>> brian: right. you appreciated, i think, in new york banging pots and pans every time nurses went to work. you still got the virus. you have the antibodies. then you find out a mandate comes down from a politician. you are the healthcare worker says get the vaccine or you are fired. have you wrapped your head around to what has happened to your career? >> it's so surreal like saying the facts out loud is like are you kidding? we were fine to work before. and you know, you use the same methodology that you used all the protective measures. and we were tested constantly. but that suddenly was not acceptable and we asked to be -- i don't know. >> brian: what is your hesitancy with the vaccine. >> i need long-term data. >> that's it. like, yes, i do trust science, i