they had asynchronous learning, which is essentially videos they are playing where kids were not learning. and now, kids aren't being tested to find out what the deficits were during the pandemic because these unions are protecting them. parents have seen behind the curtain and they are pissed. so what they are doing is trying to protect their kids and take back their education because they have been disconnected from thcess for so long. and you're absolutely right, this is just the start and using more and more parents, and they are not just white nationalists. you're seeing a lot of asian parents and southeast asian parents and persian parents who are actively targeted in places like los angeles because they are very vocal about their kids' education. and i hope it becomes a cultural norm once again the parents are involved and they care deeply and they make sure that the curriculum serves. >> sandra: i do feel like every time we have these conversations, there are so many teachers that do care so deeply about their students across the country.