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FOXNEWSW Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace August 7, 2016

Payment to iran, just as american hostages were being freed. Senator tom cotton, one of president obamas sharpest critics on whether it was a ransom payment. Plus, as clinton and trump both face high unfavorable numbers, well ask our sunday panel whether the election will be about who voters dislike more. All, right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. Its been a remarkably rough week for donald trump. A series of selfinflicted wounds and one poll after another showing him falling behind in key swing states. But on friday, Hillary Clinton once again stirred up a controversy over her private emails, which is why this race between two unpopular and distrusted nominees remains competitive. Joining me now to discuss the state of the campaign, former speaker newt gingrich, one of trumps top advisers, and clinton advocate, congressman javier bacera. Gentleman, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Good to be with you. Lets start with the two candidates, as trump has gone from one misstep to another this week, speaker gingrich, you have been as sharp as any critic about your man. Here are some of the things youve been saying about him. Very selfdestructive, take a deep breath and learn some new skills, trump is helping her to win by proving he is more unacceptable than she is. I know that you think that clinton would make a lousy president , but is trump how close is he to disqualifying himself . I dont think very close at all. I think that welco, first of al you look at the last few days, hes gotten the message. He came out and endorsed paul ryan, which he should have done in the first place. Endorsed john mccain, which he should have done in the first place. Endorsed kelly ayotte. Its very tricky if youve never run for Public Office to jump from being a businessman and being one of the two candidates running for the presidency, and hes made some mistakes. The biggest mistake made last week was made on your show. Its one thing to lie and another thing to lie about lying. And on friday she gave us an explanation. Her brain apparently had short circuited while she was talking to you. But using a short circuit as an explanation when youre doing something is very dangerous in a president ial campaign. So i think she managed to trump trump in terms of mistake. Well, that brings us to Hillary Clinton. Congressman bacera, who has a different problem than trump, honesty. Last week i asked her about the fact that fbi director comey said that what she had been telling the American People for a year about her private emails was untrue. Was false. Heres how she responded in that interview. Director comey said that my answers were truthful and what ive said is consistent with what i have told the American People. And after independent Fact Checkers came down on here on her, heres how clinton responded to that question on friday. I may have short circuited, and for that, i will, you know, try to clarify. Because i think Chris Wallace and i were probably talking past each other. But congressman bacera, she didnt short circuit. And we didnt talk past each other. The problem was that clinton misrepresented what james comey told the American People. Chris, what director comey told the American People was that after a thorough version by the fbi, that of the more than 30,000 emails that Hillary Clinton had provided for this investigation, that there was no wrongdoing. And well, no, he didnt say that. Thats not even what im talking about. What he said was theres not enough grounds to prosecute her. He did stay that she had been extremely careless and negligent, but specifically what he had said that what she had told the americmeramerican peop the course of the last year was wrong. And lets play what he said on july 7th to congress. Secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Is that true . That is not true. Secretary clinton said i did not email anyone classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material. Is that true . There was classified material emailed. Congressman comey directly contradicted what clinton had been telling the American People for a year. Chris, what you dont also show is director comey also said she had no knowledge of some of those classified emails, because they were either not marked or they were not classified at the time, or they were incorrectly marked. So he did come out and say, you dont show that. He did come out and say that she did not know. They were marked. Improperly marked. And more importantly, he said, there was classified material that she had emailed. But she did not know it. If there were intention to send classified emails, the fbi would have pursued it much further. I think youre trying to make more of this than it is. She said, i didnt intend to send classified material. She said there was no classified material. She has made it very clear that shes looking back at this, she would have done it differently. That she did make some mistakes, but she never intended to send classified information over emails. And the fbi investigation confirms that. So while we may want to make more of it, the fact is the fbi has said we should move on and get to real important matters of the country. But i think youre missing the genius of her friday comment. Now you can say in july to that mother of benghazi, it was a short circuit. You can say, did you forget the 76 secret meetings in the secretary of States Office . No, it was a short circuit. She has a way to say, it wasnt that i lied, it was that i didnt remember what i said. After 3000 emails having been disclosed, what we dont yet know is one tax return from donald trump. We dont know how his wife gained her immigration status, because he wont reveal that either. Thats not true. And its time for donald trump to start providing one iota of information on his tax returns, which hes never agreed to do. First of all, we know that his wife had a green card before she met him. Howd she get the green card . She came here legally. Howd she get the green card . She applied for the green card. She came her legally. Before she applied for the green card . This is the only immigrant in america youre worried about . I think its amazing the one person you decided to pick on happens to be the wife of donald trump. Interesting gnat immigrant barber is unwilling to explain how his wife, an immigrant, got a legal status. Hes not an immigrant barber. He just likes his immigrants to be legal. Its great for misses trump to have her status. But when some guy goes out and bashes immigrants, not only undocumented, but legal immigrants, and wont explain how her wife got her immigrant status, i think i think we have made the point. Lets turn to the economy. Here is what trump says about his plan. Were going to cut our taxes for the middle class. Were going to cut our taxes for business were going to have massive dollars pouring into this country. And were going to create jobs like weve never seen before. But, speaker gingrich, trump would cut taxes 9. 5 trillion over the next decade, most of it going to top earners. And adds 11. 2 trillion to the debt with unspecified spending cuts. Mr. Speaker, his numbers dont add up. Of course not. I mean, i think that historically, no candidates numbers add up, particularly in the media. But so youre saying his numbers dont add up, but his im going to have toyou on t. All candidates. But, let me give an example. If you open up Americas Energy and mining opportunities, theres at least 7 trillion in potential additional revenue, just from making it easier to develop our own energy and develop our own resources. There are a number of steps you can take to dramatically decelerate the economy. If you dramatically shrink the 600 new regulations obama has imposed, you have an explosion of Small Business getting created. In a period of economic growth, such as the reagan area, you, with in fact, do raise a tremendous amount of revenue. Congressman becerra, you can respond to that, but i also its breathtaking. The plan that you just outlined, which sends money mostly to folks at the top have been scored to probably lose about 3. 5 million jobs by senator mccains former economists. It is also very clear that increasing debt, donald trump really meant that he was the, quote, king of debt. And this is a guy who thinks, and his quote was, wages are too high. The problem in our economy isnt that wages are too high. Weve seen a lot of jobs created. Some 1,500 jobs created in the last year or so. But the problem is americans havent seen their wakes go up. But president obamas been the president for the last eight years. You make it sound like, you know, somebody has been in charge. And let me ask jobs are good. Whats not good is that we have to see americans wages go up some. Thats what we have to work on. But the jobs arent good. The jobs arent good. Youre not get manufacturing back. What youre getting back are bartender and who outsources jobs, right . Let me ask you about clintons numbers, because, in fact, they do add up. She would raise taxes 1. 2 trillion. Raise taxes, 1 trillion over ten years, most of that on the rich. And even with big new spending programs, adds only 250 billion to the debt. But as i discussed with clinton last week, what it is, basically, is more of the obama plan. Heres that discussion. Youre offering more Government Programs well, but lets more spending, more entitlements, more taxes, more tax penalties and tax credits. But lets unpack that. What im offering is the biggest Job Creation Program since world war ii. And i hope to be able but its infrastructure. Thats what obama did. But he didnt get to do enough. The problem with the weakest recovery since 1949 is that obama didnt get to do enough . We didnt invest in our roads and our bridges and our schools the way we should have. A 1 trillion stimulus package. And only a small portion of that went to infrastructure, to investments in our roads, our bridges, our classrooms. What hes saying, you want to put my dad was in construction. Construction was the hardest hit industry in the 2008 recession. You put a construction workers to work, youre putting restaurants to work, because somebody has to go get lunch. And youre doing a lot more to ripple that just briefly. Notice what he just said. We had a chance, we had 900 billion, we blew it, but now trust secretary clinton isnt blowing it. A lot of them are not very good jobs and a lot of americans are working parttime. Only in the world of grinch and republicans would creating 15 million jobs after george bush left the economy hemorrhaging 800,000 jobs a month. You campaign on things that are good enough. Well campaign on things can get better. Well see who can win the general election. Weve got a little bit of time left and i want to get to an important issue. And that, of course, is isis, the external threat. Heres what clinton and trump are saying about each other. It was Hillary Clinton that she should get an award from them, as the founder of isis. There is no doubt in my mind that donald trump is unqualified to be president and unfit to be commander in chief. Congressman becerra, we are running out of time. Briefly, what is clintons plan . Because i have to say, i dont understand either of their plans. What is clintons plan to destroy isis, and why is it better than trumps . Just as she was there to green light the raid on osama bin laden, just as she was she didnt green light it, president obama was. But she was there to give advice to green light that. She was the one who assembled the coalition that helped stop the Nuclear Buildup in iran. Whats her plan to stop isis . Shes made it very clear. You get tough on them, at the hours. You make sure were doing everything we can to protect the homeland. How is that different from what weve already done . What you dont do is you dont call for torture to be used by the u. S. Military, you dont cozy up to people like putin and saddam hussein. You dont say, why havent we been using Nuclear Weapons, the way donald trump has said. You create stability and partnerships you need. You dont go out there and show youre unfit to be president the way donald trump has. So 15 years after 9 11, were not winning. Were not winning in afghanistan, were not winning in iraq, were not winning in syria, were not winning in libya, were not winning in yemen, were not winning but thats a knock on our troops. No, its a knock on two administrations thats a knock on our troops. No our troops will tell you theyre not winning. Do you think going in again and again do you think Donald Trumps going to attacks a gold star family. Whats going on with that . Look, first of all. He also defends a lot of gold star families. And the fact is he sure attacked the khan family and went after the mother. And mr. Khan attacked him pretty tough, too. So politics is a tough business. But he should get out of the kitchen if he cant take the heat. For both of them. But the fact is, clintons got disrupting, failing with russia and on iraq, and she will do more of the same failure, including, by the way, paying 400 billion in cash, which the president assures us was not, in fact, in any way a ransom 400 million and well be talking about that. Which is a good way to get you guys off the stage. Speaker gingrich, congressman becerra, thank you both. I hope when they have the big debate, the nominees do as well the two of you did. Thank you for your time today. Up next, well bring in our sunday group to discuss both candidates troubles. Theyre shaking hands. And new polls that track the changing shape of this race. Were back in a moment. With usaa is awesome. 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Well, jerry, how damaging was this week for donald trump and was it irreparable . Very damaging, but not necessarily irreparable. The number that scared republicans most is that Hillary Clinton is up nine points, eight points or ten points in other polls. But we have a number that asks people, what kind of congress do you prefer after this election, one controlled by democrats or republicans . A month ago, that was an even question, an even break, 4646. Now democrats are up by four points. I think what really changed this week was republicans looked at the Trump Campaign and said, its in trouble, but you know what, its the kind of trouble that can drag us down. And now youre seeing a separation in the party. A president ial Campaign Going this way, Congressional Election campaigns going that way. I want to pick up on that with you, lisa booth. We saw the long, unwinding road that trump went to to finally on friday endorse paul ryan and john mccain and kelly ayotte, after first saying he wouldnt endorse them. We just saw that ad from a republican congressman, running for reelection, beginning it by saying he doesnt like donald trump. How much trouble is trump in with his own party . Well, that does present challenges for donald trump, obviously. Its not good when your own party is coming out with ads distancing themselves from you. But i think some of the disaster donald trump has faced could potentially have been the best thing that could have happened to him. Sometimes candidates need to get their teeth knocked in to force directional changes that are needed for the campaign, that are beneficial for the campaign. And what we saw in donald trump endorsing paul ryan, senator mccain, and ayotte as well, which is a recognition that he needs the republican party, he needs the Republican Base to win a general election. What we also have seen, hes hired cam bridge analytics, hiring the firm that was behind brexit, who identified firsttime voters and was able to wring them out and get them out to vote. Thats a positive step for his campaign. We actually saw the fact that he actually outraised Hillary Clinton in direct donations, 64 million to her 63 million. A 69 increase in smalldollar donations, which is a positive step for his campaign. And also, after getting hit with 234 million in radio and tv buys by clinto

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