are asking. Charles coming up more on trade and the problems beyond the bad trade deals. When we come back well discuss some solutions there, and terror around the world wont go away. Well be right back. If a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists. Polidents unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99. 99 of odor causing bacteria. For a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. Every country, virtually, every country that we do business with looks at us as the stupid people with a piggy bang they are just keeping. They take on they take our jobs, they take our money, they dont respect us. Charles that was donald trump in maine earlier slamming trade policies and accusing Hillary Clinton and president obama of making trade deals that hurt American Workers. I think this can be the winning message for donald trump in november. Mercedes. We heard from the chamber of commerce that said trade with mexico and canada supports 14 million jobs, an increase of 5 million because of nafta. Its been 20some years. Dont you think its time to renegotiate nafta . We see a different Case Scenario in terms of workforce changes in the United States. When you look back at nafta in particular. There are very few environmental or labor provisions in place. Many mexican workers have been exploited during this process. Many jobs have left the u. S. Hundreds of thousands of jobs have left the u. S. To mexico. President obama in 2008 mentions that he was going to renegotiate or fix nafta so it would benefit the American Worker and in the end thats the message donald trump is sending to insure that these trade deals are not just negotiated in thin air. We are making it so that the workers, the American Worker is benefiting from the trait agreements. Charles in recent years the changes to nafta probably helped the mexican economy more. Before, mexican Truck Drivers had to stop at the borders and american Truck Drivers could pick up the goods. But here is the thing, scott. We know that this is going to be this is interesting. It resonates on main street. And you have both sides of the establishment pushing back. The establishment established the rules and they are not working for main street. The 20 thing these things were negotiated. So much has changed in the American Economy and american manufacturing. You mentioned it, too. There is all kind of new teleand productivity. And that really has to be addressed in a new set of rules. A redefinition. When people say they are going to start a trade war, what have they been doing . What has china been doing . Dumping product here. What would they do if they say no more mr. Nice guy, what are they going to be like then . President obama pushing back on this. What a day for him to get on stain with the other two guys. They took so many shots at donald trump, but they also of course tried to defend nafta. I want you to listen to what president obama had to say. My pushback on both the left and the right when it comes to protectionism or antitrade argument, is you are right to be concerned about the trend, but what you are prescribing will not work. Charles gina, 1993 we had a 19 million trade surplus and last year it was a 0 billion trade defend different was a 60 billion trade deficit. He must be afraid of what donald trump is going to do to his friend and those whose pockets he padded during his administration. They are like spoiled children. Its a piggy bang to them. All you have to do is looking at the reality. In 1970, 63 of income werent to the middle class. Today that number is 43 . Where do you think the money has gone . Its gone to line the pockets of those proposing the idea. You have the American People whose income has decreased. Charles there are stark parallels. We have more on the fox news poll. Well look at the candidate and their policies when it comes to National Security and the economy. Charles latest fox news poll just released as Hillary Clinton up, 44 to Donald Trumps 38 , in wake of terror attacks in turkey, could Donald Trumps stance on National Security help turn things around . Kathy, you are an intelligence expert, and you spend quite an amount of time in washington, d. C. And among regular folks. We heard after the jobs numbers that any polls taken before that, was going to change the dynamics, we heard after orlando that would change it, and after brexit, polls have not really changed that much could they are tight. But this is a great issue for donald trump. Could this have an impact. There is some debate on whether or not donald trump has been getter or worse since orlando on National Security. Lets remember this, over last year, terrorrelated deaths or killings, have increased almost 50 . In 10 of 11 countries, where they are most prevalent, or highest number of refugees, there is a real relation between this whether we like it or not. That is a topic that he has been strong and had will go good polling and good response, he needs to do a better job of tying the narrativessin together more substantively. When he gets off the cuff, he is persevered as more hot headed. Charles turkey has it 3 or 4 terrorist attacks this year, and they have the most refugees in the country. To kathys point, you know in new quinnipiac poll, they said that donald trump is by far more trusted in terms of terror, than Hillary Clinton. So that plays well for him, i think he will goe