Radicalization by the killers, and of bow tension inspiration by foreign potential inspiration by Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Deirdre the attack left 14 people dead, 21 people wounded. Investigators are looking a Facebook Post by Tashfeen Malik implied others were involved. The Facebook Post was in different name and shows a pledge to isis. Earlier, numerous journalists wept into the shooters apartment in redlands, california. Jeff flock was there. Any clues that were found in any that speak to larger potential connections . Reporter deirdre, i was not one of the journalists that traipsed through the house t was a bizarre scene, landlords of couple allowing reporters and members of the general public to traipse through the house after the fbi had left it. The fbi said they were done. So that happened. In terms of what they found, the fbi already recovered two cell phones that had been crushed and thrown into a dumpster. In addition, recovering computer evidence as well. Which led to that post on facebook, which apparently was not in the name of Tashfeen Malik but, they believe that she did post it, expressing her allegiance to, to isis. Right at about the same time this shooting was takes place. Kind of bizarre. As i said, there was an attempt to delete that digital footprint and, apparently not all together successfully. As you said, waiting on this press conference now. Members of the family of syed farooks family have been talking to reporters today and said they really did not see this coming. They dont know why this happened. So well see what more they have to say when they talk to reporters shortly. Deirdre thank you so much. Jeff flock joining us there from San Bernardino, california. Fbi director james comey spoke moments ago. We have no indication that these killers are part of an organized larger group or formed part of a cell. There is no indication that they are part of a network. Deirdre with more on a potential network, digital trace, investigators found two crushed cell phones in a trashcan nearby. Investigators still able to exploit data from phones, glean new clues into the shooting. Former Israeli Defense force counterterrorism commando is with me, aaron cohen. Aaron, welcome. Investigators say the suspects attempted to destroy their digital fingerprints. What do you make of this Facebook Posting that has since been removed but apparently showed a posting from malik right at the same time the shootings started . Deirdre, i make that those are two very strong connections to the terrorist group isis. The first point being that they destroyed evidence. It is known in the catosphere to destroy any evidence of communication there. Are blogs on internet actually teach how to use secure communication, the way lets say one of our special operations might do when theyre overseas. Number two, the fact that the Facebook Post went up and quickly taken off, means that one of the instructions that is given on these blogs to these wouldbe jihadists to get as much propaganda online as possible so that the message can spread, the word can spread. Lineage can be drawn between the terror attack, deirdre, and the rest of the jihadist community. Deirdre what president fact it wasnt in her name . Is that her trying to protect her mission or is there Something Else there . Thats a good question. I think that is her trying to protect her mission in order to keep potential intelligence agencies off their tail so they can be successful carrying out the attack. Almost doesnt matter whether it is her or not that puts up post. There was a post that would have gone up or stayed up directly correlated with that attack which has tremendous psychological impact through the propaganda through social media. So it almost doesnt matter at that point. Deirdre almost doesnt matter. I want to ask you. You worked in israel. You as a society have to face a threat of everyday people, lives being put in jeopardy. What can the u. S. Learn from israel . The first thing, excellent question, deirdre. The egos with the Intelligence Community have to drop. Intelligence agencies have to play nice. Mossad and shabak didnt always play nice. That was our internal security service. They had to get their act together to share information. They are much better at it. Political correctness and security are two different things. You cant allow any correctness when it comes to intelligence gathering, conducting operations abroad, hardening of our infrastructure here for proper multilayer, and allowing any Political Correctness to get in between the insulation measures and these terrorists. Ultimately at end you will fail. Deirdre aaron im cutting you off with reason. Im sorry for that. Were going to listen in to the family of the shooter farook speaking out through it is attorney. The fbi chief james comey came out and said there was no sign that the alleged shooters belonged a larger organization, like a larger organized terrorist group or terrorist cell. So i, theyre trying to, or they, they have come up with some things where theyre trying to say that they were inspired by some groups but there hasnt been any clear, smoking gun evidence that they were part of any particular cell or any group. Theyre pointing to things that they saw on facebook under different account names in the case of Tashfeen Malik. She supposedly had a facebook account set up kind different name say visited some group that may have been, had ties to, you know he, to more, you know as more information keeps coming out well identify which facts are accurate and facts that are not. That is whole point of us meeting with the fbi weve been meeting with agents of fbi. Wer were at their office in riverside for about four hours yesterday. Well finish up monday hopefully with other Family Members of the as more facts come out the types of relationships each Family Member had well be relating that to you guys had. What can you say right now . What do you know about what inspired them . What we can say from our fourhour interview or investigation that took place with the fbi yesterday, that none of the Family Members had any idea this was going to take place. They were totally shocked, rahin, syra, iba, the brother and sisters of the alleged shooter. Had no idea to the point where when they got word that there was an incident that had taken place they were worried about the health and safety of syed and tashfeen because they had so, it was, there has never been any evidence that either of the two alleged shooters were aggressive, had extremist views. They were, they were totally shocked that this could take place, as shocked as anybody else was. The Family Members knew at tashfeens officer in law. The information we have is shocking and they were surprised at information that came out. There is no official, there is no official discrimination of what the reason was. When we actually were discusses everything with the fbi yesterday. And theyre still going through their facts and diligence as we are as well. If there is anything remarkable about the investigation that took place yesterday, it is no ties could really be established to the point of frustration on the part of the fbi. I mean you know if theres, if the most evidence there is to any affiliation is a facebook account under another persons name, that is supposedly just visited some site, then thats hardly anything at all. And throughout the whole process, the investigation yesterday, it got to the point where the fbi actually said, look, let us explain ourselves. Were trying to find evidence or information that could cause us to believe that, that syed farook was in some way affiliated with this incident, something inspired him to be involved in this incident. And, but the problem were having is were not finding any evidence of any behavior that would lead show us that this would be the alleged shooter. And so, you know, why is that happening . And we were all like, well, we dont have any explanation for you other than that there is no evidence. None of the family knew of him as being extreme or aggressive or having, any extreme religious views. I think what the media should also be cautious about just because he had a religion, he was muslim, it had nothing to do with these acts. Islam does not agree, does not support any type of actions that occur like this. It does not support killing. It does not support murder of innocent individuals. The family would never support anything like this. Theyre giving their hearts and their prays Everything Else they can do to citizens, to victims that lost their life that day as well. If two of them indeed did not have any ties to groups [inaudible] what point do you want to make . Media is not making allegations. Fbi is. Fbi hasnt made, the media is leading with assuming this is a terrorist situation. The assumption fbi is making this is investigation into possible terrorist attack. Every investigation fbi does with muslim will involve some type of investigation. [inaudible]. Were relaying information. What do you think the motive is then for the shooting . I mean theres, there was information about the fact that his coworkers has kind of made fun of him, for example, and his beard. He was a very isolated, introverted individual with really no friends we could identify, like maybe one friend or no friends. And so i guess what we would say is that, when an incident happens like this, when a christian goes to shoot up a planned parenthood, or an extreme catholic goes and bombs an Abortion Clinic, all the headlines dont say, extremist radical christian, christian catholic, christian catholic, like now every headline is saying muslim and attaching muslim to it. I think there is tendency to take cookie cutter version or paradigm of a terrorist time event and super impose it on a situation just because that person of muslim belief or tradition. I dont think we should jump to too many conclusions. We need to protect the Muslim Community. Were seeing a lot of inning infringements upon rights of all us. Were talking about political candidates could be our next president saying we should register all muslims and mosques should be investigated and looked into or families of terrorists should be killed without due process. Or latest thing that was said, it was known that it was going, that it was terrorist act that was committed simply because the person had an islamic last name. I think any of us sitting here could say, look, if somebody said that they knew a heinous criminal act had been committed due to religion, just because it was a person of a certain last name, and, lets say it was committed, it was alleged to be committed on behalf of Kruse Christians and it was on batch of jews because you had jewish last name, your faith is constantly attacked i have some friends and people i work with are muslims. Every Muslim Community around the world is in state of remorse and condemnation of these acts. No one supports it. Just as no christian or catholic would say, oh, yeah, thats a good catholic that bombed that, that Abortion Clinic or shot up that planned parenthood. But not even, we cant even use that example as of yet, like the fbi chief james comey said, there has been no evidence that they found yet, this is his words in the l. A. Times, as of 1 00 p. M. Today, that they are linked to a larger organized terrorist group or terrorist cell. All there is, this is much the frustration i think of the fbi, and everyone because we all want, we all want an answer. Were all angry. Were all frustrated. Were all sad. We want justice. But unfortunately things, some things in life are not as clearcut as that. All there is thus far is some nebulous thing that somebody looked at something on facebook. I mean any one of us may have looked at something on facebook. Doesnt mean we believe in it. I have checked out a Britney Spears post and i hate Britney Spears music. Doesnt mean you condone whatever you look at or read or you fully believe and youre acting on behalf of whatever you look at or read. We just have to be protective of religious freedom in our country. Of our Fourth Amendment rights. You know, just recently the landlords let journalists into the apartment of syed farook. There are Media Outlets going through this taking pictures, people who are not either one of the suspects. Invading personal space. Sending inappropriate pictures as well. This is the whole point of the fbi investigation. It is to determine what level and what actually caused this. And david said, l. A. Times has reported what james comey has said. Were waiting to get more information as well. Favorable of isis what should people make about that . What do you mean favorable attitudes . Supposedly expressed sympathy towards isis. What should people make of that . What evidence is there of that . What are you pointing to . What ways did they express sympathy. His exact quote the investigation developed radicalization of killers and inspiration by Foreign Terrorist Organizations. He did say there is no indication being part of a local cell or bigger cell but these are his words. He is trying to say it was inspired by but, what i have read so far, were all learning because the investigation is on going. Were the attorneys for the family, not the investigators. So none of us have all the information right now. But from what ive read, all i have seen, somebody looked at something on facebook. There was another thing, there was another article i read that the fbi had investigated people who syed farook allegedly spoke to. Even those people the fbi had investigated nothing came up for any of those people. This is danger were getting into. Are you saying that do not believe there will be any connection to Foreign Terrorist Organization . I think were saying we have to wait for the investigation to be done before we make any kind of determination. Isnt that what the fbi is saying now . I think the reports have been coming out now is that clinging to terrorist group theyre investigating. Theyre investigating. But until the investigation is done it can not be made any type of determination there was a group. If there was connection to anybody. And moment that we start doing are you saying we should not be pursuing these developments as they emerge . Because the fbi is going through the process and its a process. Yes. And as they get information and as they find out theyre reporting. So i i think idea of terrorists has been reported since this, since this incident happened. I think as more information comes out, then the media can start making reports. As we get we are reporting. You shouldnt be making reports or statements there is connection to terrorist group until there is factual link. Were criminal Defense Attorneys. We look for actual evidence. So we cant jump to conclusions is what we believe. You know. We listened to what the fbi says because the fbi is gathering evidence. So we have to, we consider the fbi a credible source. Right. Yeah. I mean, i just think that what were looking at is, like i said, when there is, when the fbi chief has literal came out and said they found no link to a larger terrorist group or terrorist cell, i think people need to listen to that and consider that. And, every headline, until, there is absolute clear evidence, every headline doesnt have to say muslim massacre, or muslim shooters because its going to cause intolerance and what we need right now is forgiveness. I think although this is, there were muslim people, and muslim families involved in this incident, and, as a, primarily christian nation, i think were a people of mercy and forgiveness and i think we need to avoid bigotry, stereotyping. Anything that we would be uncomfortable happening to us as christians we should try to avoid doing that to muslims as well. [inaudible] some of the reports you heard that lung these acts to terrorism prematurely . I dont think were here to criticize. Were here to protect the clients. They happen to be muslims and Muslim Community and also to stand up for the victims and grief for the victims and saying were remorseful what took place. The Muslim Community doesnt support or condone what took place. Every muslim leader has come out and said this is not a muslim act. When someone goes crazy commit as act that could be totally workrelated doesnt make a statement on behalf of entire religion. Were trying to protect people. At same time were still in mourning for both family and victims t was tragic. Its horrible. And, and, were trying to heal the nation i think as a whole. [inaudible] family see any evidence of terrorist sympathy, did they see any evidence of disgruntelment in the work place, of unhappiness in his life . There was a mention where he got teased about his beard. But there was nothing else about that. He usually shrugged off any type of jokes people made about his facial hair or appearance. That is his family or friends. That is what the family said. In the conversations with people you represent did they mention these go people ever discussed isis as general conversation . They never did. And thats, you know, thats why were being, were just, were just making sure that were not overzealous in our characterization of these events one way or another until, until very, until strong evidence comes out showing that this was indeed affiliated with something. And, i mean, i guess the frustration was we sat through the fourhour interview with the fbi that is investigation is not done yet. We still have more interviews well be conducting with the fbi thats why i do caution making any type of judgment for before everything is done. During that investigation, we as attorneys, as criminal Defense Attorneys practicing 10 years, were looking for evidence, things of substance substantiate link or tie to something just as fbi was. When we sate there for four hours being interview with Fa