deal. we were relying on the taliban to control isis-k. obviously with the tragedy at the airport, we see that's not happening. it's just gone to pieces. the one point about operations in afghanistan was to make sure afghanistan was never a haven for terrorists, and now it is. it's a magnet for terrorists. and i think we expect to see isis-k trying to grow its strength and become an even bigger terrorist operation in afghanistan and in other areas as well. serious, serious risk. >> jon: i've been to afghanistan once. the place is kind of a basket case already. this doesn't bode well for the future of that nation. >> no, that's right. remember everyone said that the taliban would not be good or capable at governing there. now with this isis-k threat as well, and you know, the longer implications are that the u.s. may have to go back to carrying out more drone strikes, i think