danger for mankind because he doesn't want to place any new limits on this function research. he went on his website and change the definition, they took the words gain of function off of his website, off of the nih website, he still trying to obscure any situation for his funding for this type of research. the funding goes on. this could be done again. >> even if it resulted in a worldwide pandemic, he still supports gain-of-function research. that to me is like a mad scientist. >> those kind of situational ethics should give him away. think of the 5 million families who have lost loved ones. he's saying, the research was worth it. sorry for your loss of your loved one, but the research was worth it. what a callous disregard for individuals, individual liberty, and the individual deaths of