We spend more time talking about what do you call it as opposed to what do you do about it. Really. If fox didnt talk about this, they would have nothing else to talk about. Is holder just blaming the messenger . And rudy juliangiuliani mounting a media blitz and being pressed by megyn kelly. Mr. Mayor, do you want to apologize for your comment . Not at all. Is the press being fair to the former mayor . Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. Bill oreilly hit back hard against the mother jones speech challenging his war reporting. David corn writing that the fox news host had suggested he was in the falklands islands covering the 1982 are war between britain and arrest again see in a. Basically david corn, a layer, says i exaggerated situations. Oreilly says hes allege made clear as a cbs correspondent, he covered a violence protest in argentina in the wars after math. I was there in the street with my camera crews. The violence was horrific. Soldiers fired into the crowd who were responding with violence acts of that ieir own. I never said i was on the falklands islands as corn purports. I said i covered the talk lands war, which i did. Bill owe reallyreilly gets out there and calls me a liar. Lands war, which i did. Bill oreilly gets out there and calls me a liar. Says he didnt say what he said and hes accusing me of pedaling garbage and swil and not really responding to the issue. And joining me now by phone is bill oreilly. Bill, lets start with the latest developments, former cbs correspondent in argentina at the time taking you on you in a facebook posting. He says that oreilly has been correct in describing the situation as somewhat dicey for reporters. Well get into the details in a moment. But he says this was a pretty tame writing. Your reaction. Its absurd. I mean it might have been tame for him because i dont know if he was there. I asked him to come on the program. He turned us down. But hes running over to cnn, but he cant come on to my program. Eric aimburg was there, and by the way, all of cbs correspondents that was there, five, were sent to cover the falklands war. Thats what we were told. So that everybody should know. That was the description of what our job was to be. So eric aimburg is calling the riot that happened after the arrest again tine surrendered a quote, relatively tame riot. This is the article written on june 15 1982. Im quoting. Policemen firing tear gas tine disbursed thousands of angry arrest again types who condemned the government surrendering to the britt pish fp tesch. Again types who condemned the government surrendering to the britt pish fp tesch. Police in riot gear moved in firing tear gas canisters and roaring through the plaza on motorcycles. Hundreds fled to the side streets shouting obscenities as police fired gas others ripped down wooden street sign, set them on fire. Fires appeared as demonstrators threw wastebaskets into them and says them ablaze. One large gray van pulled in to an intersection a block from the plaza, Police Seized anyone they could. One policeman pulled a miss top firing five shots. Leaders of the Ten Political parties deannounced police. Top firing five shots. Leaders of the Ten Political parties deannounced police. Several reported that they had been injured. Local News Agencies said three buses have been set ablaze by demonstrate tors. Another one fired upon. It was a type seldom seen since 1986. Aimburg is suspicious there was actually gunfire. Hes suspicious of the New York Times then. Okay . Not me. Hes stus pish issuesus pish house of the New York Times. They reported that. Now, you have said . Describing this episode that your photographer was run down, hit in the head, he was bleeding. The army was chasing you guys. Aimburg said i never heard of any injuries. Sdwr and i dont think he was there. I left the hotel and he was still in the hotel. I came running back that night and he was in the hotel. So if he was this in the plaza, where was the video . Why did i have to run it up to the feed point . So i dont even know if he was there. Id like everybody to ask him, were you you there. Because his reputation respect his nickname was Room Service Eric. That he never left the hotel. One more point from the aimburg facebook posting. He says you violated the Bureau Chiefs orders by having your camera turn on lights to shoot footage. Totally absurd. I was there in the daytime. No order was given for me about anything. We turned on a light one time so i could do a stand up with feel falling around me on a side street. It lasted for about 30 seconds. I didnt know of any order or anything like that. I was working. Okay . I was working this whole situation. I mean this is such a smear. S it is unbelievable. June 13 youreuruguay, and i covered the casualties coming back from the hms destroyed by the Argentine Air force. I didnt see eric aimburg there. Do you believe this criticism is personal . Yeah, because in 1998, i laced him for big footing. Why dont you tell the audience what big footing is howard. Big footing is when a journalist such as yourself is covering a story and another better known journalist comes in and basically does either writes the article does the stand up i guess in your case, and you complained about this in a book Bob Schieffer came in and you left cbs afterwards. Thats right. So this has been in place since 1998. Now, youre a News Reporter formally. Correct. If you write an article and send it in and another reporter puts their that i amname on the article, what is that called . Begins with a p. Ive always called it big footing. What is it called in print . Ill let you you tell me. Planlg orer are rimp. But if youre a colleague working together i wasnt working with these guys. My crews were magnificent. Roberto got hurt, okay . And we tended to roberto but he was a tough guy and, you know i left him to run the video back to the bureau. And then i went back. And subsequently he was okay. But he got knocked down. We had to get him out so that he didnt get anymore damage. But they did a fabulous job. This is such a smear and its a coordinated smear. Do you know that eric aimburg was written as one of the worst correspondents on cbs newses into how he smeared steve forbes is this. I know there is an mossity there. I know better than any is part of your program he was working at cbs then. Im saying he is now a fox you news contributor. It didnt matter. He wrote that book fafr before he was on fox. I understand. Let me get you to the bottom line here. Because seems to me in my analysis of this that the mother jones piece ultimately if you boil it down comes down to this semantic question. You have said you covered a combat situation in argentina. Youve said war zones of the talk land conflict. Do you wish you had wored edd wordeded if it differently . No. When you have soldiers and military place firing mr. To the crowd as the New York Times reports and you have people injured and hurt and youre in the middle of that thats a definition. All right. This is splitting hairs, trying anything they can to bring done me because of thewn me because of the Brian Williams situation. This liar corn wrote in his original piece that i hammered Brian Williams. Is that true howard . No, i know for a fact thats not true because i was on there with you the first night you know for a fact it isnt true. And everybody who saw me on fox news knows it isnt true. So why does david corn have any credibility at all . Why . Youre saying that no, why does he have any credibility anywhere if he lied in his article about something that demonstrable why would anybody, cnn or anybody else take anything else he says seriously . Why. Well corn has been a washington reporter for a long time and some people respect his work. Who . Name one. You cant. He is a hatchet man. You know he is. Hes from the far left and all of this is driven tell ter at cnn, you dont get more far left than this guy. Former New York Times guy. Google him. Just over the years. Look final word, howard, these guys want to come after me im here. Anybody who says my reporting in argentina was erroneous, they can come on tomorrow night. I got calls into dan rather i got calls in to all the cbs brass at the time. Im going to get the video. I think they will give to us tomorrow so they can see for themselves. They can see it. I with an everybody to read the New York Times article. Its up. You can get it. 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Xfinity customers add xfinity home for 29. 95 a month for 12 months. Plus for a limited time, get a Free Security camera call 1800 xfinity or visit comcast. Com xfinityhome. Bill oreilly is still on the phone. Joining us now is david zurawik, television and media critic for the baltimore sun. You just heard mr. Oreilly defend himself. You read what eric aimburg wrote about what happened in because knows arrows. Room service eric . This is a really fierce battle now. That was one of the questions Room Service Eric . This is a really fierce battle now. That was one of the questions that made me hesitant when the story first came out thursday night, was the source of it mother jones and the most prominent person on fox tv. So immediately you have the ideological component to it. Which made me wary of it. If you didnt have that, thats one of the many ways this is not the Brian Williams sorry. Ss story. Stars and stripes david corn used to be a contribute to the fox. He was not renewed. Hes now at msnbc. But the headline of that mother jones piece was bill oreilly has his own Brian Williams problem. Was that headline the tone of the piece in your view, objective, was it fair . Two things. One, i understand the impulse in the clutter of media to try to severally guy stories. Because Brian Williams was such a big story, try to link this to thing. I dont think it was warranted in this sense. Ill give you another way its not warranted. Brian williams was this charge of a nightly newscast seen by 9 million. Theyre receipt technically as managing i had it tore and anchor, he decided what went into that newscast. Thats a position of journalistic, tremendous journalistic responsibility. Bill owe bill oreillys show has a very different agenda and no one says these are journal ris tick istic entities. So there is a difference right there. Bill do, you you agree that this has information ofmorphed into a culture war . From the very beginning i said this was a political hit piece. But i want to make it clear it on david zurich thatawik that you you wrote last my, you want to hear more i want to i want to hear more, too. Bill, let me answer. What i want to do is be able to talk to him. I want to ask him questions. And heres what you ask him. Were you there in the plaza . Because i didnt see him. And as i told howard, when i left the hotel he was in the hotel, when i got back he was in the hotel. And didnt have any video until i showed up. So if you were there what the hell were you doing. And then you can ask him about big footing. And how he stayed in the hotel and the correspondents who went out and put themselves at risk had to come back and he took all their individual and putvideo and put his name on it. And they did that crap all the tile. And anybody challenging my report being down there, have them come on. Mle. And anybody challenging my report being down there, have them come on. How can eric aimburg is not on with me . Hes on cnn. Networks havent touched it. Do you think this is getting traction as a story or because it comes down there is no dispute bill oreilly was in argentina, that it fades after a couple days . If you had asked me this friday night i would have said it was down trending. As a matter of fact, ive been trying to find it on twitter. I think it only trended for a brief moment and that was when it was announced that bill oreilly was going to take it on on his show. I think now with the back and forth, it does because dont forget, this is 33 years ago. But these are big names involved thousand. And theyre questioning each others memories. Look bill oreillys strategy is pure bill oreilly. But its going to and i think they will be studying this in have a tenlg tooic icstrategic communications and pr courses. Do you think by responding so aggressively theyre trying to impune my career and smear me. Nobodys going to do that. Okay . And if anybody contradicts what i have said, they need to come on my program and look me will in the eye. Eric aimburg is a coward. He could come on and say this didnt happen, i was there, i saw this. I want david, and you howie, to call up aimburg and ask him if he was there. Okay some id like to know if he was there. And if he was, why he had no video. I would welcome the chance to talk to him. And i know you got to run. Well have more on this. Were trying to get wrather, erwrather, trying to get the president of cbs news at the time. Theyre telling me we will have the video that my guys shot. We should have it all tomorrow. Clearly the story is not over. Thanks, bill. And well look at whether the networks gave both sides of the debate in their coverage of the president s legal setback on his immigration executive order. But up next, james rosen weighs in on the fewer error of marie harf talking about the root causes behind isis. E. Its a full day for me, and i love it. 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With jen psaki taking over the white house communications, how are her relationships with reporters . I think by and large pretty good among the press corps oig i think shes well cared. She and marie are har of knew their brief. I of course as a fox News Reporter wasnt getting the authorized leaks that some other reporters might have. Its in secret fox news is not the most popular outlet in the administration. So when you dealt with them any particular edge or blow back . No i think we got along pretty well given all circumstances. Any area in which you fault them, with bill oreilly, for example . Sure there was that time when jen and maria ascribed sexism to bill oreilly. I didnt think there was any basis for it. I think so some occasions giving a thumbs up while smiling about fairly serious matters might not have been well advised, but i think they command the respect of the press corps. The comments on we cant win the war militarily, some pundits saying this is jobs for a jihadists, your take. I think that this all mostly emanates from maries interview with Chris Matthews. And thing Chris Matthews led the charge in taking the remarks out of context. I think maries point was eminently sensible whic