women or attacking cops like the female cop who was attacked by a large homeless man. that is a little bit naïve. it does not have anything to the back it up. there is some truth to what she is saying. she just has to be a little bit more nuanced. >> jesse: you can do both but you can have hospital funding. richard, you are a very, very rational person. are you not a rational person? >> i hope so. >> jesse: okay. what do do with criminals? you put them in prison and you keep them in prison for long periods of time. >> nuance is the keyword. i think in this country, criminals have been associated with everybody, commits every crime under the sun. i think some drug offenders are -- does good mental health problems there and murderers are different. and i think also what this requires is for us that reimagine how we do criminal justice in this country. >> jesse: we imagine it? >> i think we should rematching