Transcripts For FBC The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan

FBC The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan March 6, 2017

27th, the date of the original order. Also for the next 120 days, we will not be accepting refugees from any countries. You know, this is very important because we have also just learned that the fbi is investigating more than 300 refugees who are already here in this country for possible ties to terrorism. Meanwhile, attorney general Jeff Sessions says hes confident the new order is, indeed, lawful. Watch. The department of justice believes that this executive order, just as the First Executive order, is a lawful and proper exercise of president ial authority. The executive is in em oured under empowered under the constitution and by congress to make National Security judgments and to enforce our immigration policies in order to safeguard the american public. Trish joining me right now with his thoughts, jay jordan sekulow. Will this revised order face any legal hurdles specifically from the the ninth sir or cut . I think so, and heres why. The aclu has already sent out emails to their membership, and we monitor that closely, saying that they are going to fight this ban in court, that they will bring this, quoteunquote, ban i think its a pause because were talking about 90 and 120 days, but, yes, were going to see some legal action. Its more difficult for a state Like Washington to to come up with standing here because its very clear on visa holders, on lawful permanent residents, on people who have already got a visa and already traveled to the u. S. , people who are students, and it goes through a whole list of people who are waiverred, they can apply for waivers from the temporary pause as well. And were talking about six countries plus refugees. Refugees wasnt really, didnt come up much in the legal arguments yet that weve seen, but i expect, absolutely, were ready for a legal challenge here. Trish you mentioned the aclu, im going to get to Chuck Schumer and what he has to say ant this because i do want to talk about the political angle, but lets get back to sort of the legal aspect in terms of whether or not its going to stand up. The criticism on the first round was that he was rather hasty, his team rushed it out, and while the intentions may have been good, they didnt dot all the is and cross all the ts. This time is it different . It is different. I mean, i said on your broadcast, trish, after this started going through the Court Systems it would be better to issue a new executive order that was cleaner, and its because the courts seized on a couple of areas that this new executive order clears up. Trish specifically where . Did not take for granted the white House Counsel stating this didnt apply to lawful permanent residents and visa holders. Though they did issue that later, the white house, they said that wasnt enough. It is in the order now, and i think thats right. It also doesnt get into the ban on Syrian Refugees indefinitely. Nothing in this order says you have to let everybody in after 120 days who are refugees, but it doesnt make these statements that you dont need the as well as just saying specifically that were going to look for christians. Its great to look for people who are religiously persecuted, we do a lot of that work at the aclj. You can do that administratively, you dont need to out that in the executive order. And the effective date, no one can say theyre confused on when this goes into effect. Trish thats very true, and that was one thing that was confusing initially. Let me share with you Chuck Schumers statement, you mentioned the aclu sending out an email. He says this is, quote, a watereddown ban is still a ban. This makes us less safe, not more. It is meanspirited and unamerican. I fully expect this executive order to have the same uphill climb in the court that is the previous version had. Thats what i take issue with, meanspirited and unamerican. Youre talking about six countries that have been known to be hotbeds for terrorist activity. Shouldnt our goal be to keep americans safe . Wouldnt it be meanspirited to invite people to this country, that would infrequent harm . This is not a muslim ban. Second, were already seen how the First Executive order may not have survived in court, and it was ultimately rescinded here, but it encouraged iraq to work closer with us. The government of iraq said we dont want to be on this list, how can we trish but what im getting at here, jordan, is hes talking about being meansirteed and unamerican and i dont think theres anything meanspirited or unamerican in this in that we are doing our darnedest to protect our own people. Thats right. Its a piece of the puzzle, trish, in trying to protect americans. Its not going to stop all terrorism, and it doesnt mean we dont have the threat. We know 300 out of 1,000 counterterrorism investigations going on right now this our country as you said in the opening of the show, 300 of those involve refugees. We have to take what we can do lawfully. And what i think here is most important, regardless of what a circuit a District Court judge does or the ninth circuit, i feel a lot more confident taking this all the way to the u. S. Supreme court trish all right. Well, thats a critical thing because that may have to happen if we see a repeat from the ninth circuit. Jordan, good to see you. Thank you very much. Another big story, of course, were following, President Trump saying president Obama Wiretapped him during the 2016 election. And now the Trump Administration is demanding an investigation. Heres what Kellyanne Conway had to say about it. As part of the house intention and Senate Intelligence Committee Investigations into possible russia connections which, of se, have not been p proven, the president would just like this to be part of that investigation, that the committees would use their Oversight Authority to see whether or not this, in fact, happened. We know that there was a lot of political motivation, a lot of politically motivated investigations and stories and activities during the campaign, and he would like this to be incorporated as part of the investigation. Trish in other words, why not have an investigation into everything . I want to go to Blake Burr Beman for the very latest right now. Reporter hi there, trish, and sean spicer is meeting with members of the media as we speak, i just got out of there a couple minutes ago, and here are the few headlines that we can tell you as it relates to this. First, mr. Spicer was just asked whether or not President Trump has spoken with james comey, the director of the fbi, and spicer says it is of his knowledge at least at in this point that those two have not spoken. It is the reporting of fox at point that the fbi director comey was part of the push or at least senior members of the fbi were part of the push over the weekend to have the president s claims publickingly refuted. Headline number one. Secondly, spicer was asked about what the president says about all of this on this day. The press secretary says he has spoken with the president , and the president is still pushing for a congressional investigation into his claims that he was wiretapped, that there was a wiretap potentially at trump tower during the 2016 election. Chris stuart is a member of the house intelligence committee, he appeared on neil cavutos show earlier this afternoon and says whatever happens, right now there is grandstanding going on on both sides of the aisle, and he says that investigation should take place behind closed doors. Listen. Its best done behind closed doors. Let us do this work and then come back and report to the american people. Because right now theres an awful lot of political grandstanding going on, and i just dont think its helpful. Reporter however, a democrat on that committee, joaquin castro, a congressman in his own right, tweeted out the following this afternoon saying, quote President Trump should back up his wiretapping claim immeately alogize to president obama and the nation. Ive seen no evidence. Says the House Intel Committee member. By the way, trish, that briefing is ongoing, as i mentioned, with sean spicer right now, and he says President Trump also wants an investigation from congress to look into all of the leaks surrounding many of the storylines with this. Spicer calling them, quote, pervasive leaks. Trish . Trish yeah. Understandable that he would want that. Its difficult to do your job when people are conspiring from within to potentially take you down. Anyway, keep us updated, blake. Thank you so much, blake burman. Joining me right now for more analysis, former cia officer buck sexton and fred weiss. Given your experience in the intelligence community, you will have a unique perspective on this. Buck, first of all, your reaction to this entire story that began unfolding in 3d on saturday morning. Well, one thing is just the immediate media response to this was, i think, very telling. On the one hand, you had people saying, well, we need to wait, theres no evidence. We shouldnt be Going Forward with this narrative or even reporting on this. Afterweeks and weeks, month really of reporting on Donald Trumps ties to russia as some part of trish despite no evidence on that front. And this is a willingness in the media at large to believe theres a massive, International Trump Russia Kremlin serious to throw the previous election still with zero evidence, but based on the New York Times own reporting which was accepted at least when it came out in january, there were supposed to be intercepts, signals intelligence gathered that proved there were these shady connections between Trump Officials and russian officials in some capacity. Nobody refuted that then because it was part of this narrative. Now people are pointing out, hold on a second, wouldnt that mean and theres actually some evidence in the New York Times piece itself that this was a counterintelligence investigation, techniques of spying, not of Law Enforcement, were used to look at the private communications of Trump Officials . Maybe trump himself. Trish thats right. Why is that a crazy story . Is why does that not deserve more investigation . Trish well, donald trump is demanding that, in fact, it does. Of course. Trish so from that perspective, you can undersnd how he must feel. Nonetheless, fred, you know, people are flipping out on the left saying this is a crazy accusation. Let me ask you about your sense of whether it could, in fact, happen. I mean, given your understanding of how intelligence be communities work, is it possible that there was some kind of warrant allowed to be able to intercept these communications regardless of whether they existed or not based on some fears that were being circulated in the media that, in fact, his campaign folkses did have some relations with russia . Well, trish, what i think were seeing here are all these technical and legalistic objections to what the president said. The president cant use the word wiretap even though the New York Times always uses this, the president , president obama didnt formally ask for a fisa warrant, the fbi didnt actually physically wiretap trump tower. What we have here is an effort by a president ial administration to use intelligence to surveil the president ial candidate of another Administration Just trish you really think that happened then, fred . I think it happened in a variety of ways. I think they tried to abuse Court Warrants to gather information against mr. Trump, and we know this from all this rest reporting. All these wiretaps, New York Times quotes wiretaps. I also believe information was collected under the guise of gathering information about russia when it really was intended to gather damaging information against Trump Officials that could be leaked to news media. Trish so in your view then, this is something that was motivated by the political arm of the west wing . These investigations that were not based on real fears, but on politics . I think it was all about politics, and i think its very interesting that there was this incredible interest by the fbi to investigate trump and his associates, but there was no interest in investigating much more troubling concerns about Hillary Clinton and bill clintons ties to russia. If this this isnt a coincidence. This is all about politics, it was about damaging mr. Trump. Trish well, the fbi is asking the Justice Department to refute this now, but would you anticipate or expect that, buck, if in fact theres any shenanigans going on . Just a few weeks ago there was reporting that the department of justice despite letting the white house though the story wasnt true, they wouldnt weigh many. Doj is probably going to take the same perspective. I agree with all of freds points about how this is getting down into the minutiae, youve got people saying obama doesnt order it, well, of course, thats really irrelevant. But you look at the initial reporting that led us to this point, and it seems to be unless you believe the New York Times is making this up entirely were saying this was a counterintelligence investigation meaning it used the techniques of spying which go outside traditional fourth and fifth amendment protections. Its a lot more leeway trish okay. If someone actually believed not for political purposes, but if they really feared that the russians were in tight with the Trump Campaign and they needed to get this kind of intelligence, they would need to get a warrant from a fisa warrant, would they not . What we would need to know and what i think we should know at this point because we would though if it were out there, why was there this strong belief that somebody was acting as a russian agent this is not just connections, unsavory talk if it was, in fact, a fisa warrant, the guidelines are very clear, it is acting as an agent of a foreign power. Where is the evidence for that up to this point . Trish well, yeah a former white house senior aide to obama that there must be something there because if they did this, there must be something there. Trish i hear ya, because we were saying this during the time when it was all unfolding. Everybody keeps talking about this. They have no specifics. It was just a bunch in some way it felt like hearsay you have illegal leaks already of general flynns phone call to the russian ambassador. How did that information get out there . Its from somebody with access. So theyre willing to play that dirty theyll break the law, its a federal felony whoevers leaking this information. I think if there was this smoking gun evidence somewhere to justify a fisa tap, we would know what that information is already, thats why theres a bit of a panic, because if they did in the without the necessary precondition of having real evidence, this was for, as fred said, purely political evidence. Trish by the way, our new president is calling everyone out on it. Go ahead, last thought, fred. The first and also the first fisa warrant was turned down. Remember that. The first fisa warrant. Trish yes. After it was turned down, this was according to the New York Times on february 14th, fbi asked nsa to viewpoint nice communications of ukrainian officialings. Wow, the fisa warrant was turned down because it was unjustified, and then the fbi said to, this sa, give us what youve got on manafort. Theres a lot of smoke here. Trish were going to keep following it. Thank you so much, buck and fred, good to have you guys here. Lets get to another one here, democrats pouncing on the allegations of the wiretappiing what if president is right . What if fred and buck are right and he was wiretapped by the Obama Administration . What does that mean . Its not good. On any level. Weve got it next. Hey gary, what are you doing . Oh hey john, im connecting our brains so we can share our amazing trading knowledge. Thats a great idea, but why dont you just go to thinkorswims chat rooms where you can share strategies, ideas, even actual trades with market professionals and thousands of other traders . I know. Your brain told my brain before you told my face. Mmm, blueberry . Tap into the knowledge of other traders on thinkorswim. Only at td ameritrade. Trish jumping in on President Trumps claim that the Obama Administration tapped his phones during the 2016 election, they say the whole thing is made up. Indeed, top democrat Chuck Schumer is actually accusing the president of spreading rumors and false information. Here he is on meet the press just yesterday. Watch. Either way, chuck, the president s in trouble. If he alwaysly spread this kind of falsely spread this kind of misinformation, that is so is wrong, its beneath the dignity of the presidency. On the other hand, if its true, its even worse for the president because that means that a federal judge independently elected has found probable cause that the president or people on his staff have, had roll cause to have broken the haw or to have interacted with a foreign agent. Trish i mean, if its not true, then and no wiretap was actually issue. , then what were they looking at in the first place just a who bunch of smoke and mirrors leaked to the media as we were just talking about with fred and buck. Joining me now, Leslie Marshall and ned

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