Even the pope. Will this hurt or help the donald. Microsoft and google coming out in full support for apple. Standoff between National Security and privacy putting Tech Companies against the government. Libertarian ron paul on what he believes apple should do. I have a feeling well not see eyetoeye on this. New polls, people are increasely feel the bern. Is america turning its back on free market capitalist heritage, the very thing that made us the most prosperous nation the world has ever seen . President obama skipping Justice Scalia funeral on saturday. What is so important that the president cant be there. We all want to know. The president has said that he is not always as sensitive as he should be on optics. Can you rule out him going golfing on saturday instead of the funeral. I dont have a sense of what the president s plans are for saturday. Trish we hope he is not golfing. Plus president s meeting today with black lives matter activists later on in the show. Security fears, highly alert right now. Dangerous Radioactive Material stolen from iraq. There are some concerns it could be used as with by isis. Swedish women meanwhile are reduced to setting up voluntary groping guards it public pool areas to prevent assault of young women by muslim migrants. All the stories for you. I want to get back to the battle on the campaign trail, the pope versus donald trump. Pope was just in mexico speaking to the people there, apparently annoying donald trump. You know trump, if you come after him he will come back and the pope sort of did. Saying anyone who focuses only on borders is not christian. In response trump says, he would be so tough on isis that you know what . The pope would probably really want to make sure he is in office. Listen to him here. If and when the vatican is attacked by isis, which is everyone knows is isiss ultimate trophy, i can promise you that the pope would have only wished and prayed that donald trump would have been president. Trish republican strategist ford oconnell, progressive radio show host chris hahn joining me right now. Good to see you guys. My gosh, weve seen donald trump versus a lot of people. Now donald trump versus the pope. Ford, dont forget a lot of americans really like the pope. Is this commentary going to hurt or help trump right now . I dont think it will hurt trump at all particularly among republicans. Americans are split on role of pope francis and republicans find him to be too political. Pope francis doesnt understand problems with open borders. Say this, the popes job save all souls and president s job comes in conflict with the popes job, protect america, her citizens and its border. In other words while on earth american souls come first for the president of the United States. Trish ford is saying basically he doesnt think it is going to hurt him. There may be a case to be made, chris hahn, it could actually help him. In other words he will not let anyone say get away with saying anything against donald trump. Part of the population likes that and responds to that. Donald trump is not only one saying lets build a wall. Ted cruz is saying he wants to build a wall. Ted cruz is appealing to evangelical vote supposed to be followers of christ. Matthew 25, when i knocked on the door, did you let me in . That is what the pope is saying. I dont know it is attack on donald trump. Nothing has hurt donald trump politically. Everything has helped him. I dont see why this would be anything different. One thing we have to separate the republican president ial primary from the general election. If in trump becomes nominee on republican side we can revisit that. In republican primary, Republican Voters are not so keen. This is not john paul ii. This is not cardinal rad singer. Pope francis is seen way too political. Pope francis, in my opinion, is the First Christian pope weve had in my lifetime. The man is out there. He is actually teaching, following teachings of christs no matter who it offends. You feel that way on abortion chris . Slow down. I dont agree with him on everything. Trish you may like him because he is talking a lot of socialist type stuff these days. Talking like christ. Trish capitalism really isnt a system that works in his view. You know how i feel about that. I think youre a capitalist, chris. I am. Trish all right. So i know how you feel about that too. This is pope four points out has gotten extremely political and that doesnt well with a lot of people, ford. No, it doesnt. It doesnt sit well and part of this reason is because where the pope is from. He is from south america. They dont see capitalism same way they do. It is really corporatism. When it comes to climate change, whole host of issues this, is truly activist pope. He is. Who am i to argue with the holy father, with that said i have to look at it from american perspective. Trish who are you to argue with the holy father but apparently donald trump is willing to do it. You know what . Im a Firm Believer in the separation of church and state. What the pope is saying is what the christian bible says. He is not saying what, what the state should be doing. That said, if youre going to seek evangelical votes, you want to build a wall, thats great but you have to have a path to get people here who need to come here, want to come here. Only one put forward on that republican side is marco rubio. He disavowed it. This is not amnesty argument. This is not amnesty argument this is not at all. The pope is not the president of the United States, okay . His job is to save souls. The president s job is to protect american souls first while on earth. That is just the bottom line. Tough for republicans. Try to have it both ways. Talk to you guys in a little bit. Dont go anywhere. I want to turn to the other big story were covering today, thats google and microsoft now declaring their support for apple in showdown between privacy rights and National Security. Apple defying a federal court order to unlock one of the San Bernardinos terrorists, syed farooks smartphone. Former congressman ron paul, host of the Ron Paul Liberty report, he joins me now with more on this. Representative paul, good to see you. Thank you. Nice to be with you. Trish you are on the side of the Tech Companies here. You think apples doing the right thing. Why . Well, i wouldnt say im on the side of the Tech Companies per se but i think the Tech Companies right now are on the side of liberty or on the side of the people who would like to have their encryption protected. Encryption is there to protect people against illegal snooping and to honor the constitution. Trish even in the case of terrorism . Well, this has nothing to do with the theyre repretending, that is the excuse. What we have to do is protect privacy of dead terrorist that is what this is all about. This is for mandating for apple to produce a product at their expense and use Law Enforcement agency to do something that, that apple deliberately provided for the consumer because after the, the revelation of all the snooping of the government, people were very worried about it. Snowden gave us great help in telling us what the government was really doing. I think protection of privacy is the big issue. For them to say, well, yeah, well, we have to bend it a little bit to protect us, you know, Law Enforcement and punish crime but what about how much bending do they do with the constitution . Thats the part that is really at fault here. Trish let me you are in favor of someone going and getting or Law Enforcement getting a court order to wiretap someones phone if they believe they have substantial evidence this person is a threat to the community. Right. Trish threat to society, Law Enforcement can go proper procedures. Youve been advocate of proper procedures. How is that, representative paul, any different . This is a lot different. Trish go through procedures and get ability to wiretap someones phone . If you have proof someone commit ad terror attack, shouldnt you be automobile to also unlock their phone just as you would tap their. . This is entirely different. This isnt taking the phone looking at material. This is telling appeal they have to produce a program that deactivates they built something into the system for millions and millions of people that people want and paid for this. Is simple than a simple subpoena and simple search warrant. Trish what if the government says well pay for it, apple, well pay for you to do it . That would be a sellout too. Still mandating if the government wants this, go do it. Trish they need coordination and help of apple. They cant create apple overnight. They would need apple to work with them. That is called conscription. That is called slavery you will do this or else well put you in jail. That is conscription. Besides, besides theyre on the side of the right thing. Theyre, more people should look at this like Second Amendment because you know, Second Amendment is there to protect us against tyranny and against our government. That is why they wrote the Second Amendment. This is why we have the fourth amendment. This is what this is doing. Like the Second Amendment is saying, yes, your privacy is very important. The government doesnt have a right to snoop on us constantly. And they cant impose a special case in order to get wait a minute. Trish people . Well, this is the excuse, this is the excuse because they want the lock and the key to do this, you know, eternally on everybody. You say, oh, no, this one case. Trish i think that is important distinction. Im with you. If you suddenly said now the government has ability to check all of our phones, representative, then no one would be in favor of that. But if this is simply a situation they already do it. Trish where the court would have to get order go to the company saying okay, we want to unlock this phone because this person we believe is real threat to society or this person already has been a threat to society as we saw in San Bernardino, why shouldnt a company be willing to work with the government for that . I think apple has been willing to the work and to the point where they were forced to produce a product they not was not only illegal and not good for the people and contradicts everything they do with their product. This is the excuse. Somebody killed and had association. They have been wanting to do this for years. Sort of like the patriot act. The patriot act was sitting around for years. As soon as 9 11, oh, we can get the patriot act passed. All these laws never do any good. They cost trillions of dollars let me finish. Only helps big government. It helps tyrants who want to control us. Trish you know, it helps apple who is trying to say look were all about privacy. Notice they started doing this after snowden. This has been their whole campaign. Certainly good mark connect campaign from that standpoint. But that aside, representative, were living in a very different time than 1776. Back when you had to take a ship to come over here to be a threat. We have people can be threats among us an connecting via social media, terror organizations meetings online. What responsibility should Corporate America being playing in this right now as government is trying to fight the people that want to kill us . You asked me the question, why do they want to kill us . All this activity, all determine naics, they never say why they want to kill us. There is a reason nobody checks into it. Trish now youre going out dwindling terrorist. Please let me, please let me finish between 2005 and 2015 there were 24 americans killed by theoretical jihadists and we knew 50 people a night in terrorism in our own cities. So this is all done to design and control, magnify the size of federal government and undo the constitution. Theyre doing a very good job. It is all done out of fear and innuendo. Besides trish when 3,000 people died in new york city is not fear and innuendo. Now look trish people are, San Bernardino that is not fear and innuendo, that is real, congressman. Give me a chance to answer then. Thats why we wanted to find out and many of us clearly understand why 9 11 occurred. So we did a 9 11 commission report. And they found who was behind all this. So they redacted 28 pages in the American People dont care and you dont care and politicians dont care because they want to hide it because there is revelation in that report that tells the American People exactly who motivated these people to come and kill us and what is the cause. But no, every time there is a murder in the street trish i dont think we should being blaming ourselves for that one. Nobody asks what the motivation is of the terrorists. Trish thank you very much. Ron paul. From the Ron Paul Liberty report. All right, everyone. Coming up. Highlydangerous Radioactive Material stolen in iraq. The Intelligence Community worries it could be used as a weapon by isis. Plus this is sad. Has it actually come to this . Woman voluntarily sets up patrol groups in their homeland of sweden to stop muslim migrants from raping and assaulting women there. All this after this. You both have a perfect driving record. Perfect. No tickets. No accidents. 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Joining me with intel on this fox news security analyst, kt mcfarland and Lieutenant Colonel ralph peters. Good to see both of you. Kt, starting with you here, it is clear if isis has the ability to do this, they will use it, meaning chemical weapons. Sure. It is chemical weapons, yes. It is also radiological weapons which is a dirty bomb. Would isis we know isis has been trying to get their hands on chemical weapons as well as radiological materials. There is no doubt they would use it. They probably already have used it. With the radiological weapons that is not nuclear weapon, that is not Mushroom Cloud or big nuke. What that is conventional weapon with radiological material stuffed inside, when that regular weapon, car bomb, truck bomb, goes off, Radioactive Material is spewed all around. That is terrifying. Trish what is the threat to us, colonel peters . What is the threat to the western world, to europe right now when it comes to some of this radio tack tiff material and chem bombs they may have access to . Chemical bombs are not immediate threat to europe. Theyre being used into syria where they need them. As far as radiological weapons, weapons,kt describes them very, very weld. Theyre hard to wield and hard to transport. You might well have them spew with a car bomb, spew Radioactive Material around the vatican or downtown paris. It would be a real problem and real mess but its a real terror weapon. But we have to maintain our perspective. Without weapons of mass destruction Islamic State has done a great job at mass destruction. Overwhelmingly up to 470,000 People Killed in syria alone have been killed by guns and knives and bombs. Trish let me turn to the other big story on the International Front today and thats coming out of sweden today and its news women are voluntarily setting up antigroping patrols at swedens public pools. So, by antigroping, i mean, they have got, big issue. Weve been all over this story, both with kt and the colonel, with men groping young women at these pools, these public pools in sweden. So bad they have to put up these pamphlets with a bid red x through a mans hand telling him not to do this. Now kt, women are taking this upon themselves. Where is the state in all this . Why arent they helping. The state is in the other direction. The state is opening door, saying come right on in. Even germany has yet to close the doors. Whatever immigration, my grant crisis is now, it is about to get a whole lot worse. There could be eight million coming this year. Theyre young, muslim, male. They dont a simulate and dont have jobs. A lot of countries are trying to put up a border saying dont come here, go there. As a result you could see within a year, hundreds of thousands of young muslim males stateless roaming around europe. Trish wow. I shared this with a viewer yesterday, colonel, but i want to bring it to your attention because i think about parent in europe right now. I was over there as 18yearold student in as you via and it was very very safe austria. I cant imagine having, being a parent with your young daughter there. I cant imagine what it is doing to the culture. Let me share with you what a father wrote to the state. This is austrian daughter, my daughter is 16yearolds it te