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Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Geraldo At Large 20141026

Alshe back. They are operating outside the cell structure. Now from studio j at fox news headquarters, here is greta van susteren. The threat of lone wolf attacks at the forefront of everyones mind. New threats to the homeland and attacks in canada have everyone on alert. But lone wolves turned terrorists are nothing knew. We took a look at their dangerous history. Lone wolves by and large are individuals that are inspired, id logically but may not have a formal connection to a terrorist organization. Frank is the director of the Homeland Security policy unit at George Washington university. He has researched lone wolf terrorists. Thats why these are the most difficult cases because theyre not going come under terrorist surveillance. Its a very different type of terrorist. As part of an Ongoing Investigation of homegrown terrorism, fox news interviewed the author of the book leaderless jihad. You see the lone actor or the lone wolf. That is the hardest nut to crack here. Absolutely. There is no leakage of information. The first time i remember discussing lone wolves is with the socalled unabomber, ted kaczynski. Timothy mcveigh was one of the fist. The d. C. Sniper is clearly a lone case. The beltway sniper attacks terrorized the beltway capital. I was working with counterterrorism issue it had a psychological effect. This man, John Allen Muhammad with his accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo killed ten people. The seat of the car lifts so that mohamed or malvo could crawl into the trunk and shoot without leaving the vehicle. Clearly, he was id logically motivated. Mohamed wasnt a member of an organization but he was motivated by his hatred for america. After the two were captured in 2002, malvo testified the plan was to kill six whites a day for a month. Today the internet has become indispensable for radicalizing lone wolves. A Positive Side to the internet and it connects also to dark corners of the web. There are ominous clouds gathering in your horizon. Anwar alawlaki inspired countless people to john line jihad with his online sermon. America is a nation of evil. One follower was this 21yearold british student from east london. In the uk lone wolves are referred to as nike terrorists. Cloudry downloaded more than 100 hours of sermons and in 2010, she heeded the call. She tried to kill a member of parliament as he met with his constituents. These images show chowdry before the attack. This was a young woman who was inspired on the internet and acted on her views. She wasnt the only individual inspired online and acted as a lone wolf. Obviously at the top of the list is nidal hasan. He was a loner looking for religious guidance. He was inspired by alawlaki. The important of people like awlaki is that it solidifies peoples believe. It gives you the justification. You not a criminal or murderer. Hasan turned into a lone wolf. He bought a semiautomatic pistol and a large amount of ammunition. On november 5, 2009 he opened fire on fort hood, killing 14 and wounding 30 others. It was an act of jihadistbased terrorism. Now locked up at fort level leavenworth, kansas. Consider the man who wanted to blow up the new york subway. And the cztsarnaev brothers who bombs at the new york city marathon. And the man who beheaded a former coworker in moore, oklahoma. And isis has put out a call for lone wolves to attack. They are playing a psychological war. We have to call them for what they are, rats. Joining us is former u. S. Attorney general and former federal judge michael mukasey. And the director of George Washington Homeland Security poli policy institute. With isis there has been a call to people to do this directly but is it more this ideology out there and everyone sort of says they are doing it in the name of the ideology without a specific direction. What we are seeing in our reporting here at Fox News Channel in the last five years is this has become a movement and set of ideas. Its not something you can drone out of existence. You have to really deal with the ideology first. So when people are inspired to act, to be self starters, the term lone wolf is not a bad term. But i agree with the judge, few of these people can do this without some kind of support network whether it is a network with physical help like explosives or weapons or whether its ideological support to give them the confidence to go forward with the mission. There is a difference between the underwear bomber who got some training, but it didnt work out well but its he had training and direction. What happened in canada, it seems like i dont see, no mosque or no Certain Group or some radical said, heres your vest or suicide vest or heres your gun. Its early on in terms of the investigation itself. The terrorist threat comes in various shapes, sizes and forms. Obviously given there are thousands of westerners fighting alongside isis in iraq and syria today those that get training and experience in improvised explosive devices or the like will be a greater threat from a potential to cause catastrophic attacks. But the reality is there will be many that dont go overseas or hit any trip wires who wont have that training but can cause harm. If you look at what happened in canada this week, not only the shooting yesterday but also just people mowing soldiers over. An event in jerusalem where a hamas inspired individual killed an american baby. Heres the Common Thread that you see that started in 2009 which is a selection of the u. S. Military as a target. And a canadian military. And in this case, the canadian military. Thank you. The reason thats important is these are symbols that have weight. Its not just an attack on an individual. When that shooter walked up to Parliament Hill in ottawa, they went for the soldier at one of the most symbolic sites in that country. That was an attack on the canadian identity and canadian pride. Its the same in the United States. Weve seen that here with the shooting of an Army Recruiter by a jihadi. And again, focused on the armed forces and focused on really telling people here that you cant be protected by the people who are supposed to protect you. Panel, stay with us. Four murders on two coasts. Alley Mohamed Brown says he did in the name of jihad. But is he a lone wolf. Patented Sonic Technology with up to 27 more brush movements. Get healthier gums in two weeks. Innovation and you Philips Sonicare save when you give Philips Sonicare this holiday season. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. From biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo. Startupny has new businesses popping up across the state. See how startupny can help your business grow at startup. Ny. Gov. Just like the lone wolves in canada many radicalized attackers have a criminal shisry. Ali Muhammad Brown is one of them. On june 26th, 2014 the body of a new jersey resident was found shot to death in the familys jeep. The vehicle was abandoned here. Home for the summer after his freshman year in virginia, the popular student and lacrosse player had been shot eight times. When brendans body was found it was collapsed into the floor of the passenger seat. Mark diano is a veteran reporter for the star ledger newspaper. The crime that happened here is shocking in its location to many people. I never thought not if this area. That something so horrific could have happened. It was on the Athletic Field of Seton Hall Prep School that i met up with his grieving parents. Brendan had spent the evening at a friends house in west orange and texted his mother he was on his way home. What time did you get the text . 11 32. Four hours later, the police knocked on their front door. I could see on his face. I think i grabbed him and said no. No. Not brendan. And he said, yes, its brendan. And he was he was murdered. But why would anyone want to kill brendan . He was just a bright young man, a friendly young man. He enjoyed school. He enjoyed his athletics and sports. He was such a good young fella. The murder of brendan had the police baffled. They didnt know what happened. It was in a very nice neighborhood. The viciousness of it. You know, they couldnt figure out. But what no one knew was that a selfproclaimed self jihadist had taken refuge in the woods around the multimillion dollar homes in west orange. Its beautiful. You are on the mown answer the. You have incredible views of manhattan. Living in two makeshift camps behind apartments was ali Muhammad Brown. He is a convicted sex offender with ties to a terror camp in the mask northwest. There was stuff in the notebook about hiding among the rich and the police will never find you. No one knows how but on june 29th he made his way to Point Pleasant beach. He attempted to carjack a man outside the green planet coffee shop. He pulled the guy out of the car, jumped in the car and realized he couldnt drive a stick shift. When he left that scene he left incriminated evidence there, went to a stop and shop and used the bathroom there. To change. And again left a bag behind with incriminating evidence. Brown was caught at a Security Camera where he left behind the bag with a 9 millimeter magazine and fingerprints. When he robbed a man at the crest ridge apartments, police started looking for the assay lent. They apprehended him then. Police arrested him and his gun would be tied to a series of crimes. It was then that brown made a stunning confession. He said he picked brendan at random at this interaction as he waited at a traffic light. He said he murdered him in the name of jihad. Brown pulled up behind brendan with two other men. He went to the passenger side and simply opened fire on him and shot at him ten times and hit him eight times. Brown dumped the jeep at the apartment complex. Its about a mile and a quarter from the intersection where he was shot. Brown parked it around here in one of these spaces. Brown described himself as a devout muslim and said that the murder was a just kill, as pay back for the United States involvement in the middle east. He has made statements saying he was doing this as revenge for what is going on in iraq and syria and afghanistan. In our opinion, he is a murderer and whether its down the road, the Law Enforcement comes to the conclusion that he is involved with something bigger, i figure the truth will come out. On august 4th, authorities announced the arrest of brown and two accomplices. For the murder of brendan. They have yet to reveal the connection between brown and his accomplices. But all three pled not guilty and are being held here at the Essex County Jail in newark. Its a complicated case and they are really working hard on it to find the whole truth to it. Were back with our panel. Judge, these cases are easy to prosecute because they leave a lot of clues behind or they are shot dead on the scene. The big challenge is to get them before they commit the crimes and here was this Young College student. It was random. It wasnt like he was in the military and a target. Totally random. The only way to the that is to gather as much intelligence about the imams and others spreading the message and the websites that are spreading the message and find out who is tuning into those and thats the only way to stop it. I assume they are aggressively doing this, but are they breaking a lot of these stories before they get to the random shooting on the street . What you hear privately from investigators is two things. One that they feel they are somewhat hamstrung by . By the rules. By the understanding that theyre pulling back and this is not only recently but in the last five to eight years, pulling back from doing surveillance at religious sites. The fbi does not want to engage in that. They want to engage with the community. And its politically correct. Everyone who says weirdo things that happen around a mosque it is politically correct to go find more. At the end of the day its the ideology. We do need to paraphrase but how do we get around that . At the end of the day its about un and undergoverned spaces. Same with the internet. When authorities took a closer look at ali Muhammad Browns background it was just the tip of the iceberg. Three murderers and a seattle barber raging jihad in somalia. ] [ inhales deeply ] [ sighs ] [ inhales ] [ male announcer ] at cvs health, we took a deep breath. [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] and made the decision to quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. Now we invite smokers to quit, too, with our comprehensive program. We just want to help everyone, everywhere, breathe a little easier. Introducing cvs health. Because health is everything. Welcome back to greta investigates. We went to Washington State to investigate other crimes that ali Muhammad Brown committed. Brendan wasnt the only person that ali brown says he killed for jihad. Browns 9 millimeter handgun has been linked to three previous homicides, executionstyle murders committed in seattle, washington. The on the night of april 7, 2014, Leroy Henderson walked home in the skyway section of seattle when he was murdered in a hail of ten bullets. Two men were murdered in the neighborhood of leschi. Terrorism came to my front door and took my son. They shared memories of the young man. He was the son that everybody wanted to have. He was just always wanting to learn new things. And he had a good work eth wiic he said i wanted to work. Rather than asking for money he would say what can i do. He didnt wait for opportunities to come to him. He created his own. As he grew into his own. As he just approached his teenaged years he was struggling with his sexuality. And he came out at 14 wane toan me he was gay. After graduating high school in 2009 he earned a bachelors degree in communications from the university of washington. In 2014 he had just landed a job at a Consulting Firm and growing his own web design business. He was really look forward to his future and the opportunities. And for his life to be cut so short, its just its so sad. On the night of may 31st, 2014 his friend, a 27yearold somali american offered him a ride home from the nightclub r place and offered a ride to another man that he had met on a website. That man was ali Muhammad Brown. Several of their friends that, you know, he just didnt look like he fit in with the crowd. They all got in the car and thats thats the last that they saw of him. Alive. These charging documents state ali Muhammad Brown pulled out his 9 millimeter handgun and essentially executed the two inside the vehicle. He is a terrorist and for whatever reason he was going to call th kill them that night. I dont know if it was because he had a muslim gay, i dont know. In his 29 years, ali Muhammad Brown left a trail of depraved crime and violence. Court documents show he was charged with child rape before pleading guilty to lesser accounts. Two mothers of his children filed for Domestic Violence protection with allegations of strangulation and punching. One stated that brown dropped my tendayold daughter on the ground. Our team went to seattle to look deeper into browns past. David gomez and David Rubicam are former members of seattles joint Terrorism Task force. In 2004 we were looking at the fundraising for overseas support of terrorism. At the center of the investigation was this barbershop from hell. Brown hung out there with its owner. Ruben shumpert was a prison convert to islam. He learned to cut hair in prison while ruben was trying to indoctrinate students into radical islam by showing videos about al qaeda. I had a piece of that investigation that involved an imam at the mosque. Ruben shumpert and others would attend the mask and the imam we saw him going to crescent cuts. He was a vocal proponent of jihad. At the time, the mask was 500 feet away from the barbershop. We had reports that a father took his son to get a haircut hears what is being said and drags his son out of there, and says no, this was supposed to be a haircut, not jihad. In 2004 after an investigation, the barbershop was raided. Members of the joint Terrorism Task force executed 19 search and arrest warrants and included among those people was to be arrested but ali Muhammad Brown, his two brothers and a Co Conspirator on the Financial Institution fraud. Shumpert was already in jail for assaulting the owners of the restaurant below crescent cuts. They were convicted of fraudulently depositing checks and spending the money. As we reread the indictment, browns older brother claimed the money was to help our muslim brothers and sisters in the cause because you cant go to war broke. The fbi conduct an investigation and was unable at that time to prove that any of the moneys had been sent overseas in support in a Material Support of terrorism. Ruben shumpert pled guilty to gun and counterfeiting charges. He wrote this letter asking for leniency in his sentencing. He claimed he was a changed man, citing his muslim faith and complained about fox news. He made a good case that he was not a bad guy. But he was a bad guy. He decided to flee the jurisdiction of the court and travel to somalia where he wanted to fight with al shabab. I thi

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