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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren July 24, 2014 23:00:00

Orange is no longer the new black. Orange is no longer the new black. Orange is no longer the new black in his jail. [ laughter ] creativity, thats it for this special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. Here is greta. President obama where are you . Crisis after crisis exploding around the world and right here in the u. S. From israel it ukraine to our own southern border and now Many Americans standized by president obamas focus on fundraising and hollywood hobnobbing making it look like that is his top priority. I i feel like the president only comes to l. A. For money. I dont get that he likes the job. You know, i think he almost hates the job. I believe that the president is more so concerned about going to these fundraising events where he is applauded, it is all about him. One of tonights fundraisers was held at scandal producer sean da rices house. Please, getting my hopes up. Its a matter of him wanting to be around people that worship him. Hello, l. A. Its where richest leftist meet to discuss the toxic origins of the country that created their opportunity for wealth. And in just minutes, karl rove goes on the record but right now only right here, on the record, House Budget Committee chair paul ryan unveils his new plan. Mr. Chairman, nice to see you. Good to be back with you you. You have a plan to start a debate about poverty. What is it . First of all, i think hard working taxpayers deserve a a government that responds to them that works for them. And they are not getting it. What were taking a look at is, we spent 800 billion a year on 92 different programs for the federal government to fight poverty yet we have the highest poverty rate in a generation. People are slipping through the cracks. So what we want to do is change this conversation can. Lets talk about reform that actually works. And instead of measuring success by how many new programs are created in washington or how much money we spent on programs, why dont we measure it by results, by outcomes . How many people are we actually getting out of poverty . And what we have learned is from researching all of this throughout the last couple of years is that the federal government gets in the way in so many places. We want to empower local communities. The people who are the boots on the ground who are actually fighting poverty streamline government and focus on customizing aid to getting people actually out of poverty and focus on results. We reformed welfare in 1996 and it was very successful. Work requirements, time limits, local control. Experimentation in our states. That was one program. There are 92 other programs that have not been reformed like that. What were trying to do is take those lessons we learned successfully from welfare renorm in 196 and apply it to the other parts of the governments war on poverty because were in the 50th anniversary in the war on poverty and we are not winning it what we are saying is take 11 different bureaucracies and government perhaps and consolidate it that saves you a lot and send it back to our communities. The accountability is we measure. We measure and publish results and you have transparency. You see where the dollars are going and where the results are. Thats what i wonder, who is doing that . We propose an independent 30 party does that. Bureaucracy. It could be a private sector firm. Its whatever the state decides to do. So you dont have the government measuring itself. You dont have the provider, be it a Catholic Charity or Lutheran Services or state agency or for profit group like America Works which has been very successful. Dont have them measure themselves, an independent third party does the measuring so that we as taxpayers see how our dollars are being spent and result of these programs. We go where the results take us. I would be all in favor of the federal government doing all of this if it reflected success. Totally. I mean, im just looking for success. Thats not working. And seems it to me, im now sort of fixated on we cant manage these things on such big levels. Look at our home state. You live in appleton. You are from appleton. I live in janesville we have milwaukee and madison in between. Those communities have different problems. Let alone the rest of the country. And we should have washington dictate how these local communities solve these problems . Well, they dont each community is unique for whatever reason. And so i guess i go back to the whole idea is that the other side of the aisle does object to these block grants and they are going to say to you that your proposal is just a new code word for block grants. Im used to getting partisan labels or getting partisan slings and arrows thrown in my direction that doesnt bother me that comes with the territory of breaking up status quo with offering new ideas. Thats fine. Get lets get to a conversation of whats your idea. Everybody has a different situation in poverty. Its not just some monolithic problem where everybody is the same. People have different needs and different problems. So our solutions ought to customize that we ought to have aid that is customized to a unique persons problem so they dont have to go to all these various different welfare agencies and get these programs that actually disincentivize them to go to work. Pay to stay on welfare not go to work. Fix that customize it and always focus on getting people from where they are to where they want to go and that is to get a good career. Not just a job but a career. I would argue our poverty fighting programs dont do that. In many ways they trap people in poverty. Have you gone over this with Speaker Boehner . I have not. Whats the appetite, do you think . Actually, this morning we talked about it very briefly. He knew i was putting this out and he wished me luck. Whats the appetite for having this done . Beginning of a discussion. Its also referred to as a pilot program. But, whats the likelihood . I think we will pass it by tuesday. Yeah, right. No, the whole purpose of this and i have learned this from legislating and reforming government for a long time, you have got to start with ideas. You have got to begin the discussion so that you can get to consensus to actually effect change. And so thats what we are doing here is we are starting the conversation. We are adding some innovative ideas to the debate on how best to fight poverty more effectively so that we can have this conversation and get consensus and actually effect change. That takes time. It takes time to do these things. Thats why we want to get started now. Your party has been branded as being antipoor. I think thats people who basically want to stick with the status quo and have a partisan game who say things like that. Tough politics in this country. Sure it is. If we accept the status quo as unreformable, give up then. I mean, if you want to serve people in congress, and you think that you cant solve a problem thats a problem in our communities, you shouldnt be in congress. So the way i look at this is, i look at the condition of the poor and i see opportunity. I see potential. I see people who could be fantastic contributors who need assistance from getting to where they are to where they want to be and we, in the federal government, are not doing our job to making sure that that occurs, what i think the federal government in many places does is it displaces local solutions. It crowds out what we call civil society, local groups making a difference. We want to empower that we want the public and private sector working together to help pull people out of poverty and i would argue that washington frustrates that. It should facilitate that. This is where every journalist asks you the question whether or not you are going to run for president. I ask the question i always ask. Packers how are they going to do this year. Do well. Great pick. You projected that pick. I think we are going to have a very good team. We filled the holes we h as long as we are healthy, i think we are going all the way. Nice to sigh sir. Thank you. And, of course, you can see much more of our interview with congressman paul ryan and discussion on what to do about poverty in this country on gretawire. Com. Its all there. And its day number three of president obamas west croes trip. Last night it was hollywood. The president rubbing shoulders with the stars of scandal. Is it the time to hobnob with the fictional drama when the world is in it a real political crises. Karl rove joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening. How are you, greta . Very well. Well, he is taking a lot of heat. Even aryana huffington and senator dianne feinstein, a lot of people stepping up who might be sympathetic to the president ordinarily. People are objecting to this. He can he do work on air force one . Well, look. The air force one allows you to communicate with people. But there is nothing like actually sitting down in a room and eyeballing people and working the problem and moving forward to. Say oh it doesnt matter where i am. I have my key personnel with me and as long as im flying around on the airplane everything is hunkydory. Look today they had a a lunch at the white house. Communications director arranged to have former press secretaries come together. This is their mind set. This is only a comawngses problem. If they could only get the frame right, the picture right, everything would be hunky doory. Huhuh. This is a problem of they have the wrong policies in place and they are missing opportunities left and right to effect outcomes those two things, wrong policies why do we have a problem on the border . He sent a message to kids on Central America send your kids here and they can stay. Why do we have a problem putin is bake. Why do we have a problem in the economy because the president is not focused on the problem. And to think that this is somehow just a communications difficulty is to basically mislead themselves and miss the opportunities they have to it really effect the president s standing with the American People. Is the audience only the American People as we sort of watch this or do you think that president putin has his eyes on sort of the fact that the president is out fundraising. Sure. Any moment to him or what . Yeah. Look, he is looking at them saying the president really is, first of all, is he weak, is he feckless. Remember the ukrainians said we need small arms to reassert the control of the government in kiev over these provinces in the east that russia is trying to destabilize. The president of the United States says no we cant send you those small arms. We will send you meals ready to eat but you have got to pick them up in poland because we dont want to be seen entering your airspace. Putin looked at that and laughed and said this is weak. Now he looks at the president and says that man likes hanging out with all those people in hollywood more than he does facing the problems at home and abroad. He sees that as further evidence that he ought to keep going down the path that he is going which is to destabilize ukraine at the expense of the United States and the west. Let me give you the flip side. Suppose you were all hold up at the white house and we hardly saw him and he had advisors coming in and out and didnt see him and the whole schedule looked like he was disruptive. Why is he worried . Is he a hermit . No, no, no, no. There is no flip side. No. You dont need to go all a the way to ground. I said missed opportunity. On the border, what if he had gone to the border when he was in texas and come out of that and said, you know, i have seen it firsthand, i want to send a strong message to parents in the Central America, do not send your children here. If they are lucky enough to make it here, we are going to apprehend it immediately and return them to you expeditiously it would have had a huge impact in Central America and move forward the president to do what he says he wants to do which is to take further steps to secure the border and resolve the crisis. In the ukraine, what if the president had gone out and made a speech, not throw away set of remarks not in the medal of some other event is he doing. Made a speech which he declared with moral clarity that it is unacceptable behavior to support the rebels in downing a commercial airliner. As a result, serious consequences leveled on russia. Instead he goes out and says if they do something worse than downing a commercial airliner, there are going to be bad things that are going to happen. What worse do you need to do than kill 298 innocent civilians with a russianprovided Missile System that may have been launched from russian personnel and Russian Airspace. If not launched from Russian Airspace with the agreement and support of and the conveyance of the russian government. The president has an opportunity by staying in washington or actually being some place doing something other than fundraising in order to take advantage of these opportunities to advance proper policies and to change the situation. Karl, thank you. Nice to see you. You bet, greta. Thank you. And, six fundraisers in three days. It gets worse. What is president obamas big secret . Why did he lock out the media from last nights fundraiser . Im going to talk to you offtherecord. Thats coming up. This is a fox news alert. The Obama Administration now confirming russia is firing artillery from russia at military targets inside ukraine. The pentagon saying this is clearly a military escalation. And this Youtube Video showing what appears to be the russian fire into ukraine. Fox cannot independently confirm the authenticity of this video. And, Time Magazine cover story today, correspondent Simon Shuster reporting on the downing of flight 17 and the ukraine crisis writing each new crisis makes russian president putin stronger and calling president obama a leader without leverage and Simon Shuster joins us live from kiev. Simon, nice to talk to you again, tell me this news about russia firing into ukraine. What is is that being reported in ukraine . Whats the reaction on the ground . Definitely being reported and it has been reported reportn ukraine for some weeks now. The Ukrainian Government claims has long claimed this is going on, that rockets from russia are being fired that ukrainian planes are being shot down. Only today have we seen the u. S. Government citing its intelligence to confirm. This so this is an escalation but its sort of its been going on for a while. All right. Your Time Magazine cover bright red, it says cold war 2. You have the cover story. Why do you write cold war 2 . I i have we have entered a period where relations between the russia and the west are going to continually be strained. It will be did be difficult to continue business as usual and sit across negotiating tables from putin on issues as broad as iran or Economic Development or Nuclear Disarmament and soen o its going to be a policy of containment that people have been talking about in the west for a long time but now they are really moving forward to try to enact it. I dont want to minimize this and using a sports term inwithing and losing. Let me ask you anyway. Who looks stronger. Who looks winning. Who looks weak as we have this sort of cold war eve with russia . I think the greatest divisions are within europe. The u. S. Has come out quite strongly. Europe has not caught up with sanctions with russia that the United States has imposed even after the crash of the malaysian airliner. And they are going to consider it again this coming week but they are just too many allies, too many russian europe, you know, italy, france, austria, greece, that are saying, you know, hold on, we dont have enough evidence yet lets hold off until the investigation is over. Thats creating the kind of divisions that really play into putins hand. Does that suggest that putin is getting stronger visavis the United States or visavis president obama . I think he is getting stronger domestically with every successive crisis. We seen time after time every time we have a crisis from crimea to Eastern Ukraine that putin is the man that all the western leaders are looking to for some kind of help for him to back off for him to coop in some way. Ratchet up or keep asking him demanding he enjoys being in the worlds attention that wait a minute he keeps getting that role in geo politics. Simon, thank you. Thank you. Palestinians say israeli tank shells hit the compound but israel says it could have been hamas rockets. Fox news correspondent conor powell live in gaza city. Conor, any developments at least in the last few minutes . Well, greta, we are just getting word now that secretary of state john kerry has proposed a ceasefire it would take a week or so beginning tomorrow if both sides if hamas and israel agree to the ceasefire, it would provide a sort of breathing space for negotiations to begin it would allow gaza to keep conduct operations to destroy the tunnels inside gaza. It seems unlikely that hamas would accept this ceasefire it may just happen. Especially after the attack this afternoon a shelter where thousands of palestinians had fled. The fighting gone there for safety. This was attacked during fighting. There are mixed reports about what may have been happened. Hamas and Israeli Soldiers engaging. It seemed that the fighting was creeping closer to the u. N. Shelter. The u. N. Tried to evacuate and get all the civilians out of there. Before they were able, to it was hit by israeli artillery. Israeli officials have said hamas was hiding in the area. They blamed it on hamas sort of ability and their continual fighting among civilians but from what we understand, there were no civilians in this u. N. Shelter. But that israeli artillery may be mistakenly hit this place. 15 people were killed. More than 70 were wounded. Most of them women and children, greta. Conor, thank you. Seriously, russian president Vladimir Putin thinks he can solve the hamas israeli conflict . Ambassador john bolton has a message for president putin and for president obama. You have to hear this. Plus, someone just hit the panic button at the white house. You wont

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