Spoiling for a fight on this issue. This is no time for politics. And it is no time to fight. If he wants to fight, hes not going to get it from me. Period. This is going to take us working together. He does not have total authority. Bill chief White House Correspondent john roberts leave the sour. Nice to see you john, on the north on, lets begin with you. Bill, good to see was well, its a bit perplexing as to what this argument is all about. Certainly the president has got authority over border and International Travel restrictions, things that are under federal control. But it is the state governors who have been issuing all of these closures and estate home orders, still, the president insisting, again, today, that the authority to fire the starter pistol to reopen the American Economy is his, and taking aim at governors in the northeast and west to saying they are getting together on a regional basis to make plans to reopen. The president tweeted tell the democrat governors that mutiny on the bounty was one of my alltime favorite movies, a good oldfashioned mutiny now and then is exciting and invigorating thing to watch. Especially when the mutineers need so much from the captain. Too easy. In his Daily Press Conference today, new York Governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledging that he has gone hat in hand to President Trump for equipment and supplies, but that he will make the decision about what to do regarding new york. Listen here. His proclamation is that he would be king. Thats what a kings. A king has total authority. That simply cannot stand. Come said he doesnt want to have a fight with the president , will not have a fight with the president. Unless, of course, the president tries to get him to do something he doesnt think is the right thing to do. From a safety and health perspective. And then, he would be open to a fight with him. Bill. Bill john, what needs to be in place before the economy gets moving again . Theres a whole idea with the soft target date of may 1st, theres a lot that has to happen between now and then. We have to see the infection curve really start to flatten out, and then there need to be more measures in place for rigorous testing and Contact Tracing. Dr. Anthony fauci telling bap in an interview earlier today that so far, those things that are necessary to reopen the economy are not in place, in an interview with Laura Ingraham tears tonight, though, the Vice President said the Coronavirus Task force met this morning to make sure that there will be sufficient testing and Contact Tracing in place. Meeting with a number of people this afternoon we have recovered from the coronavirus, President Trump saying he is getting close to issuing new guidelines to begin the process to get america back to work. Listen to what the president said. President trump and im going to be making a decision pretty quickly, and its being done in conjunction with governors. We have tremendous support from governors. And what i do is going to be done in conjunction with governors. So the way that it looks this is going to work, again, this is part of the interview the Vice President did with Laura Ingraham. As of the Vice President in the white house will come out with new guidelines that they will disseminate to the states, then it will be up to the states to decide how and when to implement those guidelines. The Vice President also suggesting that areas that are least hardhit by the virus can probably be the first months open up, it may take places like new york, detroit, new orleans a little bit longer to do that. The president also, this afternoon, bill, will be announcing who will be working with him on this new advisory board, i think its probably the best way to put it, to reopen america, he will be consulting with a number of experts from a number of different sectors, medicine, the economy, business, political leaders as well, to determine where and when and how american can start to get back to work. Bill he said that would involve governors, waiting to hear if thats the case. John roberts from the north lawn, appreciate that john. Some Health Officials warning of a possible second wave of covid19 cases. My next guest was the first to say this four days ago. So, were going to go down from now on in terms of numbers of mortality. Some states will have to peek a little bit later, but california, my state, new york are going to go down in terms of the numbers of mortality. So this is a very positive we move forward, the worst is behind us as a country. Bill there was, the worst is behind us. Professor at the university of washington, sir, how are you, good afternoon, thank you for coming back here. What do you see in the models, they are, doctor . The worst is behind us as a country. As ive said before, many states are seeing a decline. Some states who delayed social distancing measures will see a peek later, they will come down later. What were seeing right now as a country, were really making progress, and americans have stayed at home and that has helped us to really contain this pandemic. Bill couple of things your doctor, on the screen, pull up a chart, this is the number of deaths that goes to april 10th. Which was friday. The day you said that. Its the highest graph, its the highest bar on the entire graph. Perhaps youre right about that. Theres another projection in your model that says on june 27th, the United States will see its last death because of the coronavirus. How can you tell that now . The model is still tracking very well, the mortality in the u. S. , and actually, an average for some states, that last death will be much earlier. For example, my state, we peaked at april 5, we will see a reduction in mortality by the first week of may. So, certain states are ready to consider returning to business much faster than others. As long as we were able to make sure we have in place the testing and the capacity to trace all the cases. In their context. Bill a few other things i saw, peak hospital use has artie hit, you believe, in new jersey, and in new york, michigan, illinois, and louisiana. Boy, we hope youre right about that. We are seeing here, and washington, given my experience at our own university, we are seeing a decline in patients, our capacity to do testing is increasing, yesterday, were talking officially to how we can help them to go back, were talking to oil to make sure we do testing for those employees to go back to business who are working, theres a big company here, testing their employees to go back to work, we are increasing our capacity of the university of washington. So good news coming from seatt seattle. Bill okay, in the minute left here, youre to come out with a model that can show how different parts of the country can reopen. Is that ready now . No, we will release it tomorrow at 12 30 p. M. Seattle time, pacific time, and then yes, i will be happy to come and talk to about it. Bill i love it, you have an invitation to come back. What would you say to those who watch and listen and wonder, why should we believe you now, doctor . We have been read so far in our models here at the institute for evaluation, weird doing this to make sure that if there are changes in the country, we will capture that, because we believe we want to provide the best information. I want to talk to people who stayed at home and have listen to us in the population, we asked them to stayed home, and they did it. Now its my turn, and our turn to listen to them and help them open the business of the country. Bill doctor, come back tomorrow, the invitation is out there, we will do a podcast on thursday, we will blasted out across the country over the weekend, and we will have a longer extended conversation. Okay, doctor, thank you for being a friend of the program, well talk you tomorrow, thank you sir. Joe helped me manage h1n1, he prevented the epic democrat from becoming the type of epidemic are seeing now. He helped me restore americas standing in leadership in the world. On the other threats over time, like Nuclear Proliferation and climate change. Joe has the character and experience to guide us through one of our darkest times and heal us through a long recovery. Bill former president obama nell fortner surely making endorsement for Vice President joe biden. Neutral during the primaries. Owner bringing karl rove, hope youre doing well, hope to see him in person again, sometime soon, hopefully. A lot of folks mightve been saying what took you so long, but he made a point of saying im staying out of this primary battle. Why do you think you took that approach during this, carl . Well, because it was clear right from the beginning that a lot of the people that surrounded president obama as political advisors and so forth had real doubts about joe biden as a candidate and both of the primaries and the general election. And i thought that ambivalence was sort of reflected today in president obamas endorsement. First of all, it took him 2 minutes into the 12 minute take before he even brought up the issue of politics. And youre right, he prays to joe biden from a personal perspective, but i think he did to intentional things that could work or couldnt work, into unintentional things that i think could hurt him. He specifically said joe biden was responsible for the economic recovery and bringing back the Car Companies and together president obama and Vice President biden rescued the economy and brought it back. That sets up a comparison between what happened under president obama and what happened under President Trump before the coronavirus. And i think a lot of people might think well, i did okay in that very slow recovery under obama, and biden, i did a heck of a lot better once trump came into office, particularly bluecollar types whose wages were rising slower than their supervisors under president obama, but were rising much faster than the wages for their supervisors under President Trump. Bill so here is what brett personnel said from the trump team, now that biden is the only candidate left in the field, obama has no other choice but to support him, even Bernie Sanders beat him to it. Obama was right in the first place, biden is a bad candidate who embarrassed himself and his party. President trump will destroy him. So theyre going to say, it did not take a profound courage to pull this off today. I think it goes back to the question, what did you think of his hands off approach during this . Well, i think it was probably wise, because he had to be the figure who unifies. There had to be somebody who is standing apart from this who had stature who could say lets all come together. Whats interesting is, he said lets come together today in this Youtube Video by saying lets surrender to the guy who lost. He put joe biden clearly on the left of the democratic party. He said hes the most Progressive Agenda he is calling for real structural change. He said look, i wouldnt have necessarily run on the same things if i were running today because you know, income inequality is terrible, and our Education System served up suggesting free college, weve got to have bold new green initiatives in a way it was sort of dismissive of the more moderate approach that we saw under president obama, and he painted joe biden as being on the most leftwing candidate the democrats have ever nominated for president. Now, maybe thats true, but im not certain that if the election is going to be decided by people who were sitting there saying im sort of in the middle, i sort of like what donald trump is doing, but i dont like how he handles himself, that thats necessarily the most powerful message to get to them. A bill okay, carl, seven months to debate that. I have about 30 seconds to get to the next point. Wall street journal came out with this, reopening the economy at last, governors and trump can share credit if they do this the right way. Thats a headline from the editorial board. I heard senator rob portman from earlier from ohio saying its not the president s call, its not the governments called comets of the individuals call. The American People individual by individual decide whether or not its safe to be in school, the grocery store, or church. They will determine how the economy opens up or does not. What you think is the right path on this . Well, i think everybodys rate. The president has a role to play in this, governors several to play in. Individuals, theyve got to desire it, but they can act in violation of local laws or local ordinances or local orders to shelter in place, but they can have an influence on their leaders. Lets do this thoughtfully, lets do realize that the country is not all uniform, there are different situations that apply in different places. Federalism works here, lets approach this with an idea of tolerance and good cheer and i think we can work our way through it. But lets realize everybody has a seat at this table. Business, labor, local government, state government, federal government, and the individual all have a role to play in helping local leaders figure out what to do in this important moment. Bill nice to see you, carl, well talk again, karl rove. For weeks we followed the story of carl goldman after he tested positive for covid19. Today, he and his wife jerry share their story at the white house. 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Lawmakers have now been arguing for weeks that chinas government has been and is continuing to underreport the true number of coronavirus cases inside the country. The china virus couldve been a local Health Problem and you help will haunt if the Chinese Communist party had been transparent and honest. Now one Washington Policy Group estimates the real coronavirus cases inside china is closer to 2. 9 million. The American Enterprise institute claiming the communist party has definitely made estimation difficult. Outside of hubei province, cases are low by a factor of 100 or more. This comes as the Washington Post reports today its got the smoking gun when it comes to the Chinese Governments alleged coverup. Two new state Department Cables warning about safety issues at a wuhan Infectious Disease lab. The first cable, dated january 2018 mourns that the labs work on coronavirus and their potential to human transmission presented a risk of a new sars like pandemic. The cables note insufficient technicians or investigators to operate safely. Now, so far, the state department isnt commenting on the existence of these two cables. Fox news, though, has learned theyre both allegedly marked sensitive but unclassified, an indication that they do contain National Security information. The Chinese Foreign ministry insists that since day one, they have notified the w. H. O. Of the epidemic, shared the genome sequencing of the virus, carried out International Cooperation and helped other countries affected, all at the earliest time possible. Now, over the weekend, the Chinese Government unfortunately made new moves to tamp down further on scientific information related to the virus, a new communist Party Directive says that all academic researchers, policy papers have to be vetted by the government prior to publication, bill. Bill gillian turner, thank you, outside the Chinese Embassy in washington, thanks for that. 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