waist, the wrist, the ankles? how did they overpowered these cards? we don't know? but i june of the back story. in april, they allegedly set fire to house and burned to death a tucson man living inside -- allegedly paid 72-year-old frank bly. then the couple, blane and susan barksdale, if we to upstate new york where the refined hiding by police. arizona wants than extricated, but they only have so much money. rather than using trained deputies to buy the couple to tucson, it hired a private company out of kansas that often transports foster kids the dental appointments, among others, to drive the pair of alleged killers 2,000 miles from new york to arizona. the couple overpowers the guards in utah, deals the van, and drive south. the victims' son is shot. >> we are dumbfounded.