Mark you have a presence in 1,000 College Campuses and high schools across the country. And daniel horowitz, you host a nationally syndicated podcast. A lot of people know you, you appear on radio a lot. You are considered one of our really sharp thinkers out there. I wanted to have you both on to talk about whats going on in this country. Im concerned about whats going on. Charlie, let me start with you. Our College Campuses seem to be the last holdout of the stalinist philosophy, the violence, the safe spaces, the triggering, all of these phrases i never heard of before. Whats going on . A lot. The greatest threat to our civilization is whats going on on our College Campuses. The suppression of free speech. Attack on the idea much america. The neomarxists makes you feel like you are entering a different country. I have visited hundreds of campuses across the country. Not once have i seen a conservative student or faculty member try to shout down a liberal when they come on campus. But almost daily. When i come on campus there are leftist activists petitioning for me not to be able to speak. They are trying to defund conservative groups on campus. They want to be the only viewpoint on campus. The college left hates the idea that there are other ideas. They want a total monopoly on the conversation. They are threatened by the very existence of a procon world view. Students hear both sides and they come somewhere in the middle and they are threatened by that. You are seeing them being effective in indoctrinating the next generation. If we dont properly reeducate and enlighten the next generation, well have a country completely unrecognizable. Mark is part of the problem the tenure, they cannot be removed, they cannot be challenged. So you dont have this competition of thought among professors. Thats correct. You look at the personality a architypes. S they dont c leave, they become professors because that enjoy that kind of culture. The tenure laws are outdated in is no checks and balances to remove these radical professors, and there is no ideological or intellectual diversity. University of california berkeley they have fulltime Staff Members dedicated to racial and ethnic diversity, but as soon as you raise your hand and talk about political or religious diversity. They say no we dont stand for that. We needd to have the free flow f ideas reenter tour College Campuses. St on College Campuses the most of intolerant people are those who preach tolerance. Mark the country is going broke among other reasons, turning education across the board. Wee seem to be suction dieing the lefts we seem to be subsidizing the left. We often die on their hills, not on our hills and our ideologies. To speak to what charlie was saying. Younger people in colleges are faced with the dynamic when they go into the world they have endless student death and endless costs from healthcare. And naturally if they are not offered a competing set of ideas, the free stuff will be enticing. But no one happens explained how the government has created an healthcare and the case cartel that inflated the costs commence wrat those subsidies. The Republican Party tends to agreet with what the democrats are offering. They operate within their pair dimes. As such the American People and certainly the younger generations will be attracted to those who offer it with a happy face rather than those who air it with a sour face. Mark what is the how do nonleftists get involved in the administration medication . It seems like a closed shop pretty much. It is. But if you look everywhere at a closed shop, there is a reason for it. The market didnt dictate it. There is always a governments intervention. The credit days is monopolized by government tilting of the statutes where the colleges run on a curriculum man dated by government. If we got the government out of education we would have the fre flow of ideas. In healthcare a lot of young people look at the system and say this is too expensive. We are being gouged so we need socialized medicine. Someoneov needs to say, government, medicare and medicaid. And medicaid gets their market share and uses that to gowjt consumer. We dont own the existing policies, they are not the result of free markets. They are a result of the Government Policies and only the free market policies can deconstruct that. We have to make the case, and unfortunately we are not seeing thatow from from ether party from either party. Despite the horror happening on our College Campuses, i have never been more optimistic about whats happening in this country. Turning points us parks, standing room only, selling out tickets like you wouldnt imagine. But i also look at the other speakers out there. Jordan peterson has the number one bestselling book on amazon getting millions of views on youtube. And he talks about things that shouldnt be controversial. There are only two genders. Thats considered the hate speech on College Campuses. Hell say men are better at some things and women are bert at some things. Shocking statement. Well win because the enemies of freedoms always overshoot their target. And because decentminded people in the middle will gravitate towards better ideas that are principled fan freedom. People between 1620 much more to the conservative side. Every study shows they are going way more conservative than the generation before them. We fix it with better ideas, better arguments, and well be the decent fairminded champions of liberty and freedom for a generation that feels lost in this sea of post modernism and neomarxism. Mark s what does the Republicn Party stand for now . If we are going to continue to dore the same thing over and over again. Well define the definition of insanity. Its been three decades since reagan and we have not found a home in the Republican Party. Republicans take a look at what charlie sees on the College Campuses and say this is so scary. We need to move further to left. But they are always going to vote for the authentic thing. Its not so much that the young generation is irrevocably lib val. Y but they are attracted to the strongest players on the block. They need to be offered new ideas. If you expect washington to fix itself i think we have enough examples its never going to happen ever. Republicans all three branches of government and 30 state governments and we are not seeing any new ideas. We need to fix it from without. We need grass the roots organizations. But ultimately it has to come from without. I dont think the republicansdemocrats are serving anyone. And to the extent Younger Voters are more attracted to new ideas, i think it will be through a new movement, not a tainted Republican Party that comes with a lot of baggage. Mark how do we do what daniel is talking about, a convention of states, the state legislatures, they send delegates, they have a meeting which they used to do all the time. And they can propose amendments to the constitution to try to hone in the federal government. Thats a big task. Im all for it, i have written by the. But in the meantime, could it be years. Do you want to give the Playing Field upng dome krat party where they control the house, the senate and presidency . Even now if they control the house and senate the current president will be stopped in his tracks. Im focusing on a short and longterm objective. The shortterm is to change the cancerous culture on College Campuses. If we dont get that right, our culture will be unrecognizable. The first component of culture is education. We have 1,800 major College Campuses across the country where postmodernism and neomarxism has run amok. The young people we are empowering need to run for office. They understand more than the current republican officials, they have fought the left headon. If you want to see what drives a leftist towards action, they dont ware for the t poor, they hate the rich. Its not that they have a benevolent view of the world. They want to watch it burn. We need to empower, equip and train the next mike lee and thomas massies. Why dont we make a goal to do that. Thats ambitious because there are people in both parties that dont want that. Mark the problem is its like sending diamonds into a landfill. We tried a lot of that. I was dealing with several primaries throughout the country wrather side will use their superior fears and special interest funding to run on our issues and paint the conservative guys pass the liberals and confuse the voters and we are not having a lot of success in primaries. In 2014, we were endorsing a lot of challenges. It needs to start with some of the sitting members. You have the Freedom Caucus and conservatives in the senate. We need a new contract with america. We need a new taxpayer and consumer bill of rights where like charlie said we are not just against the other side and hate the other side. Where we affirmatively stand for certain ideas. We stand for free markets. If we would do that. We would offer voters another a new idea, a new set of ideas, even within the republican ballot line, so you dont have the Ballot Access issue where you will give control to the democrats. They will run as republicans and it has to start with the sitting republicans. Mark ladies and gentlemen you can join me every single night onve levintv. Give us a tall, 844levin tv. s way. This ones below market price and has bluetooth. Same here, but this one has Leather Seats use the cars. Com app to compare price, features and value. Have discovered something strong. Dependable. Long lasting. They found themselves in a chevy truck. And now, you can too. 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All right, lets talk about free markets. You push free markets in our colleges and universities. Amazon is under attack, facebook is under attack, twitter is under attack. Theyre all leftwing. Lets admit it. Conservatives having difficulty dealing with all of them. Should the government get involved and regulate the entities . First and foremost, amazon in particular, very few people know theyre on the verge of signing one of the Largest Department of defense contracts in our history. 100 billion cloud contract for Amazon Web Services over ten years which would be subsidizing the entire amazon empire. Amazon in particular, the president s instincts are spoton here. Amazon loses money basically every vertical of the company except Amazon Web Services, they use preferential treatment to the u. S. Postal service, masters at using tax loopholes not to mention jeff bezos himself owns the Washington Post and uses that as battering ram over politicians in d. C. Every day. No one wants an unflattering article in the Washington Post. First and foremost, stop subsidizing this. Mark let me ask you this, what are they monopolizeing . Some people make the argument they are monopolizing Online Retail transactions, they have 40 . Exxonmobil controlled 42 of all domestic oil kind of transactions. How did the domestic Steel Industry controlled 70 of steel production. Right, we could put forth claims towards the different categories. As a free market guy, focus on the government contracts first and foremost should. Not get corporate handouts, especially one from the department of defense, 100 billion over ten years, and the president should absolutely veto and nix that completely and immediately. Mark what about facebook . Facebook is quite interesting. Heres what i cant figure out about facebook. Barack obama did even more than what Cambridge Analytica did in 2012. Barack Obama Campaign. They compromised the privacy of over 25 million americans. In fact, they bragged about it. The New York Times wrote a very flattering piece saying the Obama Campaign was technologically sophisticated and cutting edge to be able to use facebook as a way to run a modernday campaign. Zuckerberg didnt apologize after that. Zuckerberg didnt testify in front of congress. Make no mistake, the only reason zuckerberg testified in n front of congress and facebook is under attack, some of the data might have been used to help a republican get elected president of the united states. Nothing to do with privacy, nothing to do with internet rights or freedoms and everything to do with democrats who are upset that big tech monolith might have been used to aid a conservative candidate. Mark should they be regulateed . I dont necessarily think so. They should be treated as a public forum. That is an important distinction constitutionally and for the courts because theyre not a content provider. They need to be treated as a public forum which google pretends they are. Mark they are a private company, how do you treat it as a public forum . Thats the distinction. If they want google, for example, pretends theyre a public forum because they allow different voices and opinions to be heard. Facebook is not in the content creation space, they aggregate other peoples content. Are they a public forum or Public Company . Could still be a private company and operate as a, quote, public forum and censor different voices. A conservative far more likely to get censored on facebook than anyone else which represents a huge threat to the first amendment. Mark so dont use facebook. Thats the issue. They have 2. 1 billion active users. Mark they have 2. 1 and one less. Thats correct. It would take a lot of cultural realignment to stop using instagram owned by facebook. Whatsapp is owned by facebook and facebook in general. I get a lot of my followers and forced multipleication through facebook. Its the devil you have to use which i dont think government regulation is the best way to go about it. Mark amazon, facebook, whats your take . In fact, when it comes to government regulations, sometimes they are a more potent weapon for the incumbent powers within a market than subsidies are. Because they use them to box out competition. I dont think they would work. Im kind of black and white when it comes to this. Private property that i think a lot of us have forgotten about. When it comes to a persons private property, i have the right to use my company, my livelihood for what i want, you have the right to pay the ronnize it or start your own thing. Basically federal courts are giving random plaintiffs standing to sue President Trump for blocking them on twitter. Now trumps own twitter account he could use any way he wants. Twitter, likewise, could offer a twitter account to anyone they want or deny it to anyone including the president. They could deny it to me. Its incumbent upon conservatives to start their own platform. I know its difficult but unlike health care where 60 of the incumbent Insurance Cartel organizations, 60 of their revenue comes from government funding, Government Programs such as medicare and medicaid, in this case, it is a free market, just difficult to break into. We got to take that initiative and this is an example where we could be very consistent that on the one hand you have the right to take your organization and make it as political as you want, on the other hand, i have the right with my private property to service what i want. Mark do we trust the federal government to referee . No. Mark speech. It can only be worse. They can only make it worse. Like i said mark where is the federal government ever properly refereed speech . Never, never, because again those that already have market share and economies of scale will use the regulations to their advantage. So i think for conservatives social media is a tough path to plow. Mark isnt the truth let me say this, we may have to take it to the next segam. We dont know what the next technology, is the next platform is going to be. If you talked about facebook 20 years ago nobody would know what facebook is. There may be something out, there somebody out, there somebody sitting in their dorm room at harvard at this time who is not zuckerberg but somebody else that comes up with something that makes it even oldfashioned to be on facebook and so forth. So heres the you brought up the key point here. Be very careful, if theres a regulation that tries to regulate facebook, i guarantee you zuckerberg will have the best team of lobbyists that protects the company more than anything else so it prevents the next competitor from rising up. That is the story of regulation over the last 100 years. Like the Auto Companies. Or doddfrank. Protects the incumbent. The Auto Companies, notice trump is easing the cafe standards. I expect the Auto Companies to