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Be the president of the United States. Hillary clinton. That is a book where you changed your position on immigration. You used to support a path to citizenship. So did you. But you changed the book. So did you, marco. All but one of the republican president ial hopefuls face off in des moines, front runner donald trump a last minute no show, offering the rest of the field to make their voices heard before the allimportant monday caucuss. I have had more 2 00 a. M. Phone calls that everybody here put together, making life and death decisions. I dont think have you to give up your liberty for a false sense of security. There is the establish lane, antiestablishment lane, then, the kasich lane. If im the nominee well defeat Hillary Clinton and turn this country around after seven years of the disaster that is barack obama. The republican candidates have made more than 300 trips to the state combined, and if history is an indicator, many iowa votes are still up for grabs. Making this night perhaps the most important of all. So who impressed . The caliphate of isis has to be destroyed. Have a nofly zone in syria. I will apologize to nobody for the vigorousness for which i will fight terrorism, go after isis, hunt them down and utterly destroy isis. Barack obama wants america to be like the rest of the world. We dont want to be like the rest of the world. We want to be the United States of america. And that is why Hillary Clinton can not win this election. Frank luntz and his focus group are here, and well speak with ted cruz, fresh from the debate stage and well have all star analysis. The kelly file starts right now. And hello again from des moines, different location, but still here, moments ago, seven of the Top Republican president ial contenders faced off for the final time before the iowa caucuses. The candidates addressed what is wrong with washington, addressed illegal immigration, the threats from isis, social issues and their own inconsistent statements. But perhaps one of the biggest stories of the night, not their attacks on one another, but on Democratic Front runner, Hillary Clinton. Charles krauthammer is with me now, charles, your thoughts. Hello there. I am ready for your question. I thought this was a very interesting evening because the absence, well, i dont say why. There was a very spirited debate, much more substantive than any other and there was almost none of the earlier debate. It did not having to do, i thought with the kind of personal level we heard before. Ill leave it to the viewers to figure out why. Secondly, i thought it was interestingly the best night that jeb had in all of the debates and i might say he might have had the best night of the group in this debate. He was very strong. He had one moment where he kind of flipped back to marco rubio on the question of immigration. Kind of a reversal. I had that. Yes. We have that. Yes. Lets take a listen then well get your thoughts. Yes. Interesting that jeb mentions the book. That is the book where you changed your position on immigration. You used to support the path to citizenship. So did you, marco. When you led the charge with the gang of eight you supported it because you asked me to. There is never going to be a perfect bill. But when you didnt do that, and you asked people to support, you shouldnt cut and run. Just stick with it. That is what happened. He cut and run. That is a tragedy. But, megyn. There is not going to be any consensus on this issue unless we enforce our immigration laws. Go ahead, charles. What i find ironic here, rubio turned strongly against bush. I thought this is one debate where bush did very well. I thought in his own way, christie did well. He has a way of coming in after the others and arguing and rising above it and saying this is why you need to do it, etc. , when he had that line about you need a dictionary to explain washington speak into ordinary english, setting himself aside. He didnt have a soaring moment, but i thought he did well. Cruz and rubio were the most interesting. Each of them had their moments. Cruz had a rocky start when attacking you, the moderators for trying to cause arguments debate between you. The crowd was not very appreciative of that. Rubio had his rockiest night. I think on immigration, the contradiction of what he said a few years ago and now, he had a hard time arguing out of that box. My own view on that was why, why is it, why would you not show the audience what he said in his own words . Why is it more effective for anchors so sit there and repeat it . Well make sure its in context and fair, and it is something. The video portion is something to see them on camera saying the things and then, having to explain them. There is no question that senator rubio has flipped on this issue significantly and it is a problem with him for a lot of g. O. P. Voters. You showed for cruz, he came out for legalization, which he now says was a sham, and didnt mean it. Cruz, im not sure his argument is a better one but he made a better one tonight and wiggled out of it with slightly more finesse and a sense of conviction than rubio did in explaining the way his contradictions. So it was an interesting array. I thought, i mean, i have a lot of affection for rand paul, i disagree with him more on the issues than other candidates but does show libertarianism as a critique of the main stream conservatism, i dont think he affected his standing but having him on the stage was an addition. What did you think of ted cruzs manner . Normally, he gets in there and fights for air time. Normal live. Maybe not less so . I thought so. I think this wasnt i tried to go the whole segment without saying his name. But im going to fail. I think in the absence of trump. You should feel free. Because i think there wasnt that presence hanging over him. And remember, among the field on the stage, he was a front runner. So he was sort of wanting to sit more on his lead than he would if trump were there. I thought one of the mostinteresting aspects of the debate is how Little People went after trump. The only one who did, and i thought it was a nicelydelivered hit was by jeb. He came out against the demonization of the other, particularly muslims in response to the immedia to the video that had been shown on you tube. And i thought he made a forceful defense of his position on how to act in, with isis in the middle east. Particularly since the question had kind of a hook on it. Mentioning the failures of his brothers policy in the middle east. He side stepped it and i thought he handled it very well. Charles, great to see you. My pleasure. Well, at the end of the night, the candidates wanted to do well. And that is essentially, this is a Job Interview for them, right . Voting beginses on monday, they want to have George Washingtons job. What we care about is what the voters think. Pollster frank luntz put together a focus group in iowa, zeroing in on issues that matter most. Joining me now, frank luntz and his focus group, hi, frank. Megyn, you asked probably the toughest questions of the debates, gave the candidates no room to wiggle. You pressed them. And he responded. I want to begin with the mostimportant and impactful most of the debate. Your challenge of marco rubio, and watch how well he did on immigration. Take a look. It was. Were not going to round up and deport 12 Million People but were not going around handing out citizenship cards, either, it will not be unconstitutional executive orders like the ones barack obama forced on us. What is your reaction . I want to show the audience at home how many of you walked in here supporting marco rubio . Raise your hands . Three of you. How many of you are going home most likely to vote for rubio. Raise your hands . That is the impact of a single debate. Describe rubio. Organized. President ial. Powerful. Prepared. Eloquent. Game changer. Electable. Attractive opportunist. Explain what you saw tonight. You dialled two hours worth. What did you see . He was honest and believable. And didnt berate the other candidates on stage. He was positive and put hillary in her spot as far as computers and benghazi. What was it . Tell me . He is articulate but tells it like it is. Hes very believable. He doesnt start attacking other people, other than hes staying on the game plan. Hes in the worried about negatives. Youre the youngest person in this room. Were you able to vote in the last election . Yes. I was. This will be your second time. Is it because rubio is younger . What attracts you to him . No. Not because hes younger, its because hes aspirational. You know when hes going to do something, its going to be what he says. He is honest and seems like he has a vision for this country. I have to tell you very few people feel that way about politics. They see it as negative. They dont think anyone is honest. But, megyn, this is the highest test of the night. This is the highest test. When marco rubio showed a little bit of humor and respect for american heros, the dials just went through the roof. I think Bernie Sanders is a good candidate for president. Of sweden. We dont want to be sweden. We want to be the United States of america. And Hillary Clinton is disqualified for being the commander in chief of the United States. That is why hes going to come across as a guy hard for the democrats to attack and most electable. Is he the most electable . Yes. I think he does appeal to a lot of folks. There was unsurety with back and forth with the immigration thing, he continued to put the focus on hillary, which i like. When they got back and forth between each other, i didnt care for that. When they started to differentiate themselves with opposition, i thought he made marks. How many of you think marco rubio can defeat Hillary Clinton . Raise your hands. How many of you think he will be the nominee . Weve got a way to go. Here is the question everybody wants the answer to, was donald trump impactful in his not being on air . Youre going to get a surprising reaction. Whether he made a mistake and how it impacted other candidates who did participate. All right. Thank you very much. Well be back to you in a bit. Also ahead, one of the candidates you just saw on stage is here, on his way to share thoughts after leaving the stage. Right after the break, texas senator, ted cruz. Chris, i would note the last four questions have been rand, please attack ted, marco, please attack ted, chris, please attack ted, jeb, please attack ted. Let me just say this. It is a debate, sir. No. No. A debate is a policy issue. I will say this. Gosh, if you say that one more mean question, i may have to leave the stage. I think it landed last tuesday. One second its there. Then, woosh, its gone. I swear i saw it swallow seven people. Seven. I just wish one of those people could have been mrs. Johnson. [dog bark] trust me, were dealing with a higher intelligence here. The allnew audi q7 is here. Weyoung company around but if we want to keep the soda pop flowing we need fresh ideas got it. We slow, we die. What about cashing out . No im trying to build something here. How about using fedex ground for shipping . I dont need some kid telling me how to run a business ive been doing this for 4 long months. Fedex ground can help us save money and deliver fast to our customers. Not bad, kid. You remind me of a younger me. Aiden the dog is eating your retainer again. Lets take a short 5minute recess. Fedex ground is faster to more locations than ups ground. All across the state the economy is growing,arts today. With creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. Like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. And in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. Let us help grow your companys tomorrow, today at business. Ny. Gov you know, you claim it is tough talk to discuss carpet bombing. It is not tough talk. It is a Different Military strategy than what weve seen from barack obama. Barack obama right now has degraded our military. You know, just two weeks ago was the 25th anniversary of the first persian gulf war. When that war began, we had 8,000 planes. Today we have about 4,000. When that war began, we had 529 ships, today, 272. You want to know what carpet bombing is . What we did in the first persian gulf war, 1100 air attacks per day. Saturation bombing that utterly destroyed the enemy. That was a big moment for senator ted cruz talking about rebuilding the u. S. Military, joining me now, texas senator and candidate ted cruz. Good to see you. Great to be back. I think that was one of your greatest moment. Many people made an issue about the carpet bombing issue. How do you think it went . I feel very good about it. I think voters got a clear contrast. You know, here in iowa, 93 hours out. It is this is the time people are making their decisions. I think you saw a real contrast between Campaign Conservatives and a candidate who has been a consistent, proven conservative over and over again. That is what people are looking for across the country. Its a different dynamic tonight because we were missing the front runner. How did that change the experience for you . We were joking it was like voldemort, he who shall not be named. We wanted to discuss the issues at got into agreement that you didnt have any gratuitous insults. I think that is what the voters deserve, an exchange where you can compare views and vision. The attacks seems focused on Hillary Clinton and less on each other. You heard frank luntzs focus group liked. We have got to win in 2016. I think the stakes have never been higher. There is an urgency about this election. If we go under this eight more years down this road, we risk losing the country. Do you think that is getting lost . Some debates fizzle and these sort of, you know, big moments but you and senator rubio i dont think its being lost. Were doing a bus tour across iowa. On monday, well go out 99 counties and senator Chuck Bradley does that every year. Everywhere we go, were seeing this incredible excitement. We were in a town of 600 people. 150 came out to our event. 25 of the town. I think people are really, theyre scared about what their kids are inheriting and that urgency is really driving the excitement. That is it. Its incredible to think the voting begins. Lets talk about the exchange you and i had. Lets play a clip. Is that an act . It was convincing. The amendment is 38 words. Anyone can go online and ted cruz. Org and read what it says, anyone here illegally is permanently unable for citizenship. I introduced a series of amendments, the fact that each amendment didnt fix every problem didnt mean i supported the rest of the bill. So, what i was trying to get at there is the bill offers legalization and citizenship, you tried to take away citizenship. I was checking your record to see does ted cruz want legalization or didnt he . I think the report supports you did not want it. But i was trying to get to you is it just seems weird for the average person to see the acting when youre trying to sell it saying i want the bill to pass. I said i want Immigration Reform to pass. You also said the bill. I didnt say the bill. I played it. That was the first one. When i said is that i want Immigration Reform to pass. I laid out on my website an 11 page plan that i would like to have pass. Weve got to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration. We need to youre talking about people coming out of the shadows. It seems like acting. Well, look. What i often do when debating democrats, ways debating Chuck Schumer there. The language of the democrats to show their hypocrisy. It wasnt about that. It wasnt about that. Youre trying to put the lie to that . To read your testimonials on this, that is how i read it. That is exactly right. They said it was all about bringing people out of the shadows. I said great, you should be happy to take citizenship off the table. And Chuck Schumer responded there is no reform, well chill the whole thing. The joke is now the new term for Illegal Immigrants is undocumented democrats. When the hypocrisy was shown to the American People that, is one of the reasons were able to kill it. That is why Jeff Sessions said if ted wasnt there, it would have passed. I thought is he lying about this . The records support you. Its just, you know, the youre running on being outside of the cartel. It seemed a little cartely. Youre playing a cartely game. I dont think it is at all. I said i was opposed to amnesty. And when i got to the senate i was opposed to amnesty. Do you know what is interesting . In the republican field im the only republican running who opposes amnesty and a pathway to citizenship. Marco rubio and Hillary Clinton and donald trump all three of them support a pathway to citizenship. Donald trump says we should send people home but let them back in and become citizens. That is called touch back. Its a form of amnesty, the trump touch back. They fly home, touch the ground and come home as citizens. I am the only republican running who opposed amnesty every day and will do so as well. You do have a consistent record on that. Ill give you that and we did look back on that. Congratulationss. Thank you very much, nice job. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Still a lot more to come with bret baier, considerate stirewalt, look at them, there they are. Youre not going to hear a lot of polished political speech from me, but you will hear the truth. I have had more 2 00 a. M. Phone calls than everybody here put together, making life and death decisions. Theres no one road out there. No one surface. No one speed. No one way of driving on each and every road. But there is one car that can conquer them all. The mercedesbenz cclass. Five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood youre in. And the road youre on. The 2016 cclass. Lease the c300 for 399 a month at your local mercedesbenz dealer. Then smash it into a tree. Ch on a perfect car, your Insurance Company raises your rates. Maybe you shouldve done more research on them. For drivers with accident forgiveness, United States<\/a>. Hillary clinton. That is a book where you changed your position on immigration. You used to support a path to citizenship. So did you. But you changed the book. So did you, marco. All but one of the republican president ial hopefuls face off in des moines, front runner donald trump a last minute no show, offering the rest of the field to make their voices heard before the allimportant monday caucuss. I have had more 2 00 a. M. Phone calls that everybody here put together, making life and death decisions. I dont think have you to give up your liberty for a false sense of security. There is the establish lane, antiestablishment lane, then, the kasich lane. If im the nominee well defeat Hillary Clinton<\/a> and turn this country around after seven years of the disaster that is barack obama. The republican candidates have made more than 300 trips to the state combined, and if history is an indicator, many iowa votes are still up for grabs. Making this night perhaps the most important of all. So who impressed . The caliphate of isis has to be destroyed. Have a nofly zone in syria. I will apologize to nobody for the vigorousness for which i will fight terrorism, go after isis, hunt them down and utterly destroy isis. Barack obama wants america to be like the rest of the world. We dont want to be like the rest of the world. We want to be the United States<\/a> of america. And that is why Hillary Clinton<\/a> can not win this election. Frank luntz and his focus group are here, and well speak with ted cruz, fresh from the debate stage and well have all star analysis. The kelly file starts right now. And hello again from des moines, different location, but still here, moments ago, seven of the Top Republican<\/a> president ial contenders faced off for the final time before the iowa caucuses. The candidates addressed what is wrong with washington, addressed illegal immigration, the threats from isis, social issues and their own inconsistent statements. But perhaps one of the biggest stories of the night, not their attacks on one another, but on Democratic Front<\/a> runner, Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Charles krauthammer is with me now, charles, your thoughts. Hello there. I am ready for your question. I thought this was a very interesting evening because the absence, well, i dont say why. There was a very spirited debate, much more substantive than any other and there was almost none of the earlier debate. It did not having to do, i thought with the kind of personal level we heard before. Ill leave it to the viewers to figure out why. Secondly, i thought it was interestingly the best night that jeb had in all of the debates and i might say he might have had the best night of the group in this debate. He was very strong. He had one moment where he kind of flipped back to marco rubio on the question of immigration. Kind of a reversal. I had that. Yes. We have that. Yes. Lets take a listen then well get your thoughts. Yes. Interesting that jeb mentions the book. That is the book where you changed your position on immigration. You used to support the path to citizenship. So did you, marco. When you led the charge with the gang of eight you supported it because you asked me to. There is never going to be a perfect bill. But when you didnt do that, and you asked people to support, you shouldnt cut and run. Just stick with it. That is what happened. He cut and run. That is a tragedy. But, megyn. There is not going to be any consensus on this issue unless we enforce our immigration laws. Go ahead, charles. What i find ironic here, rubio turned strongly against bush. I thought this is one debate where bush did very well. I thought in his own way, christie did well. He has a way of coming in after the others and arguing and rising above it and saying this is why you need to do it, etc. , when he had that line about you need a dictionary to explain washington speak into ordinary english, setting himself aside. He didnt have a soaring moment, but i thought he did well. Cruz and rubio were the most interesting. Each of them had their moments. Cruz had a rocky start when attacking you, the moderators for trying to cause arguments debate between you. The crowd was not very appreciative of that. Rubio had his rockiest night. I think on immigration, the contradiction of what he said a few years ago and now, he had a hard time arguing out of that box. My own view on that was why, why is it, why would you not show the audience what he said in his own words . Why is it more effective for anchors so sit there and repeat it . Well make sure its in context and fair, and it is something. The video portion is something to see them on camera saying the things and then, having to explain them. There is no question that senator rubio has flipped on this issue significantly and it is a problem with him for a lot of g. O. P. Voters. You showed for cruz, he came out for legalization, which he now says was a sham, and didnt mean it. Cruz, im not sure his argument is a better one but he made a better one tonight and wiggled out of it with slightly more finesse and a sense of conviction than rubio did in explaining the way his contradictions. So it was an interesting array. I thought, i mean, i have a lot of affection for rand paul, i disagree with him more on the issues than other candidates but does show libertarianism as a critique of the main stream conservatism, i dont think he affected his standing but having him on the stage was an addition. What did you think of ted cruzs manner . Normally, he gets in there and fights for air time. Normal live. Maybe not less so . I thought so. I think this wasnt i tried to go the whole segment without saying his name. But im going to fail. I think in the absence of trump. You should feel free. Because i think there wasnt that presence hanging over him. And remember, among the field on the stage, he was a front runner. So he was sort of wanting to sit more on his lead than he would if trump were there. I thought one of the mostinteresting aspects of the debate is how Little People<\/a> went after trump. The only one who did, and i thought it was a nicelydelivered hit was by jeb. He came out against the demonization of the other, particularly muslims in response to the immedia to the video that had been shown on you tube. And i thought he made a forceful defense of his position on how to act in, with isis in the middle east. Particularly since the question had kind of a hook on it. Mentioning the failures of his brothers policy in the middle east. He side stepped it and i thought he handled it very well. Charles, great to see you. My pleasure. Well, at the end of the night, the candidates wanted to do well. And that is essentially, this is a Job Interview<\/a> for them, right . Voting beginses on monday, they want to have George Washingtons<\/a> job. What we care about is what the voters think. Pollster frank luntz put together a focus group in iowa, zeroing in on issues that matter most. Joining me now, frank luntz and his focus group, hi, frank. Megyn, you asked probably the toughest questions of the debates, gave the candidates no room to wiggle. You pressed them. And he responded. I want to begin with the mostimportant and impactful most of the debate. Your challenge of marco rubio, and watch how well he did on immigration. Take a look. It was. Were not going to round up and deport 12 Million People<\/a> but were not going around handing out citizenship cards, either, it will not be unconstitutional executive orders like the ones barack obama forced on us. What is your reaction . I want to show the audience at home how many of you walked in here supporting marco rubio . Raise your hands . Three of you. How many of you are going home most likely to vote for rubio. Raise your hands . That is the impact of a single debate. Describe rubio. Organized. President ial. Powerful. Prepared. Eloquent. Game changer. Electable. Attractive opportunist. Explain what you saw tonight. You dialled two hours worth. What did you see . He was honest and believable. And didnt berate the other candidates on stage. He was positive and put hillary in her spot as far as computers and benghazi. What was it . Tell me . He is articulate but tells it like it is. Hes very believable. He doesnt start attacking other people, other than hes staying on the game plan. Hes in the worried about negatives. Youre the youngest person in this room. Were you able to vote in the last election . Yes. I was. This will be your second time. Is it because rubio is younger . What attracts you to him . No. Not because hes younger, its because hes aspirational. You know when hes going to do something, its going to be what he says. He is honest and seems like he has a vision for this country. I have to tell you very few people feel that way about politics. They see it as negative. They dont think anyone is honest. But, megyn, this is the highest test of the night. This is the highest test. When marco rubio showed a little bit of humor and respect for american heros, the dials just went through the roof. I think Bernie Sanders<\/a> is a good candidate for president. Of sweden. We dont want to be sweden. We want to be the United States<\/a> of america. And Hillary Clinton<\/a> is disqualified for being the commander in chief of the United States<\/a>. That is why hes going to come across as a guy hard for the democrats to attack and most electable. Is he the most electable . Yes. I think he does appeal to a lot of folks. There was unsurety with back and forth with the immigration thing, he continued to put the focus on hillary, which i like. When they got back and forth between each other, i didnt care for that. When they started to differentiate themselves with opposition, i thought he made marks. How many of you think marco rubio can defeat Hillary Clinton<\/a> . Raise your hands. How many of you think he will be the nominee . Weve got a way to go. Here is the question everybody wants the answer to, was donald trump impactful in his not being on air . Youre going to get a surprising reaction. Whether he made a mistake and how it impacted other candidates who did participate. All right. Thank you very much. Well be back to you in a bit. Also ahead, one of the candidates you just saw on stage is here, on his way to share thoughts after leaving the stage. Right after the break, texas senator, ted cruz. Chris, i would note the last four questions have been rand, please attack ted, marco, please attack ted, chris, please attack ted, jeb, please attack ted. Let me just say this. It is a debate, sir. No. No. A debate is a policy issue. I will say this. Gosh, if you say that one more mean question, i may have to leave the stage. I think it landed last tuesday. One second its there. Then, woosh, its gone. I swear i saw it swallow seven people. Seven. I just wish one of those people could have been mrs. Johnson. [dog bark] trust me, were dealing with a higher intelligence here. The allnew audi q7 is here. Weyoung company around but if we want to keep the soda pop flowing we need fresh ideas got it. We slow, we die. What about cashing out . No im trying to build something here. How about using fedex ground for shipping . I dont need some kid telling me how to run a business ive been doing this for 4 long months. Fedex ground can help us save money and deliver fast to our customers. Not bad, kid. You remind me of a younger me. Aiden the dog is eating your retainer again. Lets take a short 5minute recess. Fedex ground is faster to more locations than ups ground. All across the state the economy is growing,arts today. With creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. Like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. And in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. Let us help grow your companys tomorrow, today at business. Ny. Gov you know, you claim it is tough talk to discuss carpet bombing. It is not tough talk. It is a Different Military<\/a> strategy than what weve seen from barack obama. Barack obama right now has degraded our military. You know, just two weeks ago was the 25th anniversary of the first persian gulf war. When that war began, we had 8,000 planes. Today we have about 4,000. When that war began, we had 529 ships, today, 272. You want to know what carpet bombing is . What we did in the first persian gulf war, 1100 air attacks per day. Saturation bombing that utterly destroyed the enemy. That was a big moment for senator ted cruz talking about rebuilding the u. S. Military, joining me now, texas senator and candidate ted cruz. Good to see you. Great to be back. I think that was one of your greatest moment. Many people made an issue about the carpet bombing issue. How do you think it went . I feel very good about it. I think voters got a clear contrast. You know, here in iowa, 93 hours out. It is this is the time people are making their decisions. I think you saw a real contrast between Campaign Conservatives<\/a> and a candidate who has been a consistent, proven conservative over and over again. That is what people are looking for across the country. Its a different dynamic tonight because we were missing the front runner. How did that change the experience for you . We were joking it was like voldemort, he who shall not be named. We wanted to discuss the issues at got into agreement that you didnt have any gratuitous insults. I think that is what the voters deserve, an exchange where you can compare views and vision. The attacks seems focused on Hillary Clinton<\/a> and less on each other. You heard frank luntzs focus group liked. We have got to win in 2016. I think the stakes have never been higher. There is an urgency about this election. If we go under this eight more years down this road, we risk losing the country. Do you think that is getting lost . Some debates fizzle and these sort of, you know, big moments but you and senator rubio i dont think its being lost. Were doing a bus tour across iowa. On monday, well go out 99 counties and senator Chuck Bradley<\/a> does that every year. Everywhere we go, were seeing this incredible excitement. We were in a town of 600 people. 150 came out to our event. 25 of the town. I think people are really, theyre scared about what their kids are inheriting and that urgency is really driving the excitement. That is it. Its incredible to think the voting begins. Lets talk about the exchange you and i had. Lets play a clip. Is that an act . It was convincing. The amendment is 38 words. Anyone can go online and ted cruz. Org and read what it says, anyone here illegally is permanently unable for citizenship. I introduced a series of amendments, the fact that each amendment didnt fix every problem didnt mean i supported the rest of the bill. So, what i was trying to get at there is the bill offers legalization and citizenship, you tried to take away citizenship. I was checking your record to see does ted cruz want legalization or didnt he . I think the report supports you did not want it. But i was trying to get to you is it just seems weird for the average person to see the acting when youre trying to sell it saying i want the bill to pass. I said i want Immigration Reform<\/a> to pass. You also said the bill. I didnt say the bill. I played it. That was the first one. When i said is that i want Immigration Reform<\/a> to pass. I laid out on my website an 11 page plan that i would like to have pass. Weve got to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration. We need to youre talking about people coming out of the shadows. It seems like acting. Well, look. What i often do when debating democrats, ways debating Chuck Schumer<\/a> there. The language of the democrats to show their hypocrisy. It wasnt about that. It wasnt about that. Youre trying to put the lie to that . To read your testimonials on this, that is how i read it. That is exactly right. They said it was all about bringing people out of the shadows. I said great, you should be happy to take citizenship off the table. And Chuck Schumer<\/a> responded there is no reform, well chill the whole thing. The joke is now the new term for Illegal Immigrants<\/a> is undocumented democrats. When the hypocrisy was shown to the American People<\/a> that, is one of the reasons were able to kill it. That is why Jeff Sessions<\/a> said if ted wasnt there, it would have passed. I thought is he lying about this . The records support you. Its just, you know, the youre running on being outside of the cartel. It seemed a little cartely. Youre playing a cartely game. I dont think it is at all. I said i was opposed to amnesty. And when i got to the senate i was opposed to amnesty. Do you know what is interesting . In the republican field im the only republican running who opposes amnesty and a pathway to citizenship. Marco rubio and Hillary Clinton<\/a> and donald trump all three of them support a pathway to citizenship. Donald trump says we should send people home but let them back in and become citizens. That is called touch back. Its a form of amnesty, the trump touch back. They fly home, touch the ground and come home as citizens. I am the only republican running who opposed amnesty every day and will do so as well. You do have a consistent record on that. Ill give you that and we did look back on that. Congratulationss. Thank you very much, nice job. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Still a lot more to come with bret baier, considerate stirewalt, look at them, there they are. Youre not going to hear a lot of polished political speech from me, but you will hear the truth. I have had more 2 00 a. M. Phone calls than everybody here put together, making life and death decisions. Theres no one road out there. No one surface. No one speed. No one way of driving on each and every road. But there is one car that can conquer them all. The mercedesbenz cclass. 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Why give him the air time, they appeared to feel. I asked ted cruz if they had an agreement, he said no, it happened organically. I guess nobody was in the mood to acknowledge the man who is the front runner. It isnt they go after trump, they didnt go after each other. Look. Its a debate. You want to get contrast and people, and they have different opinions on different issues and repeatedly, wed set it up. I was asking rubio about christies position on a bunch of issues and rubio said why dont you go to my website i was like, thank you, senator. It tells you, what is going on in their minds. He said i didnt know, i wanted to get my message in. We did talk to him afterwards. They said rubio said and others said they blocked out how many questions they thought they could get in the remaining blocks. These guys, that shows to show you theyve been now, seven debates and get it. They realize the value of the air time. Senator, saying rand paul added something to it for him. I thought so, too. He is the spicy guy at the end and other guys are like wait, what . And the person who took a lot of incoming tonight was Hillary Clinton<\/a>. They made it, i mean i thought that is part of it. They seem, even if informally to have a nonaggression pact. And a lot of them, all of them in a sense were going to turn their fire on barack obama and Hillary Clinton<\/a> instead of fighting instead of the party lets focus on the general election. Good thing is that we didnt have to switch back and forth between outlines. Before we came on the air we were interrupted whether or not donald trump would come or not. There was buzz he might come at the last minute. So i have my nontrump outline and trump outline. And a wo trump without trump and with trump. With trump was called trump surprise outline. It was all of the questions going to be reconfigured and it didnt happen. This is it. These are the two. This is all no trump, and this is megyn, trump, surprise. This one did not happen. No. It did not. Listen, i thought it was substantive. For voters in iowa, that is issues and what they want to hear. I thought immigration back and forth was brilliant. You talked about it being exciting section which we knew it would be. Its been a pleasure. Looking forward to march. I know. Back to work, immediately. And candidates largely opted not to go after the man not in the room. But that doesnt mean they avoided the issue altogether, watch. Lets address the elephant not in the room tonight. Donald trump has chosen not to attend this evenings president ial debate. Let me say, im a maniac and everyone on this stage is stupid, fat, and ugly and ben, youre a terrible surgeon. Now that weve gotten the donald trump portion out of the way. Chris, this campaign is not about donald trump. Hes the greatest show on earth. I kind of miss donald trump he was a teddy bear to me. We had a loving relationship in these debates and the tweets, kind of miss him. Everybody was in the Witness Protection Program<\/a> when i went after him. Joining me now, howard kurts and chris stirewalt. What did you think . Great job. Totally fun. What did you think . How did it go . For the humans running for president . Yes. Okay. That is important. Because people are going to vote. Youre thinking about fox news . Yes. Chris is part of the debate prep team. What a great job. For those participants, have you to say ted cruz suffered the most. He got the big advantage out of trump not being there because he was centered stage but suffered host because he took more bean balls, bang, bang, bang, on him. Marco rubio had a close because of a slightly energized, Medium Energy<\/a> jeb bush came out. Rubio seemed to lose his footing a little bit. He was saying whats happening . Who ate his wheaties . But they all looked good. What we saw tonight was the alternate universe we would have had if donald trump stayed on the apprentice. I think had most of the candidates off bounds at various times, that exchange on immigration where you played the Video Montage<\/a> of senator cruz and senator rubios apparently conflicting statementsco they h trouble answering questions and it was not a good moment for either one of them. Its hard to pick a winner because these guys were on the defensive and enabled chr. Chris jeb bushs numbers have been low. Outside of jeb bush did anyone help themselves . Jeb bush, whats happening now is that a third of the party is starting to think about is marco rubio the guy we need to have a more or less safer bet for the general election. Theyre starting to move that there. Jeb bush needs to delay the decision to slow that down. I think he did a better job tonight, but rubio, the moments he was doing the full rubio and doing everything with the feelings and good words, i think he did himself better. How about john kasich . John kasich had his moments. I dont believe you when the raise the voice like that. This is not new hampshire. Ill tell you about ted cruz. He probably emerged the best because remember, were in iowa. Hes neck and neck with donald trump in iowa. Trump didnt show up. His staff was worried he was going to be walking out of here, bloodied. That didnt happen. He should be given credit for that. He spoke to iowa voters. His message and what he said off the top and speaking to them will help him. Its not like the fox news debate moderators are known for soft ball questions. So these guys knew they came and answered. They emerged on their standings. Its the big league. Thank you. Just ahead, two former white house insiders on what they thought were tonights surprises. Lets begin by being clear what this campaign is about. This campaign is about the greatest country in the world and a president that systematically destroyed many things that made special. Barack obama wants to change america. 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Joining me now, bill burton. Good to see you. What did you think . It was a good debate. There was a real conversation you havent seen because of you know who not being there. Why are people not saying Donald Trumps<\/a> name tonight . Hes not there. No, i think tonight theyre right before the caucuses. People are looking at how candidates are feeling and you have a sense of who felt like theyre doing well and who felt like theyre not doing that well. What did you think, mark . This is amazing. This is the campaign were supposed to have before donald trump jumped in and offended everythi everything. We were debating serious, substantive issues that might actual happen. That is a fascinating observation. We had our two outlines. Until the last minute, you know, people were saying he might show up. Youve got to be prepared. It would have looked different and issues would have felt very different. And if he had been there, because of the issues injected into the campaign. Do you think the republicans benefit, though . I think absolutely. Well find out. The big winner or loser is donald trump. If he pulls off a win in iowa hell be a political genius for skipping this debate. If he loses narrowly, one third of the voters might change their minds. So donald trump lost, skipped the a lot of Job Interview<\/a>. What can hurt him. What is your experience, bill . You are part of a team that got a president elected. This is a huge state for you guys. You won it. Were here talking about maybe huckabee surging and carson surging. What is funny about huckabee we had a split screen and listening to the debate. And huckabee was on stage with donald trump at the same time his attack ad on trump was running which was an amazing thing to watch. The weirdest thing, ever. And ive been on the winning side of the iowa caucus and losing side. I remember working for dick gephardt. He said thanks. And i thought wait, you dont hug staff if you think your campaign is going to go on. And i think jeb bush i think he felt good. He felt like he had nothing to lose and his bully wasnt on stage pushing him around. He seemed a little looser tonight and krauthammer suggested he didnt come around, he suggested he might have maybe almost won it. I think that is probably a slight exaggeration. I think who won it is marco rubio. I think rubio, i think we saw the reason why, hes gone from 9 to 18 , doubled support in iowa. He ignored donald trump and mostly ignored other candidates and passed up opportunities to attack christie and went after barack obama and Hillary Clinton<\/a>. I think his best most is that Hillary Clinton<\/a> may be the first president to pardon herself. You know . He just went after them. And sweden was make next. Part of the same line there. He just went after them, he said twice, Hillary Clinton<\/a> is going to appoint barack obama to the Supreme Court<\/a> which is like the most horrific thought for a conservative republican. I know not for you but most of the people in the building. He said when im president this is what im going to do. The other thing is that exchange from past positions on immigration. And that is what a core part of the g. O. P. Base did. And in the room, everyone applauded and there is another huge section of the g. O. P. That wants Immigration Reform<\/a>. That is the bus marco rubio was on in 2013. What is interesting about that is that he made the same mistake in the first debate with you. You questioned about him about abortion he said no. No im electable decision. Thank you to you both. Its over between us. Up next, frank luntz return was our panel of Republican Voters<\/a> and wait until you hear voters and wait until you hear about lost shipments, international regulations, security breaches, lost revenue lost respect. Well crafted solutions for todays problems in commerce. Pitney bowes, the craftsmen of commerce. In the country have in common . Many of them now call Cancer Treatment<\/a> centers of america home. Expert medicine works here. Find out why at cancer center. Com. Cancer Treatment Centers<\/a> of america. Well, frank is talking to the focus group and has another interesting few take aways. Frank . What is the story . Megyn, watch this. Donald trump watches this show religionly. Stop laughing. I want to know how many of you think trump should have been in this debate today . Intentional or not, he should have been on the stage but inflicted serious damage on cruz. Cruz had to take the earls tonight. It is now a trump rubio contest. I believe he owed it to the people of iowa to come in and make closing arguments and all of a sudden this became about him. You know, what happened with fox news was to me, a lame excuse. Someoneni else . The election is too important to play games with. Donald trump not showing up tonight, he just won iowa because he exposed the establishment for what they are. Do you agree . No. How many of you think trump is going to win iowa . Youre one of the youngest people here. Were too worried about being politically correct. His heing row gets him places in life. So you still believe in trump . Yes. I dont know if i believe in him, hes a reality star. He has nothing to lose but, or nothing to, he had only to lose, sorry by coming tonight. He wont have gained anything. You think it was smart decision . I think very smart. Hes shown no respect to the American People<\/a> or the people of iowa. Last one. Too nars cisstic. He can find you. That is gary from west des moines. Great to see you all. 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