Started in the mall and where it ended in the mall . I believe he entered the Southeast Side by sears and made his way through the mall and i know that lieutenant ellering may be able to give you a better idea of exactly the pathway, but it ended in macys. Is there video of what happened . There is. Of the entire incident . I dont know if theres video step up. Were working on piecemealing a lot of that together right now. There is no core video in the actual mall itself, but a lot of the independent stores have their own Video Surveillance systems, so right now were working, we have investigators out there right now working with store management to figure out what stores have video, which way it points, what angles we can get and all the different mechanisms to get those downloaded and thats what were working on right now to get those pieced together. Macys does have video inside, so the incident encounter with the offduty officer is on video. We believe other portions of the incident, starting from the one side of the mall and going to the other will be bits and pieces will have video. The search of the two separate units, do you believe there was anybody else involved or plotting or just again, at this point, we are working in conjunction with our federal partners, with the fbi, to determine those kinds of things. Let me add, as well, before i forget, st. Cloud is a very resilient community. St. Cloud is filled with hard working, right thinking, decent people, and were going to be stronger because of this. You know, it doesnt matter where this happened. Its not happening anywhere, its happening everywhere. Yesterday was just a horrible day, not only for st. Cloud, but for the state of minnesota, and for our entire nation. So i wanted to be clear about that, but i also want our citizens to know that were here and we will remain steadfast in service of them and in protection of them. Do you have the spelling of the officers name that fired the shots . Lieutenant . Jason faulkner falconer. Jason falconer. Falconer. Was he there shopping . From what we understand, he was in the right place at the right time. He was off duty. Not there as a Police Officer. Again, truly, if not for his actions, things would have been worse. Had an opportunity to speak to him about a half an hour ago. He, clearly, prevented additional injuries and potentially loss of life through his heroic action. Can you describe what you see in that video . In that video, what ive seen in that video is the suspect is entering, carrying a knife into macys and thats where the video i had an opportunity to see last night. Clearly, he has a knife in hand. You can certainly see the officer, officer falconer, when he came in, clearly, and from what witnesses say, you cant hear from the audio on the video, but he identified as a Police Officer and asked him you can actually see him going down by command, and then immediately lunging towards the officer. And this is something as somebody, you know, im a layperson to Law Enforcement, but in witnessing what may have been 20 feet beyond, covered in less than two seconds with the knife. So you saw him lunge at the Police Officer. The officer then fired a round, a few rounds, you see him fall, and then you see him get back up. Again, fired upon, you see him fall, you see him get back up. Three times. And then even after that, to the point where hes still attempting to get back up again, then the officer, fatal blow. Then you also see our officers, st. Cloud p. D. , entering the scene at that moment. Can you describe the knife, was it a large knife, a small knife, definitely a knife . Definitely a knife. Kitchen knife . I would, from my vantage point, certainly something that would be more of a kitchen type knife. Certainly the type of knife that created injuries on nine individuals, but didnt really matter what the size of it, it was dangerous and caused significant amount of injury to a lot of people. How much difference was it, ballpark on the distance, did he get close enough to this person im watching a video, so what i see is looks like 20 feet from the first lunge and each one getting closer, even to the point where close enough that the officer actually was almost to the point of falling backwards, he was that close, if not theres clearly, clearly the officers life was clearly in danger and he to me, in watching it, it looks like a training video for Law Enforcement, what Law Enforcement should do. Clearly, he made a decision and if not for him being there, clearly, this would have been much worse than it was. Officer falconer, he has a background in teaching tactical my understanding he does. Couple more questions, folks, then at the conclusion of this briefing, we will continue to disseminate information the oldfashioned way via our media releases, and so if theres a need for us to convene you again, we will give you ample time to get here. Was the officer injured in any way . Not to my knowledge. Carrying a bag that contained inside or was he carrying it inside the mall . The video shows exactly what the mayor said. Hes wielding a knife, and he closed the distance on that officer in the blink of an eye. Can you talk at all about the suspect, how long he may have been living in our community or have you had contact with him in the past, was he on your radar at all . We have had minor contact i believe we have three inhouse contacts with this individual, nothing more serious than traffic violations thus far. How long this individual has lived in st. Cloud, i dont know that yet. Anything with the fbi, any watch lists or anything hes ever been on . I would defer that to the fbi. So, at this early stage in the investigation, im not going to comment on that. You know, part of our process, again, is searching, you know, the entire repository of databases on what we know about somebody, to include immigration records if they are applicable, to include, as you mentioned, terrorism watch records, our own internal databases, so thats an ongoing process that takes time you have been listening live to authorities in st. Cloud, minnesota, talk about a stabbing at a mall last night. There were nine victims, three still in the hospital. It was ended by an offduty parttime Police Officer, used to be a police chief himself, jason falconer, and that the suspect got up three different times after hed been shot and former officer, i guess parttime officer still, jason falconer, was the one who put it to a stop. Hes being called a hero. The video they say almost looks like what you believe out of police training. The fbi saying they are investigating this as a potential act of terrorism. Saying they dont have enough information on the suspect, although there are confirmed reports of him talking about allah as he went on the stabbing rampage and also, of course, during the stabbing rampage asking people if they were muslim. Isis now saying it seems as though everyone but the fbi might know what his motivation is. They are saying they are not releasing his name or identifying factors, maybe suggesting they are waiting to notify next of kin. Well see. A lot of details there, still more to come. For now for now, well be back at the top of the hour, more analysis on st. Cloud, minnesota, also new york, and new information coming out of the devices, explosive devices, coming out of new jersey. See you then. In new york, to express concern, and then we communicated over the course of a few hours and i learned right away when i reached out to her and that was when i learned about her. Why didnt, if i may, why didnt she just say it, because this gets to the question of transparency and i want to put up a new fox poll, people were asked whether the candidates are trustworthy. Neither of those is good, but by a substantial margin, senator, the American People seem to think that trump is more honest than clinton. Well, you know, i would challenge that. Thats the poll, those are the numbers. Right, right, but he said hed release tax returns and hes not doing it. Again, i was plain about the press with it right away. But she wasnt. I did say what she said, which was i was not going to get into the content of the conversations. Obviously, that content is important for running mates to be able to share without being public about it. But the timing was clear. That brings us to the state of the race which, frankly, keeps tightening, senator, in the latest real clear politics nationally, clinton leads by 1. 5 points, down from eight points in august. In ohio trump is up one point. Less than a month ago he trailed by five and in florida he trails by less than a point. In late August Clinton led by 4 1 2. Senator, your lead is gone. You know my state, this is like every race ive ever been in. We went into the first two conventions basically tied. We came out of the second with a good lead and its tightened up over time, just as i thought it would, just as i actually told secretary clinton when i encouraged her to run in april of 2014. Briefly, were running out of town. If trump is a bigot, why is it trump cant keep a lead against him . Were a very divided nation, chris, politically divided, and what were trying to do over the course of the end of the campaign is just compare visions. Donald trump also put out a book when he decided to run and he called it crippled america. I dont recognize crippled america in the optimistic can do, upbeat spirit of the American People, but, obviously, weve got a real case to make between now and november 8th that our vision of stronger together is the vision that americans should embrace Going Forward and we have confidence that we will. Senator kaine, thank you. Safe travels on the campaign trail. Thanks for talking with us and thank you for bringing some props along, as well. You bet, chris, good to be with you. Joining me now, governor chris christie, the head of Donald Trumps white house transition team. Governor, i want to start with the breaking news about the explosions in new jersey. Whats the latest on the investigation and do you believe, have any reason to believe, that the explosion was an act of terror targeting the Marine Charity race . Chris, first after, as far as new jersey is concerned, nobody was injured, the race had not yet started when the bomb exploded, so were very, very grateful for that. The fbi is leading the investigation in new jersey. We have very promising leads, but we have no one in custody at this time. As far as terrorism is concerned, chris, it is clearly an act of terrorism. We just dont know whos responsible for it, domestic source, foreign source, we dont know that at this time, but it was done intentionally to try to terrorize the people of new jersey, so that e with know, but we need to know whos responsible now and get them into custody. I want to turn to politics and i want to begin with Donald Trumps comments where trump suggested that the secret Service Detail around Hillary Clinton should disarm and, quote, lets see what happens. You just heard senator kaine say trump was inciting an act of violence against Hillary Clinton. Your reaction, sir. Ill tell you something, when a race gets tight, even a guy like tim kaine gets desperate. To imply, didnt imply, he said it was to incite violence is outrageous and he owes donald trump an apology. Donald trump was trying to make a point about Hillary Clinton wanting one set of rules for herself and one set of rules for the American People. Senator kaine should be ashamed of himself for saying donald trump would like to have violence preerpetrated against Hillary Clinton. Its an outrageous statement and showing how desperate and scared the Clinton Campaign is now. This race is at a dead heat. They cant believe it. They are going to get worse news as we move forward because donald is going to continue to do better. The fact is, you have a security detail, obviously, Hillary Clinton has a security detail. Youre not average citizens, so to suggest that you might want gun control for the Larger Population but doesnt necessarily imply to a public figure like yourself, is that really hypocrisy . No, what it is, hypocrisy is on Hillary Clinton and tim kaines part. They want to remove Second Amendment rights from the American People. Weve seen that over and over again. I think what donald was trying to do is make a point she wants one set of rules for herself and a different set of rules for everybody else. All the American People should have a right to reasonably protect themselves and in most states in the country thats what exists. Mrs. Clinton wants to change that in a significant way. I think its an important debate and discussion for the country to have, but for senator kaine to go as overboard as he did this morning breathlessly accusing donald trump of inciting violence against Hillary Clinton, its outrageous, its beneath him, and he should take a deep breath, get used to the fact this is going to be a very close race and stop all the craziness. All right. Lets talk about another issue. Trump also tried this week to end the birther controversy after earlier in the week refusing to say that he now believes that barack obama was born in the u. S. Now, last september when you were running against trump, you tore into him for keeping this issue alive. Lets look at what you said then. Id say the president is a christian and he was born in this country. Those two things are self evident. Donald trump has to decide, as weve seen, and i said this all along, he has to decide how serious a candidate he wants to be and how he handles different problems like this are going to determine that in the eyes of the American People. So, how serious a candidate is donald trump when he is still talking about the birther issue less than two months before the election . Very serious, because he said clearly and unequivocally this week barack obama was born in the United States period. So the controversy is over. I made my position really clear, chris, on this both in the campaign and before that, actually, that was my belief, and donalds made it clear now that its his belief, as well. If you think, chris, that anyone in the United States is going to go into the voting booth and either vote for or against donald trump or Hillary Clinton based on this issue, people that think that are completely out of touch with the problem with the economy and jobs in this country, with the problem of terrorist threats around the world and here those are the issues that are going to decide this race and not Something Like this. Respectfully, governor, people, Voters Decide whats going to decide the race and as you may know, a lot of people are upset at the idea, they would say, that trump was trying to de le jit miez the first american, africanamerican president , so thats an issue for them. Trump didnt end the controversy, he continued to say that Hillary Clinton started the birther controversy. Question, do you have any evidence that either Hillary Clinton or any member of her campaign in 2008 ever publicly questioned Barack Obamas birthplace . Well, just look at the comments that patty made, chris, and the fact is wait, wait, wait. If youre going to go there, what she said was that some volunteer in iowa raised the question and was immediately fired. That hardly seems like they were pushing the birther issue. Chris, you know, the fact of the matter is, thats what happened during the Clinton Campaign in 2008. If they appropriately fired the person, good for them, but nonetheless, the issue was raised by the Clinton Campaign. The fact is this, chris, you and i both know theres lots of things that go on privately and quietly in campaign, there are people whispering in your ear all the time trying to get you to report things they are unwilling yet to say publicly and if you look back at that 2008 race, rather, between Hillary Clinton and barack obama, it was an incredibly bitter, angry race on both sides, where a lot of things were said both publicly and privately off the record and on background, members of the media, that probably both would like to take back at this point, but the fact of the matter is, that donald trump put this issue away on friday, and you say Voters Decide, chris, ive run in two elections statewide here in new jersey and ran the republican primary for president and im telling you its my opinion that there is no one in this country who is today undecided about this race who will make their decision in the next month and a half based upon this issue. They are going to make those decisions based on jobs and the economy, the threats of terrorism around the world and at home. These are the things that are going to make your decisions on, not on this issue. I know you guys all love it, but its just not going to be one where undecided voters are going to make their decision in my opinion and experience on this. Governor christie, thank you, thanks for your time today, sir. Chris, always great to be with you, thanks for having me. Please come back. Up next well bring in our sunday group to discuss trumps suggestion that clintons secret Service Detail should put away their guns. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about trumps birther comments . We may use your question on the air. Some relationships you stick with. Over time, they get even better. Thats why more people stick with humana medicare advan