The meeting comes just days after antitrump forces met in washington d. C. To talk about their strategy. Joining me now dr. Sam clovis is with me on the phone. Sam, thank you so much for the time. So how did the meeting go . Well, i happen to be in the iowa, so i wasnt present at the meeting. But i can assure you given the people involved, im sure it was very frank, it was very direct, and also i would suggest that probably everybody came out of there with a lot better feeling of where we are. Deirdre okay. A better feeling about where you are. Because as i mentioned just a few days ago, people who dont want trump to be the nominee also met also had a similar strategy session. Well, i really think, you know, again, i hate to use the phrase. But i think theyre whistling past the graveyard. I think what theyre really out there doing is a lot of wishful thinking. If you take a look at where we are the path of the delegate count. We stand an excellent chance of getting to 1237 before the convention. If we get to 1237 before the convention, everybody will have to figure out to come onboard, and i think they will. Deirdre okay. Now, on a quick programming note, just sorry we want to let our viewers know representative Chris Collins will be with Charles Payne. That discussion comes their way in about an hours time. So you want to stay tuned for that. But trump did name Foreign Policy team member, sam, i want to ask you about this. So for those who dont believe in him, for those who say okay. Hes really just an entertainer. Will they be reassured by list and of course Jeff Sessions at the top of it. I think so and i think one of the things youll take a look at here is these are not establishment people. These are hard working people. These are people who have great reputations in the field. Ive had the opportunity to interview every one of them. Ive sat down and talked to every one of them. Ive had the opportunity to see where they were with a lot of these issues. And one of the things i think is distinctive particularly in the military members is these are men who have made hard decisions in combat. And they have a very clear picture and very real picture of where we are in the world. And their advice is very direct and, again, its the nature of our campaign. Direct and to the point and blunt. And i think this is exactly the kind of information we need. Theres no melissa so, sam, not to cut you off. But the idea is donald trump never served in the military. And so youre saying by choosing people around him, hes showing his leadership skills. In that hes picking people who really do have qualifications. Absolutely. And frankly i count myself among them. Im a 25 year veteran myself. So i ive got a couple of years in the combat zone. So when it comes to sitting down and talking to people, i think we have a pretty good idea of what were looking for, and i think we found some excellent people. Deirdre okay. We take your word on that seriously. Especially with you say as a quarter of a century of experience in the field. Now, in a bit for unity, trump says the republicans will lose the general election without him. We just want to play one clip from him saying that, and then ill get your take on it, sam. Sure. I dont know whats going to happen. But i will say this. Youre going to have a lot of very unhappy people. And i think frankly for the republicans to disenfranchise all those people because if that happens, theyre not voting and the republicans lose. Do you tell your supporters not to riot if you if you lose fair and square . Well, i would certainly tell them that but these people they want to see positive things happen for our country. And i would certainly say that. I dont want to see riots. Deirdre so, sam, this is for many people who want to support trump but cant quite lets say do that last mile for him. Is that on the one hand he does show leadership by reaching out to people such as yourself. On the other hand, there are has been language that the other candidates arent using in this kind of populous swell. As somebody who is a thinker and a supporter, how do you reconcile the two . Well, i think for i appreciate what you just said. That means an awful lot to me. The i do think we have a lot of people who have been able to finally touch they have someone that they accountable in. And i think that there is a lot of out here on that part of it. I do think and one of the things weve always said. And i think mr. Trump has reiterated this. As long as everybody follows the rule, as long as everybody follows a rule, theres not going to be any issue. Now, people may get disappointed, but we want to make sure we follow the rules as they are today. We dont want people changing the rules. We dont want all of that other nastiness coming on. Deirdre yeah, youre asking for fairness. Exactly. And thats all weve ever asked for. And the request he you have to ask yourself, deirdre, is why have so many of these republicans who supposedly have demanded that mr. Trump essentially sign a loyalty oath now are the ones who are out here barking the loudest about not wanting to be part of the Republican Party . You have to ask yourself that question. So the hypocrisy seems to have no bounds when it comes to that side of the equation. Deirdre so, sam, your point is well taken. I think its just jockeying. Its a very long season as anybody would tell you. Republican candidates john kasich, donald trump are set to speak this hour at the pro israel conference. So trump made some comments about israel over the weekend. We just want to bring our viewers up to speed in case they didnt hear them. Hold on. Okay. Well, im just going to paraphrase because we dont have the sound byte. But essentially he implied that he would be neutral. In israel palestinian talks. So, again, is this somebody whos wise and diplomatic . Or is this somebody who doesnt support israel . No. No. No. Nothing could be further from the truth. My goodness his daughter and soninlaw and grandchildren are jewish. So i he has a long history of supporting israel. He is one of the most adamant supporters i know on a personal basis because of my conversations with him. And talking about this very issue. I think what hes trying to say and perhaps people are misconstruing what hes saying, hes saying so if youre going to ask the american youre going to ask the American People and the president of the United States to sit down and arbitrate and mediate a Peace Agreement between the Palestinian Authority and the israelis, then you have to figure out a way to come into that so that you can have an objective open mind so that you can properly mediate that issue. This is not about being neutral. Because his support for israel is unwavering and strong. Its about the idea if you ask the president of the United States to negotiate, that you have to go in, and there has to be give and take on both sides. If you want an honest broker, and you want that person to do. Thats the approach that has to be taken. Deirdre okay. If you go in and say that im all in for israel and so, no, matter what the Palestinian Authority says. Deirdre right . Im all in for israel. Deirdre youre already thats not an honest broke broker. Deirdre Hillary Clinton, however, is really hammering this point home about donald trump. Heres a comment she just made. Okay. For some reason were having technical difficulties, sam. Thank you for bearing with us. But essentially she is saying that she has supported a Free Independent israel and his stance is unclear. But what i want to know is bigger than this. Yeah. Melissa in a general election if it ends up being donald trump versus Hillary Clinton, how is he going to handle this issue . Well, i think the other thing is hes been honest. Hes been up front and honest about it. I think you know, the issue as a businessman. Ends this. And what were really after if you truly want peace, then lets go in here, and you ask the american president to mediate a Peace Agreement. Then were going to have to sit down and bear our souls together at the table. I think it is irresponsible and frankly disingenuous to because it in here deirdre were now having technical difficulties it sounds like with your line. So well see if we can get sam back. That of course was dr. Sam clovis, and he is the national cochair of the donald trump campaign. So just to reiterate, right now in washington d. C. Two candidates. We are waiting for them to speak. One of them is donald trump. Youre looking at a live shot there. That of course is the American Israel Public Affairs committee. This is a big convention. It is annual. So this evening donald trump will be speaking. Also Ohio Governor john kasich will be speaking as well. We will take you there live. Also worth noting, there are some planned protests actually around that event, around Donald Trumps speaking time. So we will, in fact, take you there live if that does start to happen. But ahead of the primary, donald trump joking about whether mitt romney is a true norman. 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You want more. Love romance . Get lost in every embrace. Into sports . Follow every pitch, every play and every win. Change the way you experience tv with x1 from xfinity. Let me be very, very clear. As president , i will not be neutral. [cheers and applause] america will stand unapologetically with the nation of israel. We see people that are anxious and concerned of the future. But the last thing we need to do is poor gasoline on a fire. I think we need to be in a room and acknowledge the problems and also offer solutions that can unify the country. Deirdre youre looking right now at a live shot. This is happening in washington d. C. Its the American Israel Public AffairsCommittee Policy conference. So it is annual. Candidates there taking turns trying to win the pro israel votes. Governor kasich and donald trump two candidates who may start speaking shortly, so we will get you there live as soon as they do. In the meantime, im pleased to welcome back former special assistant from george w. Bush, current kasich supporter ron christie. Ron, welcome back to the program. Always a pleasure to be with you. Deirdre so i assume that governor kasichs strategy is going to be to play up his years of experience. Maybe show at least in his view, that trump seems unpredictable or senator cruz is essentially still a freshman senator. Do you think thats going to be kasichs strategy . Well, i would put it to you this way. One thing about governor kasich and having worked for him for eight years as a legislative director in congress, hes not interested of what other people are doing as opposed to what hes doing. And what hes done, when he was in the congress and the Armed Service committee for 18 years. He has traveled to israel, he has traveled to the middle east and governor kasich recognizes that israel is our strongest ally, our strongest democratic partner in the middle east, and we need to find a way to have peace in the middle east. And i think hes going to reinforce those themes and that message in front of apec this evening. Deirdre okay. And as far as where he is going to stand. You know, with Hillary Clinton we were talking about this has been very tough in the public on donald trump. Accusing donald trump of being neutral when it comes to israel and palestine. How what is governor kasichs message . No. Theres no neutrality here. We need to stand firmly, strongly, and solidly behind the jewish of israel. And there should be no peace deal, no peace negotiations until the palestinians unequivocally reject terrorism, reject the violence that has been fostered for so many years. And governor kasich is going to say to the folks of apec tonight, we stand shoulder to you shoulder with you as americans but we recognize the jewish state, the jewish in israel and allies and we will not have a negotiated settlement with the palestinians until they reject terrorism and violence. Deirdre ron, your points are heard. I want to ask you a broader question about the campaign. Because yesterday donald trump spoke at a admin florida, and he spoke about the governor. And also about ted cruz. Heres donald trump. Now, im down to two leftovers. I have two leftovers. I have lying ted. And i have john. Okay . I have and i think well be n great shape. I mean but heres the thing. Look, n all seriousness. We you have to beat your enemy; right . Dont you have to . Deirdre so how does this set up . Obviously strong words, dismissive words for the other two candidates. Kasich and senator cruz, what does this mean ahead of arizona and ahead of utah . Well, tomorrows a very important night for the three gentlemen who are still running for the republican nomination. I think what we need to recognize here is that we need to have a leader, someone whos willing to say what theyre willing to do, how theyre willing to do it, and how they have a positive vision for america. And i think donald trump is very short on specifics. Very short on how he would exactly lead america other than say okay. Lets make america great. Thats a nice throw away line. But governor kasich has been very strong in saying were going to balance the budget. Were going to have a Strong National defense. Were going to defeat isis. Were going to stand shoulder to shoulder with our allies in israel. And senator lying ted cruz as donald trump would say. I talked with him a few minutes ago. Ted cruz, again, very specific about what he would want to do but oddly enough donald trump is very short on the specifics. Deirdre kasich did speak on fox news about the likelihood of a contested convention. Heres his comment, and then i want to ask you a followup, ron, hold on. Nobody is going to have enough delegates. We are going to go to a convention. Its going to be open. Im very comfortable with heading to that convention with momentum and more delegates. And well let the people there make a choice. Deirdre so, ron, if we look, though, at the remaining delegates that are needed for nomination, kasich needs Something Like 105 . So mathematically impossible, which is why hes talking about the convention. But what does he need to do to stay in and show strength between now and cleveland in july . Well, very simple. He needs to continue to win more delegates, and he needs to continue to get his message out to the American People. He is relying a very sunny, very positive campaign, talking about how hell balance the budget. How hell promote a Strong National defense, and how hell stand strong with our allies. Look, theres no one of the three republicans at this juncture do i need theyre going to get to 1237 . No, they wont. But lets bac duong at 1932. Robert taft he was supposed to be the republican nominee. You know what . The republicans recognized we need to go with general eisenhower because hes the best candidate that can win. I think if you get to the convention, governor kasich will stand up and stand tall and folks will recognize this is the man who can win and beat secretary of state Hillary Clinton and become the next president of the United States. Thats what hes willing to do. Deirdre ron, how much is it hurting him, though, for example, mitt romney, mitt romney went and stumped for governor kasich. Hes been making robocalls for utah on behalf of senator cruz. Look, were not so much focused on what governor romney was doing. It was helpful for him to come out to ohio and support governor kasich and his track record of leadership. But he went out and said something in you told that, hey, i am supporting ted cruz. You need to vote for ted cruz. We are looking at what governor kasich will do for america. Not what governor romney, someone who has been a former governor and friend of mine is a is saying about other candidates. We are focused on his leadership and positive vision moving forward. Its not that much of a detraction or detriment to us. Romney will be a friend of ohio and friend in the future when kasich becomes the next president of the United States. Deirdre thank you for the time. Cheers. Deirdre ron christie with me there. Supporter of ron kasich. Well, donald trump tweeted last night cuban leader row youll castro has no respect for president obama. He tweeted wow obama just landed in kuhn cuba. A big deal. Castro was not even there. He greeted the pope and others. No respect. Also pointed out the flight yesterday. Hes landed in cuba and castro, or fidel castro, but the head of cuba wasnt there to greet him. Folks, what are we doing . What are we doing . Heres how a thing like that is supposed to work. Number one, he has his people call up say whos going to be greeting the president . If they say nobody, you dont go until somebodys there. The head of cuba who was there for the pope and he was there for other dignitaries that come in, but he wasnt there for the president of the United States. I mean we are amateur hour, folks. Obama should have turned the plane around and left. Im not knocking castro. If we can get away from this tough, its great. Make it a great deal. Deirdre back