Believe that the draw goes to the challenger in the sense that trump did not go over the line and that is Donald Trumps problem. Not that he didnt do enough homework because there is no amount of homework he could possibly do that could change who he is. I thought she clobbered him, that it wasnt even close. The impression was show controlled the ball. He was on the defensive and he utterly failed to address her singular weakness which is the perception that she is unworthy of trust. I had a great time. I know you are saying the polls werent scientific every poll that was taken i won the debate and some by a lot. Several unnamed said he did poorly because he couldnt concentrate during debate prep. Lester holt getting panned for being way softer on clinton than trump. This is media buzz. Dueling spinning in the wake of the first president ial debate watched by a record 84 million people. That prompted a wide array of questions for kelly conway. We spoke earlier from trump tower. Welcome. Hi. Thanks for having me sdprmpt when thanks for being here. Several unnamed advisers told the New York Times that they dont feel the candidate paid enough attention in the debate prep. What does it say that some of your own people are saying this to reporters . I think he did a fine job at the debate. I think he had a great strong punches at Hillary Clinton about her record on trade, certainly on helping to create the vacuum on which isis appeared and has been doing ever since. I also thought that you saw in the debate on monday night was there was no mistaking who represents the past and future and represents the status quo, who the true outsider is, who represents washington. None of that changes with one debate. We look forward to future debates. Let me come back to my question. Donald trump tweeted this on friday. Anytime you see a story about me or my campaign saying sources said, do not believe it. There are no sources just made up lies. Can you tell me that nobody in your campaign talks on background to reporters . I dont know because i dont know what other people do. I will tell you that this place is very unified. After Hillary Clinton in the debate brought out the former Miss Universe who says that donald trump called her miss piggy 20 years ago he brought her up and said she needed to lose weight. And then friday donald trump tweeted did crooked hillary help disgusting alicia m become a u. S. Citizen so she could use her in the debate . He is fuelling Media Coverage of the story. Why does he continue to attack this woman . Here are the facts. He did not say she had to lose weight. What the fact is that the company that was in charge, as i understand it, they wanted to terminate her and he helped give her a second chance. Hannity on his radio show friday played a clip where he said some people had a problem with her weight, i did not. He gave her a second chance. Hillary clinton wanted to throw this in there in the last couple of minutes of the debate. I know she had a check list to run through and that was part of it. Well keep moving on. I know people want to continue to talk about this but lot of other things like talk to actual voters and talk about policy. It is more fun to look at a twitter feed or to try to do some zingers. My point is that the media was talking about it because donald trump continues to tweet about it. Donald trump said the debate was rigged. Do you believe the debate was rigged . So donald trump i think he has been looking at some data since the debate. We see objective analysis that he was interrupted 41 times and then he feels i know today the commission put out his microphone was faulty in the hall. I just saw that report on friday. I think what surprised him is the number of questions that related to things about donald trump. Obama care which has been a disaster. Last sunday the New York Times, the Washington Post and politico ran stories about what they described as the lies and in some cases half truths that donald trump had told just in the past week. How do you fight that kind of narrative . Given the on slot and i would note that those stories all followed a fullcourt press by team clinton to make sure everybody is Fact Checking and everybody is calling him out. Hillary clinton has five people taking the fifth. They have been granted immunity in an active investigation including her lawyer who turned around and was her lawyer in the same investigation. It is very frustrating. I think the voters look through it. There is not a lot of evidence that the way the campaign is being covered is the way that voters see it. If that werent true then Hillary Clinton would be winning with 87 of the vote. People can scream bias and unfairness. That is one thing and that will be obvious or not so obvious into naked eye and ear. The main point about the coverage is it is incomplete. For every 15 stories you have about something donald trump said or did you have no story or one story on the immunity. Why wasnt there more outrage about howard dean, former governor and president ial candidate and current analyst suggesting that donald trump is using cocaine . I criticized that. Trump said he wasnt going to Say Something extremely rough about Hillary Clinton which he said was a reference to bill clinton past sexual misconduct. The media are covering it. Arent you having it both ways . He could have done it in front of a debate stage. We knew she was going to attack him on women because that is what she does. How could she miss the chance . She rushed to get through at the end. She has mail pieces targeting women. She has tens of millions of dollars in negative ads. Those dont talk about her plans for health care and education. She doesnt call it that or lowering taxes but she goes after him on this issue. He was prepared for that. He gets no credit for being you said you were advising him not to go down the monica road. You think that is a distraction at this point . Did i say that . You seemed to say it on the view. They asked me what do you think about this. The fact is he makes his own decisions as to what he is going to say. He is the candidate and he is his own person. We knew she would hit him with women. There are many ways to answer that question. And i will do it now. Mr. Trump has employed thousands of women and promoted many of them to the most senior positions in his corporation and his campaign. He has been very generous with time and money to a number of people over his life and career. He actually has policies that would help women. Why isnt Hillary Clinton asked why 16 million women are in poverty or over 12 million dont have Health Care Benefits sgrmpt had thanks for joining us. Thank you. And joining me now to analyze the Campaign Coverage senior political reporter for usa today. Molly hemmingway and columnist for the daily beast. That interview was done before New York Times story this morning about donald trump lost nearly a billion dollars and declaring that on his 1995 tax returns. The subhead here is trump tax records revealed show he could have avoided paying tax records. Is this a felony to publish without permission. Should New York Times have done it . Lets read the story and what trumps lawyers said. We are still hours into researching this. Initial read of the First Amendment does show there is a total shield for journalists who publish documents that are legally obtained and that are a matter of public concern. I think the times was very careful to document how they obtained these documents, they didnt break any laws. Somebody sent this to a reporter. So im not a legal expert, but it is unclear at this point and the lawyer didnt specify under what they would sue him for. There is the journalistic question and media going hay wire this morning. I dont see much debate. People were very excited about this and seem to think it is quite the scandal. Im not sure that frenzy is matched by what we are learning which is he took a huge bet on investments and gambling and other related issues. Like the way the headline was issued he could have not paid taxes for 20 years. That partly is his own fault for not releasing taxes. Very bizarre to put such an ambiguous and speculative headline on the front page of a paper. I think it does sort of confirm for donald trump that the media are not giving him a fair shake. Trump tweeting i know our complex laws better than anyone who ever ran for president. We dont know and the times doesnt know if he paid no taxes for the next 18 years but if it is true would be perfectly legal. There is legal and then how does it look to people. Every candidate has released tax returns. He made this an issue by not releasing them. Who broke the clinton email server story . The New York Times, the same newspaper. It seems they said she could have broken the law, could have violated national security, could have leaked secret intelligence. If could have is good enough for her it is good enough for trump. I cant imagine anybody who wouldnt run this story. Let us know what you think. Media buzz on twitter. We will hear from the Clinton Campaign. When we come back our panel on the coverage of the debate and those unnamed trump advisers and their damaging leaks to the press. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton mixed it up at the long island debate. Trump took aim at a familiar target. A lot of these are judgment questions. You have supported the war in iraq before the invasion. I did not support the war in iraq. That is a Mainstream Media nonsense put out by her because she the best person in her campaign is Mainstream Media. Hillary clinton invited the media to back her up. At least i have a plan to fight isis. You are telling the enemy everything you want to do. No we are not. You are telling the enemy everything you want to do. No wonder you have been fighting isis your entire adult life. Go to the fact checkers. Get to work fact checkers. Remarkable story in the New York Times quoting seven unnamed trump advisers saying he had an erratic debate and didnt concentrate or focus enough during prep. What do you make of the idea that the story is fiction and that the idea that at least some of trumps people would vent in this fashion . It wasnt fiction. They talked to a number of advisers. There are a few different possible interpretations. One is that his own advisers find this is the best way to get through to their candidates. As much as he despises the media he consums it and this is a good way to get the message. The second is the use of the word advisers. Is this really his immediate circle of advisers or are these people outside who talk to the press and also still talk to trump . The most unflattering interpretation is this is what we saw when the Clinton Campaign in 2008. We see an erosion of loyalty. We dont know who those advisers were. Its true that people are a little too reliant on Anonymous Sources and too focussed on this action. I think there were many interesting questions out of the debate. I think he didnt do as poorly as many people said. She didnt do as well as they thought. You are seeing a gap that this is absolutely disastrous for donald trump and the public which might be more divided . She did well. She did well. Her numbers improved. I dont think it particularly hurt him and he was able to get his core message out about the direction of the country going the wrong way. As far as she did i dont know how well she did. My own unnamed source said the debate press was a mess and that donald trump is very mad at these leagues which suggests he takes them seriously. They are not fiction. He just said that. He says a lot of things. All of us who have covered campaigns have done these stories and have seen these stories. When a campaign is frustrated and unraveling these sources come in contact with reporters and tell them stories. When a campaign is going better these things dont happen. I covered Hillary Clintons first senate race closely. By the end the campaign was here is a named source on the record interview donald trump with the New York Times which ran over the weekend in which he comes out and says Hillary Clinton was an enabling and she attacked women that bill clinton mistreated afterwards. Surrogates have been doing it and media giving us lots of coverage. Is trump getting us to do his dirty work . He is a master at controlling us. We cover whatever he says including the midnight tweets. I think as we go down this road well see what happens in the next debate but i think we in the media have to keep this very fact based because donald trump goes after bill clinton that is one thing. If he goes after Hillary Clinton we have to stay narrowly focussed and posing the question was she an enabler as he says . Was she a family protector and go back and look at those statements. She made unflattering statements about the women. The post in their story concluded that there wasnt an actual war room to go against them. If donald trump continues to talk about that youll see more stories like that. All of this, paula jones, jennifer flowers, media covered this in explicit and exhaustive details in the 90s. Is it relevant to bring it up now or do we have no choice if one wants to make a major issue. A lot of journalists pretend it is just a bill clinton story. They are uncurious about rumors in the present day in the way reminiscent of john edwards campaign. This isnt about bill clinton at all. This is about Hillary Clinton and her handling of the scandals. They are damaging specifics they should be mentioning. Her hiring, the way her Law Firm Partners brought in every woman to threaten to keep silent. These are things that have nothing to do with bill clinton but do speak to her and whether she is willing to defame women. If the press goes down this road are they obligated to talk about trumps three marriages and the frenzy over his relationship with marla maples. Is that where we are going . I wouldnt say the question is obligated to bring that up about trump. Hillary clinton is obligated to raise that as a counter issue if she decides to go that way. Heidi is right. What the media does is follows what candidates say. There is a certain logic to it. It is trumps responsibility if trump wants certain issues to come up it is up to him to bring them up. Ahead Nbcs Lester Holt taking heat for asking much tougher questions of trump and checking only the gop nominee. Howard dean goes off the deep end and gary johnson draws a big fat blank. To get a mortgage. I just go to lendingtree. I calculate how much home i can afford. I get multiple offers to compare side by side, and the best part is the banks come crawling to me. Lendingtree. When banks compete, you win. Did you or anyone in your household work around asbestoscontaining gaskets, packing, or equipment . If you or a loved one have an asbestosrelated disease, you may have a right to vote on a plan to reorganize and pay claims in the garlock coltec bankruptcy. Garlocks and coltecs products were used in industrial and maritime settings, including where steam, hot liquid or acid moved in pipes. Votes must be filed by december 9, 2016 call 844garlock or go to garlocknotice. Com howard dean is a doctor, former governor, former democratic chairman. What he is doing to donald trump makes me want to scream. He tweeted this during the debate. Notice trump sniffing all the time . Coke user . Why did you go there . You cant make a diagnosis over the television. I would never do that but he had some interesting that is actually a signature of people who use cocaine. Im not suggesting that trump does. You are suggesting it actually in a tweet. Im suggesting we think about it. It is a ludicrous smear to suggest the 70yearold man who doesnt even drink alcohol might be doing blow. He finally said he was sorry on friday days later. No comment from msnbc about this kind of garbage. Gary johnson had his aleppo moment when the libertarian president ial candidate went on morning joe and had never heard of the city. Now he had another cringe worthy moment from chris matthews. Who is your favorite foreign leader . Name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to . Anybody. Im talking about living. You have to do this. Anywhere. Canada, mexico, europe, asia, south america, africa, name a foreign leader that you respect. I guess im having an aleppo moment. The whole world. I know. Here is a serious question. While the former governor remanes a factor in the polls is it time to journalists to treat him as someone who doesnt know much about Foreign Policy. Up next Hillary Clintons top spokesman on the coverage of the debate and the campaign. Now that fedex has helped us simplify our ecommerce, we could focus on bigger issues, like our passive aggressive environment. Were not passive aggressive. Hey, hey, hey, there are no bad suggestions here. No matter how lame they are. Well said, ann. Ive always admired how you just say whats in your head, without thinking. Very brave. Good point ted. Youre living proof that looks arent everything. Thank you. Welcome. 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