We lost millions of jobs. Too late. I should have been there 10 years ago. Nobody would have left. Because you need the right messenger. Im your messenger. Charles trump today in a Surprise Campaign appearance with rnc chairman reince priebus. A new survey of Consumer Sentiments show they dont expect either candidate to win on the economy. Joining me next, vince, we are talking about dueling economic plans. What do you think . I dont think in trumps plan will work have well. I dont think we need that tax cut running deficits the size we are running. Not to mention overcoming the tax revenue loss is extremely poor to put it mildly. The idea of cutting taxes on the rich when there is so much concern about inequality is not a good idea. I think a lasting environmental regulation is brillant and brave of him. Charles betsy . Donald trumps tax plan will produce an enormous increase in economic growth. The key factor is slashing the Corporate Tax rate. Currently the highest in the world down to 15 . Companies in the United States are being taxed to death. Thats why so many of them are leaving or retrenching their business investments. Business investment has declined. Literally pushing us towards the brink of a business recession. Let me just point out in response to bens comments about the poor and tax reduction for the rich. Slashing the Corporate Tax rate will benefit the poor the most. Under barack obama, poverty has increased substantially. 800 million living under poverty since he became president. Charles every income bracket gets a tax break. But hillary quickly pointing out that this means millionaires will be pocketing hundreds of thousands dollars more where someone in the middle class will get 2,000 or 3,000. The bible says that a man leaves an inheritance to his childrens children. Hillary clintons plan is immoral. The estate tax, they might have less money for their families. Now there is a threshold of 3 million versus the 5 million which used to be untaxable. In addition, hillarys plan has been pretty much status quo. Raise the taxes on the rich and demonize those who worked hard for what they have. Besides the fact he is slashing the corporate rate. Hes also providing for childcare. I think that reduction will be helpful to a lot of folks. Charles this gets us back to the debate on whether trickle down economics works. It is do you throw it out there, and a lot of people cower and they say they dont remember filing for some reason. The problem for both candidate is we dont know how their policies will affect the poor. Nobody is speaking to the needs of the poor. They are trying to up around rhetoric of the past. Charles wouldnt that include the poor . You would think. But hit has shown that doesnt include the poor. I want to point out, there is a lot of attention to the poor and almost no attention to who makes up the poor. So the poor is disproportionately racial minorities. We havent seen anything from either candidate, and especially and particularly donald trump on issues that directly affect these people. Charles i have got to go. I have got to go back to ben stein. Hes our resident historian. People dismissing the idea if the economy rises it should ing eryo alo witt. It does not lift boats which are under water. If i may say to our friend the lieutenant governor, there is no evidence slashing the Corporate Tax rate producing growth. With all due respect, im the one who studied it, you are the poll figure. You can. No, i have a ph. D. With all due respect there i no evidence of that. There is. If you look at people who slashed their Corporate Tax rates. Ireland that was having extreme economic difficulties. Last year it 7 years of the obama economy we are at less than 2 . You have no idea of of that. You can say it. But there has never been any dat connecting those two. Of course there is. There i no data connecting. There are a million other thing going on. Ireland had a major financial collapse, then the banks were shored up. It was the because of a change in Corporate Tax rates. Charles how does a president ial candidate create an economic plan, if you will, that somehow compartments carves out one sector. Could the plan be a create a general aura of opportunity and economic backdrop . You think that would be the case. But there is a lot more than goes into it. This policy is going to lift everybody up. You have to look at the policies surrounding it. There are a lot of of comparisons to other countries. But other countries are not detroit or baltimore or chicago. We have to think what are the policies that have worked in these cities in the past. Truth be told we havent seen policies in general that have worked for anyone. Charles one thing we have seen in these large cities that leah is referring to where democrats have been in control for a long period of time. They have the biggest gaps with respect to income inequality. And those are the areas where it sees hopeless for a lot of minorities. I completely agree. Me being from chicago. I can tell you 42 of those unemployed between the aches of 18 and 24 are black men. Been is raising taxes on everyone going into a healthy economy . The folk in chicago, thats what they have done. They continue to raise taxes and overregulate the city. Yet africanamericans continue to do very poorly, especially when you compare them to their white peers. With the greatest possible respect, if you have data that show the poor in terms of prosperity in terms of white and blacks because of the tax policy, you have data no one is in the world has. Charles beyond the lower taxes. Its interesting, donald trump has made a shift to childcare which he has the heard about with respect to republicans. Is it possible there could be additional moves in this plan to zero in and focus more on the working poor . A key part of this economic plan so far is unfettered energy development. You talk about after i. Go to the coal mining regions of this country where people black and white are suffering tremendously from unemployment. The suicide rate is high or higher than it was during the Great Depression because so many middle and i people have been left without jobs and searched for them year after year as Energy Production has been eliminated in those areas of the country. Energy production will put millions of americans to work again. Charles a fox business alert. We got one. Hillary clinton releasing her tax rush and shes pushing donald trump to do the same. Gaviscon is a proven heartburn remedy that gives you fastacting, longlasting relief. It immediately neutralizes acid and only gaviscon helps keep acid down for hours. For fastacting, longlasting relief, try doctorrecommended giscon. Legalzoom has your back. 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This notion about donald trump not releasing his taxes and the clintons making 10 million. Under any other circumstances, that 10 million would stand out tremendously for someone railing against the rich who could make this much money for only being a politician. It might stand out, the 10 million seems like a lot of money. But when i travel across the country, they dont care how much money Hillary Clinton or donald trump made. What they care about is whether they will have somebody in the white house making economic policies that will allow them to thrive. It doesnt seem well find that under Hillary Clinton. Charles we wont find those policies . Is that what people are telling you . They are telling me we wont have policies under a Hillary Clinton administration that will allow them to save for their childrens College Education or even put food on their plates. Just because of the Affordable Care act, we are in the slowest recovery since 1949. Thats not success. And hoyle are you fully supports the policies of barack obama. Not success, thats not what we are finding now. I weeper time i leave my accountants office. It worked the last two election cycles. And it might be working now. This politics of envy, its an amazing thing. It create a situation where people often will vote against their ownselfinterest because they think somebody is getting so much more than they are. Since when does being successful become a bad word . I want my children to have he opportunity to be successful and i want a president that will give them that opportunity for success. If i wish when donald trump released his economic plan that he put more attention to simplifying the tax code. Hillary clinton isnt even saying that. She used on against tax cuts, now she is for tax cuts. She has been pushed so far to the left by Bernie Sanders supporters, making her feel like she has to be incredibly liberal. His plan is a liberal fantasy. Free college is never going to happen. We need to talk about what is realistic. Thats what donald trump is talking about, cutting our tax brackets. Charles you are an author, you write books, you understand a lot of things with respect to politics. That is definitely a totally different thing. Right now a lot of people are still underestimating because we saw throughout the entire primary process underestimate within underestimate. I think there are a lot of people not willing to say they will vote for trump and maybe it am not coming through in polling. But at the ends of the day they will pull the ballot box for them. Charles on the economy side of things, the economic side of things, the idea that people are saying at least Hillary Clinton is trying to pay for all the free promises. The one scoring we saw, the 1. 2 trillion. Thats her argument. That redistribution is the only way for any sort of to make things quoteunquote fair in this country, kevin. Thats been the argument the democrats laid out for a number of years. Sometimes they are more overt by the. And sometimes less. She is saying what democrats have said for years. When there are enough totters that make the man want the money given to them, that argument works. Hillary is being more overt than barack obama was and she is banking on the fact that will work in november. Charles any growth possibilities if hillary is elected . I think its disastrous for our economy. I think in a lot of ways it will be bad news. I do think people at least know what they are going to get. So in that area people will be more comforted that we dont like it, but we know what we are going to get. They are worried about trump. Whats he going to do. Charles up next, donald trump, hes sort of backing down a little bit on his comments that Hillary Clinton and barack obama cofounded isis. He said it was sarcasm and the media, we just dont get it. Well be right back. 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I give them the most valuable player award. I give it to him and i gave the cofounder to hillary. With his bad policies. If he had does things properly. Charles donald trump reiterating his opinion that barack obama and Hillary Clinton were cofounders of isis. He said they dont get the sarcasm. Obviously there has been more than one occasion where the media who is just listening for any small miscue possible has taken Donald Trumps words out of context. Is this one of them . Of course it is. We can expect it every single day because the media will do everything in their power to distract and talk about what donald trump is saying so they dont have to talk about what Hillary Clinton has done. We all know topics like benghazi couple and topics like what happened around the world with regime change. Topics like the deals that the Clinton Foundation made with some of these rogue nations and how she personally profited from it. They dont want to talk about that. They want to talk about what donald trump says. Charles they talked about Hillary Clinton on more than one occasion how donald trump is a great recruiter for isis its not dissimilar from saying someone is the founder of isis. This election can be won if you talk about the failed policies of barack obama and Hillary Clinton. I have benton your show critical of the policies of this administration in iraq. Its kinds of minds bolling to me that we continue to have these are you deck thus discussions. This election could easily be won by donald trump or any republican if they would focus on the failed policies of this administration that the American People are incredibly frustrated with. Charles that being said, donald trump does talk about the economy and other things. But the media will zero in on any perceived gaffe. The media is going to focus on it. But i agree with what she was saying. The policies of this administration are so terrible when it comes to Foreign Policy, that there is no need for hyperbole. By using these broad, oh, hes the founder of isis. I understand its its its sarcasm. But sometimes when you go so far away from the real truth, and on almost every Foreign Policy issue the Obama Administration has been entirely wrong. I agree we have to focus on the issues. Lets cut back on the hyperbole so we can talk about how terrible it really is. What do you think that already ways to bring all these things up. Its a thing though this is part of Donald Trumps personality. If they were criticizing hillary for things she said that might be taken in a different context or taken out of context has i believe this was. But they dont do that. Donald trump none day will give a speech on radical islamic terror. He will state his entire policy in that speech. Well be hearing from him then a serious discussion. But this is at a rally where hes identifying with his you yens and you cant expect him not to make jokes. What speeches are given at rallies without jokes. I think he was trying to be funny and we need to laugh a little bit more and start looking at actions instead of words. Charles i dont know how much any of us will be able to laugh beforer. After the election. Hillary clinton is starting to get under the microscope again. This time its serious stuff, trump is accusing her of pay for play. This is the practice while she was at