I did not. Is at your door, mr. Murdaugh, bad things happen. What do you mean by bad things. Do you know why people lie, because they know they have done something wrong. Are you. I would never intentionally do anything to hurt either one of them. Ever. Ever. Nancy im nancy grace, thank you for being us with here for special investigation of Alex Murdaugh double murder trial, were camped outside of the court of house. In less than 12 hours. 0930 court will resume. We saw the debacle on the stand last week. There he goes, Alex Murdaugh, crying and crying. There is a report that one of the juror,handed him a box of kleenex, did they believe him . He did a great job, but during crossexamination. It began to fall apart under the beating he took from the prosecutor. This is is the reason you should never take the stand, remember that Fifth Amendment right to remain see lent, listen to our cut number 12. I dont believe doing that. I dont believe that i ever had one of those, i dont think a single thing about that, not they remember, i dont recall. Mr. Waters if dir if did, i sure dont recall it. I dont remember taking an oath. I have no idea. I dont know. I dont know. I dont know. I dont know. But i dont believe so, but i really dont know. You dont believe so. I dont remember having, that i dont know. You dont remember that. I dont remember that. No, sir i dont know. I i dont have a specific memory, i can say, i dont remember it or wall this mr. Waters. Nancy okay. You know what that is not enough. After multiple hours of direct and crossexaminic. He kept doin it, cut 13. I dont know. I dont know as i said mr. Waters i dont know, no, i dont recognize. I dont know. No, sir, i dont recall that. I dont know about that. I dont believe thats correct, no, sir. No, sir, i dont know that. I dont know. I dont know remember i dont remember saying that. I dont know exactly. Nancy joining me tonight, allstar panel to make sense of what we know. Make a calculated predication. But first i want to go to high profile lawyer eric bland, he is representing Gloria Satter feel family, they were one of Alex Murdaughs many victims, he represented them and stole millions of dollars. Let me be a little more clear, eric bland, Gloria Satterfield was long time housekeeper and helped to raise the two boys and she fell to her death at murdaugh home, then murdaugh got a multimillion Dollar Settlement for them, and son left behind, i think is Development Alleally challenged. He was living in a m mobile home which was going to be foreclosed upon, and murdaugh took her money, that is where you come in representing the family . Right, not only just Brian Harriet and tony satterfield, he used it as an opportunity to enrich himself. It was U Ultimate Act Of Betrayal to someone that family loved. You know this guy rk asked for forgiveness so many peoples but never said i apologize to any of his victims, he said i did them wrong. But he never said i apologize for breaching the trust that you reposed in me, that i stole the money that you needed at the most vulnerable time of your life when you lost your mother or a catastrophic injury or tons of medical bills. The guy lied, his whole life, then said what the devils at the door im going to tell you the truth now and you must believe me. Nancy eric. I was going to ask about strategy of putting him on the stand. I have to say, he did a pretty good job under directed examination. The lead Defense Attorney had that all laid out and planned. I wonder how many hours they reversed that, it fell apart, bland. That is all we have Fifth Amendment right to remain silence so this does not hatch, i feel activity One Step Forward feel it was One Step Forward on direct directed 2 steps back on cross. It is a High Wire Act who you put your client on the stand. The minute he stepped on the stand and admitted he committing crimes he sealed his fate under the state financial crimes, and federal government, a backstop. But really what was shocking to me was the admission he lied from the start about being at the kennels, and the drop the mic moment is last question they asked he set him up, saying i distrust sled, i like local Law Enforcement but i lied because of sled, and they played initial officer who came on scene, green, he said to him, went 15 seconds, to a guy who just arrives on scene, i had not seen my wife and my son for 45 minutes, i was in the house, i was never at the kennels. All right setting it up. There his wife and son, he is lying, standing a few feet from them, they are on the ground, riddled with bullets and he is already setting up an alibi. This is where it starts. The panelas panel, as we go, ann is joining me The Star Of UnsolvedSouth Carolina, murdaugh, murders, money and mystery, you were in the courtroom, this is where the whole thing starts he lies at the get go. About the night of the murders, everyone on the panel, that is listening to fox right now, has lost somebody they loved. They loved dearly. And the last moments that you are with them, i know for me, it is forever engrained in my memory, but somehow, the pill popping serial liar, Alex Murdaugh got is bass akwards about that night. At some point we are at the house together, maggie had gotten home. And you know we sat down, and ate supper, we usually eat supper together, i know that maggie went to the kennels, i dont know where paul went. But he left the house too. Okay. Im assuming paul went to the kennels, i stayed in the house, i was watching tv looking at my phone, i actually fell asleep on the couch. You and paul got back to the house, miss maggy is there and yall eating i supper you said you laid down and took a little nap, when you got up mage and paul was gone or did they leave when you laid down. I believe that im not sure. They werent there whether you woke up around 9 00 mark or so when you made the call to maggie to let her no. Nobody was in that house when i left. Trying to narrow it last time you saw Paul And Maggie is when yall was eaten supper. Yes, sir. Nancy just shocking. And hearing that again. All starts. Nancy right there is where is starts to fall apart, at that juncture he doesnt know that by accident, a video ta was taken and can be timed to one or tw two minutes before the murders, his voice is on that video. Right there he is telling police, that he had dinner, i think they went to the kennel and i took a nap and left to see my mom, nothing about the kennel, that is why that is the pivotal moment, ann. It is everything, nancy you are right. Everyone that heard that, it is the jurors who now have this in their head, they have listened to this over and over again. This kennel video of when he was actually there at opposed to what we heard, his story that he told not once, 3 times to investigators and multiple times from what we have been told to family, and friends. And loved ones. This is a lie he stuck to, up until the day he told us what happened in court. Nancy you are right. Ann emerson, i want to go to chris mcdonough. Joining me director of cold case foundation. And star of Youtube Channel the interview room. You have investigated over 300 homicide cases, isnt it true every Homicide Victim family weres the last moment remembers the last moment they saw their loved one, the words that that were exchanged. What happened, somehow that night, Alex Murdaugh forgot the last thing he said to his wife, last time he saw his son, have you seen that before . Absolutely not, your point is 100 percent on target. That type of trauma him you know allegedly rolling up on it, that those memories become even more important to that individual. We have all experienced it in our lives. And for him to kind of almost as if he was shifting gears, while he was speaking without really having any real emotional traumatic connection until it just again it didnt feel genuine. Nancy okay, guys, before we go do break, i want to hear the kennel video. Murdaugh had no idea his voice was caught on the video. And he doesnt find out until months pass, and his son pauls phone is unencrypted. They finally get this video. And there he is. At the murder scene. Cut 21. Get back. Get back. Quit. Quit, cash, its okay, come here. Come here, cash. He got a bird in his mouth. Hey, bubba. Its a gimme. A chicken. Come here. Cash. If your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds. Com can see if it may qualify for a Payroll Tax Refund of up to 26,000 per employee. All it takes is eight minutes to get started. 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They could not have been closer, paul of the just very innocent lets taking this video of this. To the video, get to the video. Okay. Nancy Paul And Maggie are out there in the kennels, if you listen carefully, remember Alex Murdaugh told police, he left from the house, after he had dinner with his family and a nap to go to his moms, then, this emerges. Take a listen again, if you listen at end you hear murdaugh saying, come here, bubba. Talking to the dog. Get back, get back. Quit, cash. Quit. Its okay. Come here. Come here, cash. Come here. Hold still, cash. He got a bird in his mouth. Hey, bubba. Its a chicken. Come here cash. Come here bubba. Come her bubba. Nancy that third voice in the background is will e Alex Murdaugh accords to close friends, he did not know that existed. Why jeff gentry, what took so long to deencrypt pauls phone, defense did not know he was caught on this video. Until it was too late. He had already given the statement he was somewhere else. Nancy some of these new cell devices are hard to get into, i am sure they had to obtain a lot of paperwork before they could get in the phone, Difficulty Level of finding that information, it is great they found it. A huge piece of evidence. There is a lot of good forensic evidence in this case, there is bloodstains and trajectories. All out autopsy reports and gs, but this is the most purpose piece of evidence, without it i dont think he would have fessed up, he would have confiden never would have told the truth, he thought he was better than everyone, he would have never admitted to this crime had not been for this piece of evidence. Nancy even after jeff, they video began to emerge, Alex Murdaugh stuck to his guns. Cut 23. The question you just asked him, is that dea deal with whether he went to kennels or not after supper. Correct. He said he had not. Background. You were in the background. That was prior to asked me if i was up there, he said he thought it was me. It was you . That at 9 00. Yes, sir. No, sir. Not if my times are right. Who do you think it could have been. I have no idea. And has been around your family for pretty much all your life. Yes. He recognized your vice, you have a distinct voice. Can you think of Anything Else that has a voice similar to yours that. No, sir. Nancy with me is a renowned Opioid Expert dr. William maroney. Author of american narcan. Doctor this guy, by his owned mission has about a 50 thousand to 60 thousand a week addiction to opioids. He lies so well. Are you surprised . Not at all. Anyone who has a chronic Substance Use disorder, has basically had their brain rewired by the opioids. The amount of medicine he needs to take that he is obtaining illegally is astounding, average 30 day supply is Something Like this. And if he is taking what me he says, he taking this much, that has to cause impaired thinking and atthispoint it doesnt make him slower, or talk funny, it affects his moral and ethical judgment. 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No, not for that but when anything unluca unusual like that happens in front of jury, the defense has a right to ask for a mistrial we would be back at square one. The judge immediate immediate reined in inch. We believe that defense will put up two more with businesses possibly a pathology, a Crime Scenic Pert or a tech, then. The state, not to be out doooutdone will insist they have the last word and some degree of a are you b rebuttal case, what you saw was murdaugh getting caught in a lie, having no idea his voice was on the video taken one to two minutes before his wife and son were murdered at their Hunting Lodge dog kennel. Sidesteps that he was never about until he was caught on tape, what do you do when you are busted . You blame the police. Cut 4. When get arrested i went to jail, we began reaching out to you to talk to you about all of these things to try to tell you everything that i had done to give you details to help yall go through these financial things. And up until the time that yall charged me with murder and my wife and child, you would never give jim griffin a response to our invitation to sit down and meet with you. You are saying that before yesterday you reached out anyone through yourself and your attorneys and reached out to Law Enforcement and told them the story about the kennels, are you selling me that. Aim te im telling you. The questioning him about volunteers information on these charges violates his Fifth Amendment right wuss object. Object is overruled. For the record he did not bring. Financial stuff. Sit down mr. Griffin. Nancy you dont hear that often judge said sit down. But, he did it now you dont have a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent once you choose to speak that is what he did, he took the stand. He voluntarily shoc spoke to police, once you choose to no longer remain silent it is all over, they can ask you anything they want to ask you. And i would think atthispoint eric bland,