Trish yes, dea, thats correct. So robert, how exactly does Law Enforcement verifying a threat like this . Someone comes up to a Police Officer, says, hey, the guy that shot the other Police Officer he has got three accomplices, what do you do with that information . Keep in mind that investigation was already going on when the woman came up to the Police Officer. Police know he traveled to the middle east twice. He went to saudi arabia. He went to egypt. They know he involved in the mosque in philadelphia and has colleagues and associates there. This investigation was ongoing. They were looking at phone records and hard drive. They were doing search warrants. They were getting information from neighbors and family and other members of the community. This just added to the investigation. They will talk to the members of the neighborhood. They will be able to say who was he hanging out with . Who was his friends . They will look at phone records. They will talk with his family and put this all together. Is there conspiracy . Is there more than one person involved . Was he a loaner . Was he involved with these three other people . These are the questions. Trish to your point they should been doing this all along, once they had him in custody they should be going through all the records. The fact were hearing about this and woman came up to the Police Officer do you think he already suspected that . Are these things already they were looking into . Right, but it is helpful. Anytime you get outside information, youre looking at a vacuum, looking historical records, forensic, information, hard drive, phone records, things in the past. When you have someone comes up in real time, a witness says i have seen them communicating. I know he is in cahoots with these other three people. Whether or not theyre radicalized, how far along they are, whether or not they traveled to the middle east, she didnt have the information at the time. Clearly this is a good boost for the investigation. Trish robert, stay with me because we have a developing story i want to turn to right now. El chapo is behind bars but before he is captured by authorities, hollywood Actor Sean Penn secretly met with the drug lord in the mexican jungle. Penn details this encounter in a 10,000 word article in Rolling Stone. It is a pretty interesting piece. Now the secret meeting was brokered by a mexican soap opera stay, kate castillo. Lots of questions i have to say. First of all, how the heck did sean penn find el chapo when the mexican and u. S. Government could . Should sean penn have told the u. S. Authority what is he was doing . Was this even journalism . After all sean penn agreed to give el chapo final approval for his work, not a smart move with Rolling Stone which compromised its ethics because of that phony university of virginia rape story. This meeting between penn and he el chapo never produce ad formal interview. Penn sent questions and chapo taped responses. In the interview chapo makes it clear he had no choice but to go into the drug business. Listen. [speaking spanish] trish he also said that basically if he wasnt doing it, somebody else would. Joining me now with analysis of this, of this developing story and whether or not were going to see extradition for el chapo here to the United States of america, judith miller, criminal defense attorney brian claypool, who is also joining us and robert strang. You know, i will start with you again, robert because this is just incredible to me that a mexican actress and sean penn are able to travel to the depths of the jungle and find el chapo while Law Enforcement could not. Yeah, well, it shows you how big this billionaires ego is because he is someone who wanted his story told. He is someone that reached out for the actress and actor and was really part of his own capture because it was following them, their communication was able to get police close to him to make the arrest. So in a weird way this article, even though it came out the day after, you know, he was arrested clearly was responsible for his arrest. We have to thank sean penn, because if he hadnt done interview and hadnt followed through we would never have had him arrested. Trish brian claypool, what is the responsibility of someone like sean penn . Could u. S. Authorities or mexican authorities get him on the fact that, you know, he saw el chapo effectively before they did and he didnt report anything to them . Youre a defense attorney. Trish, the billion dollar question here is, was this a Hollywood Houdini act by sean penn and was it really journalism or was this obstruction of justice . I respectfully disagree with the prior comment. This interview took place in october, nearly, several months went by. El chapo was on his own. He could have killed other people and sean penn and Kate Dell Castillo did not report it to authorities. There are two possible crimes they face. They dont have blanket immunity because theyre allegedly journalists. One is accessory after the fact. They probably wont be charged with that. That requires sean penns trying to help el chapo avoid being prosecuted. Sean penn will say, look i was just doing an interview. The one that really applies, trish, should be applied to stop this from happening again, it is federal call, miss prison felony. Tantamount to obstruction of justice. The element where i think sean penn will have trouble the prosecution would have to show sean and kate concealed where el chapo was, they concealed this information from authorities and they knew he had committed a crime so trish i want to bring judy into this conversation too. What blurs all of this the fact that sean penn is not a journalist. He is an actor and you know, this sort of extraordinarily skeptical side of me, judy, kind of wonders, might he have been posing as a journalist because he wanted to team up with kate del castillo and her Production Company and actually maybe get access to el chapo to produce this of wonderful movie together . It is pretty bad if youre just the Production Company and youre going down there to produce a hollywood movie about el chapo and you dont report it to authorities. Somehow traveling under the guise the journalism makes it somewhat okay . You all kinds of protections supposedly against the law, being accused of various crimes youve been discussing here on this show. The fact of the matter this in this internet era, social media, it is harder and harder to tell who is a journalist and who isnt. Yes, sean penn, is an actor, an activist, but he also interviewed raul castro and other dictators of countries against american interests, whom he seems to like. Trish point out to the viewers, you have a very unique background, you have yourself interviewed pretty odious people. Trish you also protected sources and gone to jail for it. I wonder whether or not sunpenn would be willing to do that. As journalist, trish what offend me weve had 60 mexican journalists, real journalists die in the course of a decade trying to tell the story of the cartels and the Mexican Government and collusion between them. These are the people who are real journalists put their lives on the line every day and sean penn goes down there to do a scoop, definitely its a scoop. He has gotten something that no one else has gotten, but, instead of telling the truth, he has glorified this man. Trish youre right, judy, he has. From a substance standpoint its wrong. Trish i want to share with you the reason he is glorifying it man. Here is quote. Talks about el chapo charisma. Throughout my introduction, chapo smiles a warm smile. With a sevenhour sitdown i saw him without the smile only brief flashes, as notorious men he has indisputable charisma. As i raid this piece, wow, this is whole hollywood movie unfolding before my eyes. By the way a big part of it is Sean Penn Sean penn his travel into the depths of this jungle to meet el chapo, but you make a very good point that there are a lot of people have been lost throughout this, you know, tragic violence. How about the cops . Look at all the innocent people, all the cops that have been killed . This guy, were so lucky, i meant that tongueincheek a little bit, about sean penn actually making arrest. Think about the past even with chavez. Even through surveillance and other items he doesnt work through the state department. He is not a real journalist. It is easy for the government to follow him, intercept calls. We have to be careful about this because real journalists dont have to on obligation to be arm of Law Enforcement. Were under no obligation to report these things, but from human standpoint by the way im not sure mexicans really used sean penn to track down this guy. If i hadnt been able to find him and sean penn did i would say trish convenient excuse. Right. Im not sure ethics of this just reek. You dont submit an article like this for approval. Trish this is first thing you read when you read this piece, said that el chapo had to approve it. You think, in Rolling Stone, come on, Rolling Stone . After what it just went through with the university of virginia and that big phony story they made up. The rape that never happened. Trish that the editor would have more sense than that. Yes but jan winter defended piece that everyone else is just jealous they didnt get it. That Rolling Stone did nothing wrong how they handled it. I think most mainstream journalist was ace agree. Trish thank you, glad to have you here. Brian. Fox business debate this week, charleston, south carolina, this thursday starting 6 00 p. M. Where i will be along with sandra smith. Well be asking all the important substantive questions you need answered along with Maria Bartiromo and neil cavuto starting at 9 00 p. M. You can find out which candidate will take the stage on lou dobbs tonight. Lou dobbs is going to unveil all of it, at 7 00 p. M. Only here on fox business. Coming up violent protesters in germany after more than 600 attacks on women on new years eve. The Police Say Many of these felons are recent migrants from the middle east and from north africa. Now reports of attacks on women in sweden. That is next. Later, could Hillary Clinton lose to Bernie Sanders in both iowa and New Hampshire . Why a new poll shows the race for the democratic nomination is far from over. Stay with me. Trish as president obama prepares to give his 8th and final state of the Union Address tomorrow night, they announce that syrian refugee will be sitting with the first lady. The 55yearold fled syria in 2013 and cleared last month by authorities to live in detroit. This decision comes as republicans call for temporary halt on all Syrian Refugees coming into the our country. Adding to the complexity of this refugee question here at home, overseas, violent clashes broke out over the weekend over reports of now more than 600 complaints of assault against women across germany on new years eve. The government revealing that many of the then were recent my grants. Were now hearing from some of these victims, listen. Translator all of sudden these men around us began groping us. They touched our hinds and grabbed between our legs. They touched us everywhere. Translator they felt like they were in power and could do anything with the women who were out in the street partying. They would touch us everywhere. Translator i tried to somehow defend myself. I tossed my arm backwards. Because of that i almost fell down the stairs. There were some people there i was no longer in control of myself. Trish here with reaction retired Lieutenant Colonel ralph peters who lived in germany for several years. I know you speak german and youve been watching all the german reports that came out on this situation, colonel peters. What is your reaction . I also had a close relationship with the city of cologne on personal level. My reaction is we still dont get how big of a story this is in germany. The migrant crisis, Asylum Seeker crisis, call it what you will, it was already a front burner issue in germany but these events really shocked country. By the way, similar events took place in austria, sweden and finland on smaller scale. In germ germany there is no parallel in recent history. Since 1945 when Russian Troops went into berlin there hasnt been sort after aggravated Sexual Assault situation. In cologne, in small area about the size of times square, in space of three hours, alleged 550 attacks. Half of them overtly sexual in nature. Allegedly two public rapes. This shocked german consciousness has been enormous. It shifted immigration debate, shifted the middle to the right and it is going to go on for a long time to come, but the most, the most frustrating thing for the germans is that theyre discovering their liberal constitution doesnt let them get rid of these guys very easily. Their deportation measures make i. C. E. Look supremely effective and fast. They even have trouble charging these guys. Trish colonel, i think people are watching this unfold, what is wrong with these people . What is wrong with these men that they would do thissen mass . Do we think it was coordinated . Is there something culturally really dement demented and wrong they think they can attack women because a woman is dressed differently and appears different than what theyre used to . It is both. Given the fact we had these simultaneous events, these attacks in some cities, at least eight in germany alone on new years eve, all following same pattern, tells me they were coordinated by arab language chat room or somehow. We dont know how this is investigated. We though this happened before. Reports of this happened in sweden in 2015. Heard reports of this kind of stuff happening during the uprising in cairo with the arab spring. I mean extremely disturbing and now, go ahead, colonel. To answer the second part of your question, yes its horrify ing but we have to face up to the fact the civilization in the middle east is in collapse. On Oreilly Factor last week i made a mistake. I called this a clash of civilizations. It is not. It is civilization versus barbarism. Young males, semiliterate, young males of military age who would not work to fix to their own countries come to germany on the hustle. Theyre not as sill loom seekers. They bring their values that demean women and women are has half human as most. Their idea of western sexuality is formed by internet pornography. More than 60 are young males. Very few women coming together. Put them together with Cultural Values that do not match up this is not islammist terror. This is manifestation of export of the decayed Cultural Values of the middle east and we can not accept it. Trish it is absolutely horrible. Its a devastating story and colonel peter, i appreciate your analysis. Well continue watching it for everyone. Thank you. Trish coming up everyone, did Hillary Clinton break the law by directing a staffer to send classified material on unsecure fax line . The details of these emails bringing new allegations against the former secretary of state. We have that. New polls numbers showing rival Bernie Sanders is beating her in New Hampshire, when we return. At ally bank no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like reunions equal blatant lying. The company is actually doing really well on, on social media. Oh thats interesting. I i started social media. Oh it was my. Baby. At ally bank no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. Pinot noir, which means peanut of the night. Trish aides say Hillary Clinton will propose 4 surcharge income tax of anyone making over 5 million annually. This has the perform former first lady in virtual tie with her rife sal socialist Bernie Sanders. Clinton has a slight edge. Kind of a virtual tie. Sanders out in front in New Hampshire, 5046. Both polls are within the margin of error. This as we learn that the investigation into her private email use has expanded to examine whether the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation work and state Department Business may have violated corruption laws. We have our Political Panel here to help us decipher all of it. Progressive radio host chris hahn and mark serrano republican strategist. We have the latest on fbi investigation with catherine herridge. Catherine . Reporter investigation into the exclusive use of private emails secretary of state has two tracks, one focused on classified material found on personal server an comingling of Clinton Foundation and state Department Business potentially violated corruption laws. Fbi agents are investigating possible intersection of donations between Clinton Foundation dispensation of state department contracts and whether regular processes were followed. According to one of three sources spoke to fox news on condition of anonymity. Fox news was also told that fbi agents will be quote, screaming if a prosecution is not pursued because many previous public Corruption Cases have been made in successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is apparently emerging in this investigation. With the latest state Department Email dumb, the