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they are very mature and know Whats Going On and know the commitments weve made to the American People to repeal and replace a failing program in obamacare. Im excited about where were at. The president achieved something no one thought he would. I think we were right to give the congress and at a boy in the rose garden. This is just the beginning before lets talk about the commitment youve made. During the campaign, the promise president made to voters about obamacare. Here it is. I will take care of everybody. I dont care if it cost me votes. Everyone will be taking care of much better than their taking care of now. Chris here are some of the features. Under obamacare, older people could be charged three times as much as younger people. In the house bill it is five times as much or even more. Under obamacare, people with preexisting conditions couldnt be charged more in the house plan if states opt out,
they would have to pay for. That is just in the house bill. What this tells you is when President Trump brought several individuals into his office and said fellas lets work it out and make sure this preexisting condition is taken care of, he made it happen with should show every american how committed he is to making sure if you have a preexisting condition he is not going to let you down before you are talking about that narrowly. There are arguments against it. We will talk about that in the next segment. The cbo released an analysis of the last bill. Lets put the staff on that. By next year they said 14 Million People covered Under Obamacare will lose their insurance. By 2026, 24 Million People will. Thats not taking care of everybody as promised. We dont buy the cbo score. Everyone instantly wont come off of insurance as the cbo score indicates. We will have more options, the preexisting conditions the high risk pool before the old people will pay five times as much or more. Thats the old bill. Thats also before the senate takes the bill and makes it even better. The point of all of this, go back to the beginning. If we go back to the beginning we have two options, continue down the road we were on with the failing, collapsing system that most people dont think will work, or start the process with a better system, more choices and options, lower prices, keep your doctor. We started the process and got through the house and its now off to the senate. Well get this done. We will repeal and replace and
have a better product. Before lets talk about another aspect. Democrats say the house bill will be a big drag on republicans politically in the 2018 midterms. Here is nancy pelosi. You have every position of this bill tattooed on your four head. You will glowinthedark on this one. Chris they are facing angry voters at townhall this weekend. The unofficial bible assessing. [inaudible] shifted its assessment by 20 seats now held by republicans in the favor of democrats. You could lose your House Majority over this. These are the same people who said donald trump wouldnt run and he did and he couldnt win
the primary or the general and he Couldnt Get Healthcare Repeal and replace any got it through the house. Look, the fact of the matter is, sometimes in life you have to do whats right, not what is politically expedient. We believe it will be a better product and when people see the premiums are lower and its Better Service and more options and choices, they will reward the republicans who stood up and said we will not see the Obamacare System continue any longer. We will do Something Better and do our job as legislators to get this done. I think the Republican Party will be rewarded. Chris lets turn to another subject. A budget was passed to keep the government funded until october. President trump said it was a big win. Democrats say they rolled him and the white house. There is no money for construction of thedp8h border. The bill continues funding for planned parenthood in century citys and you did get more
money for defense, you didnt get the big Domestic Spending Cuts you were calling for. Didnt they get more out of it than you guys did. I dont think the democrats got anything. Lets back up. They lost their parity rule which means for every Dollar Increase in military you have to have a dollar in domestic. I lost it. Thats one of the biggest failures that no one is talking about. They lost on military spending. We get to one of the biggest increases in military spending. Number two, for the first time in six years our military will get a raise. We have over A Billion Dollars to do work on on the border including border walls that will go up where fences exist today. We can buy the property we need to continue the wall moving forward. Chris the president talked about a shutdown in october are
they going to be tougher in october. Im not even done yet. They didnt get their csr payment or any money. Chris when you talk about being in the weeds, were in the weeds. Right but his agenda moves forward in this budget and he would say. As far as whats coming down the pike in september, we will be ready for the fight and make sure his priorities continue. Chris okay. Speaking of the budget and his priorities, the president talks about fighting the opioid drug epidemic. In a new budget proposal, he is gut the White House Office of the drugs are. Funds for the drug is ours office would be cut 95 eliminating its two major programs. And the Acting Leader said these cuts are heartbreaking. Why, when you say theres an epidemic would you cut the office 95 . First of all, that the leaked document and nothing is final in this debate and discussion in regard to this issue. Chris the leader is taking it pretty seriously. Good for him. He should take it seriously. Youve got it all over the place. Its in nhs and secondly, i dont think any president showed more commitment in regard to tackling opioid in the first 100 days. Chris i understand but thats why people are so surprised about the cuts. Its a leaked document, nothings finalize, theres work being done at hhs and d. O. J. Judge him by his actions, not leaked documents and hypotheticals, and the actual
actions of the president is a total commitment to this epidemic across the country. Chris finally, a New York Times had a frontpage story yesterday that talks about you and how much you have riding on passing Obamacare Repeal and replace. I want to put up, im sure you will love these quotes. You viewed it as a make or break moment. Another big loss on healthcare would have been an unrecoverable low to a weekend mr. Previous. Other than that is this true . Know, but remember the last time i was on your show, it was something along the lines that the person that people are pointing to most for the failure of obamacare was reince priebus. I kind of joked at the time, so when it passes in my going to be
the one person who gets all the credit . Of course not. The president knows that. One person in the west wing among thousands of people doesnt make a difference. This would have never gotten out of the house, he did it and brought people together and was a leadership we havent had for eight years previously before the New York Times accused you of being a nice guy which only in washington would be a character flaw. How deeply. Im a nice guy but i didnt get here by accident. Thank you. Always good to be here with you. Up next to users guide for repeal and replace. What would it really mean for you and yourt family . D 26 vita. Boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. But with my back pain i couldnt sleep or get up in time. Then i found aleve pm. The only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. And now. Im back aleve pm for a better am. Studying to be a dentist and she gave me advice. She said dad. Go pro with crest prohealth. 4 out of 5 dentists confirm these crest prohealth products. Help maintain a professional clean. Crest prohealth. Really brought my mouth. To the next level. Go pro with crest prohealth
calling me an energy farmer. Energy lives here. Medicaid. Whats the problem there. For Older Americans their Health Insurance is very expensive. Under obamacare thats limited how much they can be charged and by having tax credits that limit the percent of income they have to pay for Health Insurance as well as expanding medicaid to lower income adults. That goes away under the house alternative. The Medicaid Expansion goes away. For the poor and elderly they dont have access to Health Insurance. Tax credits become flat and not income based so the elderly have to pay much more for Health Insurance. You have a system thats not as protective. Chris carl, lets talk about both aspects. Democrats are saying there isnt as much protection just shy of medicare and their calling that the age tax and the compromise that the house passed does this, it provides states that set up high risk pools with another 8 billion extra over five years to help people with preexisting conditions on top of 130 billion to help states with other costs, but democrats say that is still not enough. Lets take the 3 1 band that causes young people under the Affordable Care act to subsidize people, older people. It has been expanded 5 1. Why is that done . Older people have Healthcare Costs that are roughly 4. 8 times those of younger people. What we have is a system that if you want to call the tax we are taxing virtually everyone under the age of 50 by causing them to pay more for their premiums to subsidize the coverage of people over the age of 54 or 55 to reduce their premiums despite the fact that the older group has higher incomes, higher wealth and less childrearing
expenses than the people below. Before we had the Affordable Care act, 42 states had set the bandwidth that 5 1. Three of them had it at a lower level and the rest of them had no standards. The reason was. Chris i got it. Now talk about preexisting conditions because that is the hot button. Look, the bottom line, there is a lot of trash being tossed about. There is no change in preexisting conditions for people in the Affordable Care act and in states that dont have her waiver. If the state asks for a waiver, it can say if you havent had continuous coverage or you let it lapse for more than 63 days and you have a preexisting condition, you get a policy but you could be charged up to 30 more than other people your age for one year as it an incentive for you to stay in continuous coverage for there is 8 billion
to pay for people who have extensive illnesses. Chris this is a debate so let me bring professor gruber in. Why isnt that enough. Well, the most important accomplishment of the Affordable Care act was ending the ability of insurers to say you cant get insurance or your charged more because you have bad genes. Americans dont like it. Why would you want to introduce this. It opens the law for states to say just because of the genes you are born with you will pay more for Health Insurance. The law includes funds from highrisk pool. I call it a highrisk puddle. By all the estimates, these are trivial funds compared to what would be needed to actually pay for it. Chris lets move on. Nono, first of all, it does not change preexisting conditions for the vast majority
of people. If your state waves out, all they can do is charge you 30 more for one year. Chris gentlemen, ive done this in a president ial debate so i will do it with you guys but i want to move on to another subject and that is medicaid because more than half of the 20 Million People who gained coverage Under Obamacare gained through the expansion of medicaid which allows more over the next ten years by changing it to a fixed block
grant two states. Carl, why is that good. It focuses medicaid on who it should be focused on, the vulnerable, the disabled and the young. It says two states, you can put in place Work Requirements of people who are able to get a job in coverage on their own can do so by removing the incentive to stay on the role. Yes it cuts the medicaid over the long haul but it increases the money spent on those with ailments and children and those who have children and are single parents. We should focus this program more on the vulnerable and not people based on their income as a disincentive to work. Chris let me brin professor gr. Please respond to that and Entitlement Reform. We been talking about that for years and years. Is this Entitlement Reform. He is absolutely wrong. Medicaid does this, two thirds is spent on the elderly and disabled. You cant cut that program by 25 without massively hurting the elderly and disabled in this nation. Its mathematically impossible. You are talking about a program that takes care of our most vulnerable citizens and cutting it by 25 . Why . What does this do . This does nothing to fix our healthcare system. All it does is massively cut funds and have a large tax break. If we want to talk Entitlement Reform that a legitimate discussion but lets have it in the context of reforming entitlement which doesnt harm our citizens, not cutting up program for the vulnerable by 25 . Chris okay, i want to get into one last subject. The goal is to replace obamacare with Something Different and i think everyone agrees obamacare has serious problems. Here is President Trump on obamacare after this passage of the house bill. I predicted it a long time ago. I said its failing. Now its obvious. Its dead. We dont pay lots of ransom money to the Insurance Companies it would die immediately. Chris here are some steps. Premiums Under Obamacare went up 24 across the country. The average number of insurers in each marketplace has dropped from 5. 9 and 2015 to 3. 9 now. In iowa, there is only one Insurance Company left in all but five counties in iowa and they Just Announced they are thinking of dropping out so there would be only one Insurance Company. Whose fault is the spread before trump was elected there were no counties that didnt have an assure. Since he has been elected. Chris wait, youre going to blame the problems of obamacare on trump. We have a situation Under Obamacare where there was a one time premium freeze last year that made up for the fact that they massively underpriced in the first two years. The problem with fixed is that profits were trending positively and they were saying positive things about the bill succeeding and then you have a president who comes in, undercuts open enrollment, doesnt on of the application and premiums are going up and insurers are exiting. Chris we are running out of time and im interrupting both of you equally. Carl, your thoughts. He blamed it all on the insurers because the government told them to consider that they would get a lot more healthy, younger people than they actually got on any year this Programs Benefi in effect. Trump stopped the ads. The problems of obamacare can be solved with four days worth of
tv ads. Really . They also said not to enforce the individual mandate and that caused a disruption in the force. Obama delayed the mandate for two years and the employer mandate for a year end finally he talked about costsharing payments and that cause distress among the Insurance Companies. They are getting the costsharing payments despite the fact that a judge declared them illegal last year. Trump said he would pay them until the issue was resolved. Last october doctor gruber said the program was working exactly as designed. It was designed with this to pdd of the American People tilt into the calculations but it is a broken system. Chris okay i have to give doctor gruber the last 32nd. You have a system that was not working perfectly but was very fixable. The question it is working as
designed. Theres no reason for it to be fixed. No, the law could be improved, but instead of improving it, why do you take steps to undercut it and cause 24 Million People to lose Health Insurance. Thats not true. The cbo said people who do not have insurance, that is to say they would not buy insurance. Now, 24 muller million americans. [inaudible] chris thank you. We will continue this debate. Affect you, not how well will