He is always working it. Isthanks for inviting us into your home. That is it for special report, fair bs balanced and unafraid. Greta goes on the record right now. This is a fox news alert. Fox news confirming an american was killed in syria while fighting for isis. Yes, for isis. Thats the same group that executed james foley. Catherine herridge joins us. Catherine . Thank you, greta. Within the last hour, senior Law Enforcement official confirmed to fox news the american citizen killed in syria was known to the u. S. Government and his affiliation also with isis. Fox news has told that the family of Douglass Mcarthur mccain of san diego, california, has also been notified. Evidence of his death, including a photo of his american passport, was first reported by the Free Syrian Army which is fighting against isis for control of eastern syria. On twitter in june, he told
his isis contact that he would soon be meeting them in that country and as his radicalization deepened he changed his name it and adopted this moniker slave of allah interests returning from the region to the United States within 72 hours of their flight. That system does not flag everyone, greta. If you fly of course first to london and sit there two weeks you are not in the system at you will, right . Can you still be in the system depending on what elf of interest you are to the u. S. Government. Was this man of sufficient interest that he would have gotten caught . He was of Significant Interest to the u. S. Government and they had been tracking him, its now clear to me, for several months the interesting continuing thing to me tonight is when the National Security council put out a statement about his death, they said it was evidence that americans should not travel to syria. What they neglected to
mention is that he was fighting for isis. And this is not a mistake. This is anf commission. Its a little observe to put on a travel advisory to americans not to travel to syria. Thats almost absurd to tell americans not to travel to syria. Well, to mention his death and not the fact that he was affiliated with the group that. Why didnt they . Why wouldnt they . I dont know. But i think that you do see a pattern often where the affiliation with known terrorist groups is dropped. And it takes me back to the original reporting we did on major nidal hasan and the fort hood massacre where that was classified as work place violence and a great effort to distance him from his al qaeda affiliation with a cleric in yemen. Catherine, thank you. Youre welcome. Colonel oliver north joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening, how are you. Catherine reporting this disheartening news, douglass mccain an American Fighting for isis gives as you travel warning and doesnt want to
say that he is working with isis or was working with isis. Douglass mcarthur mccain was his adopted name. When you are looking at now two in a week, the brit from who murdered james fell toy, and now an american, youve got to recognize, i think, that the state department and our department of Homeland Security and our immigration folks and the fbi would be concerned. There appear to be a lot of westerners, as catherine just reported, we really dont know how many there are. And the estimates vary widely from 300 plus to 3,000 plus. This whole travel alert business, remember the gay who had the underwear bomber, he must have been there are so many ways to get passed these no fly list. There is a lot more ever of them now than when richard reid was doingand the underwear bomber as well. The system has improved. But, as everybody acknowledges, it is not full proof. There are ways to evade it
one would think that given their sophistication, the folks running isis recruiting know how to do it. In other words, if you fly to turkey, or if you fly to greece and then motor to turkey, and then go from turkey into syria to become part of isis or isil or whatever they are calling themselves this week you may not be in the system when you come back out. We have to be very concerned about whats happening with these radicalized jihadists coming back to the United States just like the europeans. Flying to montreal and walking across the border. Whatever. Let me go to this other question. You spoke at the American Legion and so did president obama down in north carolina. How was the American Legion. I think it the proper word would be politely. They are veterans. 2. 4 million represent ared by the 9 the 6th 96th meeting of the American Legion. They were plight to him. He did say some things they wanted to hear about veterans care. The rest of it was almost
like it was prepared by several different people. And he just read from the tell prompter. My line was that i learned to speak because i work for a president who spoke from the heart. He speaks from a tell prompter. It was very it was disjointed. It was irrational in some parts. Quite frankly, we ought tokpzj concerned about that aspect of it because its not just detachment. Its almost delusional. And when he speaks the way he does about our coalition, what coalition . He said in times of crisis, no other nation can can rally such Broad Coalition to it stand up for International Norms and peace. I remember a year ago when he wanted to bomb syria, u. K. Said our best friends wouldnt go with us. Today, for example, it was announced by the pentagon that we are conducting Intelligence Surveillance and reconnaissance flights over syria. Yesterday, we were being told by the same pentagon that the reason why we are dropping bombs in iraq and not in syria is because we were in iraq at the
invitation of the iraqi government. And to this point, one of the reasons why mr. Obama withdrew everybody in december of 2011 was because we did not have a status of forces agreement. Do we have one now . And no one asks him these things at these briefings. Im going to ask a question about the vets. He said as soon as it was disclosed the vet problem. I got before the American People and i said we would not tolerate it thats what he ran on in 2008. Did the vets politely accept that one . Yeah. They were plight. He is the commander and chief. They were polite. Quite frankly, i was concerned at the end of the whole presentation because it appears to be so detached from the reality of whats going on in the world today. Colonel north, nice to see you, sir. Good to be back. Thank you. Surveillance flights over syria. Is that the first steps towards air strikes against isis in syria. Rear admiral john kirby joins us. Good evening, sir. Hi. Thanks for having me, greta. Nice to have you. Before i get to the question about isis and the surveillance, im curious as to what the pentagon knows about douglass mccain and how many other americans might be fighting with or for identifies. Isis. We dont know much about this gentleman and cant really confirm that he is, in fact, an American Foreign fighter. I will tell you this it does bring home to us and a stark reminder of the real threat of foreign fighters inside of an organization like isil. When we speak of the threat isil poses this is one of the factors, fighters going over there and getting radicalized and potentially working their way back to their home lands. Not the only government concerned about this but on our minds. Is there an imimmediate derek posed to the United States . If so, how do you define immediate danger to the United States . A great question. Two components here. One the very real threat of foreign fighters coming back and launching attacks inside
their home lands, wherever they may be. They also pose an immediate threat to middle interests in the middle east. Thats not a significant threat. There is a wide swath of area in iraq that they havepvw influence over. They also have free reign into the border in syria. They have regional aspirations if not global aspirations and they are very capable. They are well red and well resourced we take the threat seriously. Is there any way without strategic strikes in syria and second the question have there been any conversation with president assads government about strikes . First of all, there has been no decision to conduct strikes inside syria against isil targets. The commander and chief hasnt made that decision. I think general dempsey said it very well last week when he said there is no way to address the threat of isil without addressing it from a regional perspective. That doesnt just mean military. In fact, we believe the only way in the long term that
isil is defeated is when their ideology is rejected. That both in iraq and syria. In iraq we have a unity government thats beginning to form, thats promising. In syria we have an assad regime that has done nothing except pursue deprivations on their own people. We have no intention of coordinating with assad regime with which we dont recognize. The seriousness about the fact that isis and assad are fighting and were trying to help iraq eliminate isis so that sort of puts us almost as pals with the assad to the extent that we have b3to6be samerfp÷ goal. I think thats656t a little oversimplification. To do it kdau partnership with iraqi and Kurdish Forces and not that we wouldnt take unilatdxz action if needed to protectn our facilities, but were going to take that action because its in our inter and its against isil. Support of anybody other than our iraqi and kurdish partners. All right. What county amq ican people do to make this allv2r . n easier for the military . Is there anything we can do . Because obviously these are very toughcb . calls and very tough decisions. Little easier . American people have been great supporters ofat military. Were very grateful for thatb2an support. Its been very clear. That while americansl1fa÷ have all kinds of opinion3 . M n about where the military is conducting and they donta jp always agree on the ordeq always agree on the ordeq la steady, they have supported ]watk continue to support thexq those of us that ared8 in uniform and when we take this uniform off and we go out intoqug ÷ society, they are there to help us. Homes, we for the support that we getcijy from the American People and vj gratitudeAmerican People towards our holding another american hostage in syria. 26yearold female aid worker. Kidnapped last year while working for humanitarian groups. Reports that isis has made 6. 6milliondollar ransom demand. Asking the media not to name her for concerns due to her safety. And, of course, we all agree, isis is evil. They behead innocent. It doesnt get more evil than that. And no civilized or moral person could think otherwise. Right . Well, hang on to your seat, this is going to horrify you. In western europe an alarming amount of support for isis. Especially in france. According to a Research Poll done for a russian news agency, 16 of people surveyed in france said they support isis. Foreign Relations Committee member senator John Barrasso joins us. Good evening, sir. Thanks for having me. Where do you support 16 of the population support
isis. Very disturbing and distressing. I have seen the poll results. Some of these people tend to be younger and those who are immigrants from muslim countries who are living in france. Its a huge concern and it shows me that the threat to the United States is even greater, especially when see it was a british citizen who beheaded james fell toy, that savage act and that was called a message to america when they sent the video. Uk, looking at the numbers, germany is 2 . Uk 7 . Gaza 13 . It shows that this group, isis, which we know is blood thirsty they are well armed and dangerous people with deadly weapons. They are coming from america. They have folks from other countries supporting them. Nato allies, people you wouldnt think would be friendly, shows the threat to the United States is even greater. Not to be flip, the idea, i mean, al qaeda threw isis out this spring because they were too violent. Do you know how bad you have to be to have al qaeda to
think you are too bad and too awful . They control a huge area. Almost. Lots of money. Lots of oil. They have weapons as well. They have a manpower. All of those things that control an area larger than the state of indiana and want to continue to grow. I think its incumbent now on the president of the United States as commander and chief to show leadership, to come forward and express to the American People, articulate the threat that we as americans face and what he is going to do in a comprehensive way to deal with this direct threat that we face. Okay. So what you foreign Relations Committee. I know that senator mccain said this should be debated on capitol hill. He is a democrat. So, has the Senate ForeignRelations Committee had any sort of contact with the president or even began discussing this at all . I mean, is he just speaking with his military leadership . The president is speaking with his military leadership. Halls not come to congress at awesome i dont think he ought to let congress off the hook. Congress ought to be able to and have to stand up because with voters at home. But the president needs to make the case. What is he going to do . What is his solution to face the threat, the strategy has to equal the threat. But to get there, it does involve some sort of dialogue. Maybe doesnt have to be public. I would hope that the president would consult with other leaders in his own party and across the aisle as well. Because there is a very i mean, this is a very important time. Isis is not your usual enemy. Isis is not like a nation where we know where they are. This is a very mobile, very rich, and very evil and eye lent ]snv violent group. Secretary kerry said they have to be eliminated. Secretary of defense hagel enemy like no other. Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, iraq alone isnt enough if you want to eliminate isis and its time now for the president to lay out a plan. What would you do. Couple things, additional aid and information and arms to the kurds. What the president has done with these flights, and there have been about 100
bombings over the last two weeks has helped buy time. So the iraqis can form a government. But i have been calling to arm the rebels in syria for years now. Free syrian army. The president ought to be doing all of those things, so there is a role[eb n for diplomacy and allowing iraq to stand up as a new government. We need to put together a coalition of other countries and the president needs to lay out the threat to the United States and his plan to deal with it because i think as secretary of state and secretary of defense are right. This is a threat like no other it is a threat to the homeland. We can either fight them there or fight them here and i would rather have them fought over there. Senator, nice to see you, sir. Thanks for having me. Lets all go offtherecord for a minute. Today lt. Colonel oliver north and a president obama honored our vets. They both spoke at the American Legion national convention. So now its going to be our turn. Im going to let new on a little secret. On monday, at 7 00 p. M. , right here on the record, we are going to honor our
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