Stronger fire walls against this growing threat. Then, the u. S. And cuba end a cold war that lasted half a century. Suddenly cuba is open to the world. In ways it has not been before. This president has to be the worst negotiator weve ever had. And he has betrayed, betrayed those cubans that have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. Two members of the Senate ForeignRelations Committee will debate the president s opening to cuba. Republican ron johnson and democrat ben cardin. Plus, jeb bush moves one giant step closer to running for president. How does his early announcement shift the landscape for 2016 . Our sunday group weighs in. All right now on fox news sunday. Hello again from fox news in washington. First, some breaking news. A gunman has shot and killed two new York City Police officers executionstyle, after vowing on social media to retaliate for the deaths of Michael Brown and eric garner. Fox news correspondent brian menace lenas, sorry. The killer posting images on instagram of his semiautomatic weapon and blood stained pants suggesting the shootings were in revenge for Michael Brown and eric garner at the hands of police. Writing, quote, im putting wings on pigs today. They take one of ours. Lets take two of their theirs, shootthepolice, rip mikebrown. Police say this man ismaaiyl brinsly shooting officers winjian liu and Raphael Ramos and earlier he shot and seriously wounded his girlfriend before going to brooklyn. Police commissioner bill bratton says the officers were, quote, targeted for their uniform. Today two of new yorks finest were shot and killed with no warning, no provocation. They were quite simply assassinated. The shooting fueling tension between nypd and mayor bill de blasio. They say de blasio basically threw police under the bus by not backing the officer in the choking of eric garner. Last night Police Officers turned his back on the mayor when he visited the families of the fallon officers. We tried to warn. It must not go on. It cannot be tolerated. That blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. The president briefed while on vacation in hawaii issued a statement urging calm while unconditionally condemning the murders. Thanks for that. President obama has now directly blamed north korea for the cyber attack on Sony Pictures. And he promised a proportional response. But what does that mean and how vulnerable are we to cyber warfare . Well talk with congressman mike rogers, chair of the House Intelligence Committee in a moment. But first, fox news chief intelligent correspondent catherine brings us up to date. The sony attack is believed to be the first time destructive malware targeted a corporation in the u. S. And now hackers physically destroy data and systems. Similar to the hack on banks with the sony attack led the fbi to conclude north korea was a principle in both. A Bureau Statement reads north koreas actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a u. S. Business. The president went further saying sony was wrong to pull the movie the interview starring james franco and seth rogen because it silenced free speech. Im sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. Having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. Or even worse imagine if producers and distributors and others start engaging in selfcensorship. Sonys president said they had few options after theaters started dropping out. A petition by Actor George Clooney to support sony and the films release failed to gather signatures with the actor telling Deadline Hollywood not a Single Person in his industry would sign up. An entertainment source told fox that sony even took the film to major online streaming companies and they all refused to run the movie. Chris . Catherine, thank you. Now, lets bring in the chair of the House Intelligence Committee mike rogers. Welcome back. Thanks for having me. The fbi used very tough language to describe this hack attack. Lets put it up on the screen. North koreas attack on Sony Pictures entertainment reaffirms that Cyber Threats pose one of the greatest National Security dangers to the United States. Two confess, how serious was the attack . Do you regard this, in a sense, as an act of war . Well, you cant necessarily say an act of war. We dont have good, clear policy guidance on what that means when it comes to cyber attacks. Lets back up. Russia attacked estonia. Iran attacked saudi arabia. Clearly a destruction on the saudi arabia, destroyed 30,000 computers, wiped and destroyed data. We kept warning, those that have been paying attention to this, this is coming to the United States. Probably sooner than later. What you saw awas a nation state who engaged in trying to really destroy an American Company and then took it to the broader level of using threats of violence in order to get their political will. This was a nation state attack on the United States and saying aloha and get, on an airplane and going to hawaii is not the answer the world needs. The president promises there will be consequences. They caused a lot of damage. We will respond. We will respond proportionally and well respond in a place and time and manner we choose. So, how tough should he get with north korea . Unfortunately, hes laid out a little of the playbook before weve done anything. That press conference should have been, heres the actions we took on north koreas action and heres what were going to continue to do. Right now, trust me, our intelligence services, the folks who would be responsible for at least the first wave of trying to make sure they dont have the capability to do this again, were ready. They have the capability. They were ready to go. The problem here was not the fact that we didnt have a capability to do something nearly in immediate time, we just didnt get a decision from the president of the United States. Wait. Are you saying we should launch a cyber attack to take out their cyber warfare capabilities . Im saying f youre talking about a proportional attack it should be at least proportional. The United States has the capability to make it very difficult for the North Koreans to do an attack like this any time soon. Take out their cyber infrastructure. Ill let you define what that looks like. They have the capability to do it. Heres the problem. So, there was lots of discussions last week about what this looks like. Do you not acknowledge do you take an initial step and then acknowledge . By acknowledging it and then laying out to say, were going to do something in the future, you have diminished the capabilities that we can engage in this particular why . Because they can protect themselves . For a whole host of reasons i cant get into in detail but you just limited your ability to do something. Just calling north korea out isnt going to be enough. I argue you have to ramp up sanctions. It needs to be serious and significant. Remember, a nation state was threatening violence. Forget the fact there was the hollywood drama of this particular event. They went into a company and they used something called a wiper virus. They wiped out data. If youre at home thinking, how does this affect me . This is hollywood. Who cares . The problem is, what if its your car company you work for . What if its a bank you work for or a bank you have transactions with and that data is gone, its destroyed. I cant tell me how much money i have in the bank. Thats how serious this is. What youre saying is they took cyber action against us. We need to take cyber actions in retaliation. Im not going to say exactly specifically but i can tell you we have the capability to make this very difficult for them in the future. At least in the near term. But i dont think thats enough. This was a nation state who attacked an American Company and then threatened violence in that second order against people who would go to the movie. Take the movie part out of it. This is the fact they were willing to threaten acts of violence against u. S. Citizens in the United States. This is a country that tested Nuclear Weapons as late as last year. You talk about the effect this could have on all of us. The federal is now banned from helping private companies build up stronger fire walls to prevent cyber attacks. In fact, you sponsored a bill that passed the house last year that would have made it easier for the government to cooperate and deal with private companies to protect themselves against this kind of threat. It passed the house. It did not pass the senate because privacy advocates were worried about more abuses from big brother, if you will. On the internet. Question, did those privacy advocates in this new world that weve seen postseason y do they need to get over those concerns . I think a healthy concern is a good thing. We accommodated those concerns in the bill. Thats why we got a bipartisan vote in the house of representatives on a bill that does simply this. It allows the nsa and other agencies who go overseas and collect malicious source code, that nasty stuff that hurts season y that could hurt your bank, could hurt your job. They protect the Government Networks but were prohibited from sharing that with the private sector. 80 of companies out there the nsa is not monitoring those 85 of the networks. Theyre private networks. This would have allowed them to share malicious source code so they could protect themselves. So, we built in all the protections for civil liberties. Again, this isnt about reading your email. Its about stopping ma lishgs source codes. Zeros and ones in a configuration that do nasty things to your computer and your information and are highly disruptive. There was a different kind of terror attack this week in australia. An iranian held 17 people hostage in a sydney cafe for 16 hours before police finally stormed the place. It reminded people of the lone gunman who attacked the Canadian Parliament as well as the man in new york who attacked police there with a loj. How big a threat are lone wolves . Do you distinguish between the committed jihadist, one thinks immediately of someone like nadal hassan at ft. Hood, and some of these cases which seem to be deranged, sick individuals who kind of latch on to Islamic Teachings as a kind of cause or a script. Hard to argue youre not a de ranged individual if youre inspired to chop someones head off. Dont care if youre stable one day and not stable the next day. Same as loeb wolf candidates. Earlier in australia which fundamentally changed theth way we saw isil or d. A. S. H. Operate, they had people identified in aus tlal yeah who were going to come to fight in syria. They made a significant change. They called back and said, no, dont come. Got plenty of people coming. Stay in australia. Randomly kidnap people. Chop their heads off, film it and well use it for propaganda purposes. That is a fundamental change. So, if theyre doing it in that case you know theyre pushing out this notion to inspire others to commit these actses. Canada, germany, france, United States, great britain. Its getting worse. Not better. Final lishgs lets discuss your committees reported, house Intelligence Report on benghazi, as you know has gotten a lot of criticism, including from some commentators here on fox news. The Committee Found lets put this on the screen. No evidence that there was that there was either a stand down order or a denial of veilable air support to prevent rescuing u. S. Personnel. Here are two security contractors who were at the cia anext and say they were prevented from going to the consulate to rescue u. S. Personnel there. Here they are speaking both before and after your report. I said, hey, we need to get over it. Were losing the initiative. Bob looked straight at me and said, stand down. You need to wait. We feel our words have not been recognized or used as validation for what took place that night. I dont know how you cannot use our words. Were the eyewitnesss there. They say there was a stand down order. Chairman, why dont believe them . He they were clearly told to wait. They acted very bravely that particular evening. On sworn testimony, including those who have gone on tv, its very clear they went through the line of questioning of no stand down order. They were told to wait, which was a tactical decision on behalf of leader to get more information about when they should go and if they can get more arms to go. I argue thats very, very different. This very bright line well, there was a stand down order or not, in this particular case. Remember, we interviewed contractors who are now public. We also interviewed security contractors who are still working overseas who provided sworn testimony and witness testimony and as a former fbi agent, bank robberies, other things, sometimes in a high adrenaline impokt impact, peoples versions are a little different. The goal here is no piece of information could go forward unless it was substantiated or corroborated. That was done in the report. By the way, the report was very narrow. There are serious questions yet to be answered and youve also been criticized for going hes on administrations talking points, susan rice came on this and four other sunday talk shows and said, that this was all a spontaneous protest that when violent, it wasnt a planned terror attack. Your report says the process used to generate the talking points was flawed and mistakes were made in the process of how those talking points were developed. Critics say youre ignoring the fact or glossing over the fact that this was in effect political damage control in the midst of president obamas reelection campaign. Well, that part we wouldnt have been able to get at because it was beyond the scope of the report. Most. People who are out publicly beating up the report have never read the report and theyve never accessed the classified arch annex and the classified evidence, including some members even on the committee. Let me ask you a quick question. Do you think this was political damage control by the Obama Administration . What i believe and the report two very separate things. Im asking what you think. I do believe the administration used the way they tried to present the facts for their own political purposes. And i believe that in the state department, we have very little answers in what happened in the state department. Remember, my committee was only to do the lane of intelligence on the ground. So our report only did the intelligence laying. Didnt do the state department. Didnt do d. O. D. Its hard for me not to come to that conclusion. Again, my report, the committee report, was only for the intelligence. I do believe that people in the state department have not yet been held accountable. I believe in expeditionary diplomacy. I believe in putting these folks in tough circumstances. People in the state department havent been held accountable including secretary state clinton . Again, the investigation needs to determine that. Thats where i think the committee can get at. State department where weve had no answers and in the White House Security council weve had no you believe those are unresolved issues . I do. Chairman rogers, thank you for coming in. Merry christmas. Good luck with your new career where you join us and youll be a radio talk show host. Good luck. Thank you, chris. Merry christmas to you and your family. Ill see you on the radio real soon. Through go, see you on the radio. Next up, our sunday group joins the conversation about the cyber attack on sony. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel . Go to facebook or twitt twitter foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. Tiptoeing. Better things than the pain, stiffness, and joint damage of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. Before you and your rheumatologist decide on a biologic, ask if xeljanz is right for you. 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What should they have done when the movie chain said they wouldnt run the movie and how do you see this as a threat to the security of this country . The president says rightly you cannot have a fr