Its a hoax, money making industry. About immigration . Im going to fight for comprehensive Immigration Reform with a pass to citizenship. John well rate the candidates on our liberty meter. Thats our show tonight. John tonight, we score the candidates. This shows Biggest Issue is liberty, the dignity of the individual. Are we the people left free to experiment . Invest . Live how we want . Help other the way we want to . To compare the candidates weve created this liberty meter. Tonights guest will weigh in on which candidates are best and worst for liberty. But that can be hard to figure out. When i ask you on social media, how would you rank the candidates in our liberty meter . I got unhelpful answers because everyone said basically, both candidates deserve a zero. On facebook, dave said put both in the red. Kevin walker tweeted and thats a good point, how do you rate someone who changes position so often . Not just trump, both candidates have flipflopped a lot. Hillary praises gay marriage, when she ran for the senate in a liberal state, she was asked by a liberal viewer. Recognize gay marriage . No. No . Okay. John eight years later said the same thing. I have not supported samesex marriage. I supported civil partnerships. John just three years later, she was for gay marriage. I support marriage for lesbian and gay couples. John of course during the three years Public Opinion did shift, she shifted along with it. I think she supported gay marriage all along, but was afraid it would hurt her chances of winning. Who knows . Hillarys changed position on lots of things. Gun control. The keystone pipeline. Socalled clean coal. Fracking, she was for it before she was against it. Her husbands crime bill, subsidies for ethanol. She was wisely against those until she got to iowa then she was for them. I could go on. You get the point. Whats remarkable is both trump and clinton constantly changed positions and hasnt seemed to hurt them. Trump opposes obamacare. This is unrepublican thing for me to say. Universal health care. I am going to take care of everybody. Who pays are in it . The government will pay for it. John the government will pay for it. Mr. Trump, whats your position on abortion . Im very prochoice. You would not ban it . No. John now hes prolife. He said he would punish women who get abortions, though he walked that one back. I suppose flopping is expected of politicians, but whats different about these two is they dont just flop, they make stuff up. Hillary is the expert at that. Asked why she wouldnt release all the emails on the server. They are too personal, private emails between bill and me. The server contains personal communications from my husband and me. John later, bill revealed he doesnt email. Only time i got on the internet i did two emails. John she just went onto the next lie, her dumbest one is what she said happen when she flew to bosnia. I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at airport, but instead we ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles. You recall hearing gunfire . When we were flying into bosnia, there was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to run to our cars. That is what happened. John only after the cbs news video showed what really happened, that there was a greeting ceremony. Here shes doing a photoop with an 8yearold girl. Did hillary stop talking about sniper fire. So when she says something, i dont know if its true, same for donald when it comes to issues since they change positions so much. Hard to tell what they really believe. On some issues, we think we know. And thats why Grover Norquist of americans for tax reform says there are reasons to choose donald over hillary, like what . Taxes are one of the ones john and what they specialize in. We asked not to raise taxes. Hillary clinton in the Campaign Said she wants to raise a trillion dollars in taxes. That shes been clear about. She wants to take away many of your personal deductions, 350 billion dollars. Many business deductions and credits raising business taxes, 275 billion, and 4 to 500 billion in taxing rich people. Whatever she defines as rich. Over a trillion dollars. Then six different kinds of capital gains, doesnt tell us how much that will raise taxes but make life more difficult, exit tax for people in rodeesia for people who try and leave. You have to pay a tax. John i havent heard that. Yes, exit tax. And a tax on stock trades so everybody will buy and sell stock in london and singapore and not new york. These are the six big ones shes talked about. She hasnt been as clever as her husband or obama. They said all during the campaign only to tax rich people. She has already broken down, when they said about what about taxing poor people who buy soda pop. In philadelphia, great idea, she was for that. When her opponent was suggesting he would have a tax on wages, bernie sanders, she said shed sign that, too. So Social Security taxes, wage taxes, for all people. Thats available. So all of these john shes being honest, maybe its refreshing compared to the guys who say they wont and try to. I think she is, shes being entirely honest. There isnt a tax shes run up against she wasnt for. Her husband said only rich people except taxing people who buy gasoline, and the first tax obama put in 16 days after he became president was cigarette smokers, average 40,000 a year plus the 7 taxes in obamacare that hit the middle class and the gasoline or energy tax he wants to put on everybody. When politicians say they want to tax the rich, they havent finished the sentence. Tax the rich first, then you. John hillary was asked if she supported a 25 sales tax for guns. Im all for that. I dont know what else were going to do to get some handle on this violence. John 25 . Gun costs 400 to start with, it would be 500. John i hadnt seen this clip before, you told us about it. It was testimony in 1993. Shes first lady. Being asked by then senator bradley from new jersey and specifically asked is it your opinion, and she says this is my opinion, not the administrations opinion, the white house put out a statement. This was her. This is where she is. We put together a website, high tax hillary. Com. So all of the taxes that video, all of the statements shes made on where she wants to raise taxes, high tax hillary. Com, keep track as the Campaign Goes on. John why are you higher on trump . We dont know what he would do, and hes promised to make the military bigger. Wont cut entitlements, increased spending is a form of a tax. True cost of government is spending whether you borrow or take it in taxes. We had 17 republicans running in the last election, and they all had very good tax reforming moving in the right direction. Trump was more aggressive in a couple of ways. 15 business tax, its 15 on business income. Weve been at the corporate level charging 35 federal, plus average of 4 state. So 39. John and companies hide their if they earn it overseas and want to bring it back, we tax it. We punish them for bringing it back. John so they keep it overseas. And build factories. We damage ourselves when we do that. John we supply siders believe that economy will grow faster with lower taxes, but why would we believe . First why believe trump, and with lower tax rates, if they ever happen, would the money even roll in . You can say under bush, they cut, revenue increased 4 , but clinton increased taxes and revenue went up 43 . Two things happened. Clinton did us a favor, he elected a Republican House and senate. The advantage we have if trump is the president is that he will sit across the table from paul ryan whos a jack kemp supply sider, and Mitch Mcconnell whos a Ronald Reagan tax cutter, and neither of them are going to say lets raise taxes from what you put forward. They may move it around a bit. If he puts tax plan on the table, something very close to it will be able to pass the house, the senate and be signed into law. John and you believe trump, though once he said i want a 14 onetime tax on rich people . Well, several things. He has said a number of things on tariffs and taxes in the past. Since hes focused running for president , hes been consistent on the direction he wants to go on taxes, and again, nothing gets done without the Republican House and the Republican Senate agreeing and most republicans, about 90 signed the Taxpayer Protection pledge. They wouldnt raise taxes for obama with the entire establishment pressuring them to do so. John the Taxpayer Protection pledge is something your group created and now most almost all the republicans promised not to raise taxes. Theyve signed the form. They keep it, and we havent had a net tax pass since 90. John people after them dont follow it. We speak cheerfully and suggest they not raise taxes. The good news is they dont want to raise taxes. When you raise the pledge, it strengthens the back bone, id love to do it, cant help you, sorry. John lets go to the liberty meter, rank clinton first 15 on taxes . Is one the lowest . John yes. Negative 1. John progrowth on the machine . And trump how would you . I would say 4 only because when he talks about tariffs sometimes, tariffs are taxes in american history. We had a revolutionary war on the subject, it was part of the conversation shooting each other in the civil war, hes moving in the right direction and working with the house and senate. Final product will be a 5. John boy, i hope youre right. Im skeptical. 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Anthony randazzo thinks he knows whos better, randazzo director of Economic Research foundation. Even though shes going to spend more money, shes not going to bankrupt the country in the process because shes going to tax us all into poverty so the federal government wont go bankrupt. At the same time, Donald Trumps plan is to spend more and tax less, the amount of debt will bankrupt and strangle the economy. John i havent heard him say hes going to spend more, hes going to make the military bigger and cut entitlements. What else . Defense spending and his trade policy is tacitly a spending plan because the tariffs on china . Going to raise unemployment, cause an increase in welfare programs and unemployment insurance, all of that winds up being a net negative and pouring of federal dollars. Tacit spending increases. John trump doesnt say he wants to spend more on college education, free preschool . Hillary clinton is using the government like her own personal hedge fund. She can invest in all the social things she wants. John heres a clinton spending promise you may not have heard. China is investing 180 billion to expand broadband. We cannot be left behind. By 2020 i want 100 of american households to have access to quality, affordable, highspeed internet. John and they applaud people like this. Im going to give you all fast internet, 180 billion. Somebody elses money. But it works. Shes the frontrunner. She wants to invest in energy, in childrens education, all of which can sound great if it is not your money. John internet and broadband is faster in other countries. Sure, if you start from nowhere and put the absolute best technology in the ground, youre in a better place. John we started first. It means a lot of the cable laid isnt as fast. That doesnt mean that the only solution to having everybody well connected is the federal government. John and i just noticed some reporting on countries that did really invest in this. Britains billion pound investment is off to a slow start. In the digital slow lane as a result of red tape. South yorkshire pulled the plug on broadband plan costing 150 million pounds. Government squanders this money. And one of the fastest places you can get internet is kansas city where internet is provided by google. John donald trump does Pay Lip Service to cutting spending. There is so much money to be saved. Were reducing taxes, but at the same time, if i win, if i become president , we will be able to cut so much money. John why are you down on him compared to hillary . I dont believe him. And hes demonstrated he doesnt know what hes talking about. He says were going to cut so much money. Where are you going to cut it from . John waste and abuse. No one thought of that before. Sure. And the departments hes focused on such as cutting waste, fraud and abuse from medicare, less than 1 of what expenses are. John even if it was a little bit more. Its not that waste, fraud and abuse alone is going to cover the 10 trillion in tax cuts he wants to propose. 10 trillion in tax cuts is great. If you cut it that much, it has to be with defense and entitlement spending. Since hes already taken those off the table, when he says im going to cut so much, he is completely full of crap. John all of the big money is in defense and growing entitlements. Any serious candidate that is serious about cutting spending has to start there. John and that is whats going to bankrupt america, medicare, Social Security, trump has promised he wont touch those programs, and when ted cruz responsibly called for partly privatizing Social Security, and raising retirement age for younger workers, trump told voters, ill protect you from this. Im going to save your Social Security, cruz wants to dut in half. John maybe hes running for office, hes a smart guys, knows what hes got to tell voters. Hell be responsible once hes elected. The trouble is hes not saying anything to get elected. The attitude which he approaches it, selfcentered and narcissistic to himself. So incredibly problematic and asinine that i just absolutely refuse to believe he is saying im going to protect everything and walk in and say sure, well cut Social Security by 50 . Not going to happen. John on our liberty meter, rate donald trump. A 1. I find it incredibly problematic, the idea any of candidate that wants to add that much debt to the federal government. No matter how great the tax pledge might be. John and Hillary Clinton . She at the very least is planning to pay for some of the things she wants to spend on. Purely on the issue of spending if we get into the tax issue, purely on the issue of spending, she wants to pay for some of the things shes going to spend on. John number 2 . Maybe a 2. John thank you, anthony randazzo. Next, war. War is the biggest threat to liberty. Leads governments to impose all kinds of limits on individual freedom. On the other hand, if were not safe, were not really free. Who is smarter about keeping us safe. Hillary or donald. Im the only one on the stage that said do not go into stage that said do not go into iraq, do not attack iraq. Jake reese, day to feel alive jake reese, day to feel alive jake reese, day to feel alive you stay up. You listen. You laugh. You worry. You do whatever it takes to take care of your family. And when its time to plan for your familys future, were here for you. Were legalzoom, and for over 10 years weve helped families just like yours with wills and living trusts. So when youre ready, start with us. Doing the right thing has never been easier. Legalzoom. Legal help is here. Intenselyflavored. Colorfullydiverse. Beautifullymisshapen. Cultivated for generations, its the unexpected hero of any dish. When you cook with incredible ingredients. You make incredible meals. Fresh ingredients. 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Im the only one on the stage said that do not go into iraq. Do not attack iraq. Nobody else on the stage said that. I said it loud and strong. John not so loud and strong. He didnt . He didnt. There is no evident he spoke out against the war beforeh