Thats it for this special report, fair, balanced. Greta goes on the record right now. This is a fox news alert. For the First Time Since that shocking inside the elevator video went public, Roger Goodell speaking about ray rice. We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video, but we were never granted that opportunity. So did anyone in the nfl see the second videotape before monday . No. Reporter no one in the nfl . No one in the nfl, to my knowledge, and i have been asked that same question, and the answer to that is no. Reporter how is it that the nfl couldnt get their hands on the second tape, but a website called tmz could . I dont know how tmz or any other website gets their information. We are particularly relying on Law Enforcement. Thats the most reliable, the most credible, and we dont seek to get that information from sources that are not credible. And thats not all. Tonight we are also hearing from both ray rice and his wife, janay. In an at the same time to espn, ray rice saying, i have to be strong for my wife. She is so strong. We in good spirits. We have a lot of people praying for us, and well continue to support each other. I have to be there for janay right now and my family right now and work through this. And janay writes in part, no one knows the pain that the might yeah and unwanted opinions from the public has caused my family to make us relive a memory in our lives that we aget is a horrible thing. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you have succeeded on so many levels. Just know that we will continue to grow and show the world what real love is. And harvey loven joins us. How many copies of that tape are there . And does the nfl see it . Well, look, yeah, we know that the police came over to the casino, and they got a copy, and they gave it to the prosecutor, and i, what goodell is saying about the prosecutor, i know is correct, because ive connected to people in that office, and they say there is no way they would give up that video because it was part of the grand jury investigation. Stop there. He pled to a misdemeanor, right . Im a lawyer, youre a lawyer . He was indicted for a felony. The grand jury indicted him for
a felony. So theres a grand jury convened that has the video as evidence. Thats the Police Department. Heres the problem that ive had from the beginning of this. The casino had a copy of this videotape, has the original, actually, and, im told ray rices attorney has a copy because he was involved in a criminal case. As for the casino, when goodell is saying we wanted to get from a credible source, why on earth does he not think that the casino video, why does he suggest that the casino isnt as credible as the police . The police got it from the casino, so why didnt goodell go to the casino, or his people, and say, hey, wed like to see the video. We are told by people who work at the casino that they never did that. We are also told by people at the casino that had they done that, they would have shown it to them. So i dont understand what hes
saying. I dont understand, why do you even need the second video . The first video has him dragging an unconscious woman out of the elevator. Secondly, i assume theres a moral clause in a Football Players contract. Im not so sure that he couldnt have gotten it from the lawyer, couldnt have persuaded ray rice to get it from his lawyer and turn it over. I dont know why he needs the second video. As to that, i think that goodell had a lot of leverage over rice at the time, because he could have said, look, based on what you just said, that first video was so damning. Were going to suspend him indefinitely unless we see the video. So he had leverage from the lawyer. Just dragging her out of the elevator should have been enough and thats all she wrote, i mean, rice and janay went to goodells office together, said
it was mutual combat. Its what they told the police. Now the police dropped the charge against her as soon as they saw the video. So that should have been a clue to goodell that all of a sudden the charge against her is dropped, and now hes facing a felony. It should give him some clue, hey, ive got to see that video. But they didnt do it. Hes an aggressive guy, greta. I know that goodell has micro managed some of thinks disciplinary cases. He is there. He is on it. He does this all the time. Why not take the basic steps here and go the origin place. Hes doing somersaults to explain why he didnt go to the casino. Is there any tape out there i read someplace that theres no tape out there so i figure youll have it soon that theres one with some audio on it. Do you have any information about that at all . I have heard that there was maybe some audiotape perhaps captured on a cell phone which in some way, where you hear part of the argument. I have not seen that yet. Ive heard it exists if it exists, i know where well see it in the next 24 hours, good chance it will be on tmz. Com. Ray rice got a diversion which is usually reserved for misdemeanors, how do you go from a felony to a diversion . I can explain it and point out a problem. What happened was, rice was charged they dont call it a misdemeanor. They dropped the charge and said were going to send this to the grand jury instead. We told the grand jury saw the video, and then they indicted him for a felony, basically felony domestic violence. At that point, he is eligible for what amounts to a diversion. And youre eligible based on whether youre a firsttime offender and several other factors from a felony . From a felony . Hes eligible. His lawyer did what any good lawyer would do and applied for the diversion. We are told the prosecutors did not object to the diversion based op ex tenuating circumstances, namely the video. I am told by people who have worked in that office that they find that very curious, why wouldnt the prosecutor, given the severity of this, say, look, even though most people would qualify for a diversion, this case is different because its more violent. They didnt do that. And to me, thats the issue. Harvey, thank you, and ill keep checking because im sure that audios going to end up on your website soon. Thank you, harvey. Okay, greta. And the nfl says it is not
their fault. A spokesperson for the new jersey attorney general says it would have been illegal to give the video to an outside entity. Why is the nfl silent on the issue . Joining us are our guests. Ted . When it comes to the grand jury, the grand jury could not give that information out, because its called but the casino could have. But thats the key to the whole thing. And you dont even need the second video. The first video is damning enough. You ever hear the word, i see no evil, i hear no evil. I hear nothing i see nothing. Thats where the nfl and Baltimore Ravens want to be right now. And the prosecutor. And the prosecutor. Katie, as a former prosecutor, is this the type of case you would give diversion for, meaning that the person
doesnt have a conviction, sort of goes off to the side, and if the person behaves and does Something Else for a while, the case goes away, and you dont do any jail time. Is this the type of case you would have given diversion for . No. The bottom line answer is no. Even with victim approval i would not have given pretrial intervention, in light of the severity of the activities. He basically cold cocked her. Remember in this event, the nfl could have gone to the hotel to get this footage, the hotel only released the footage to Law Enforcement and ray rices attorney obtained it. Knowing you have leverage over ray rice, could you have said, weve seen video number one, we know theres video number two. You have a moral clause in your contract, you might want to produce video number two. Im not sure. Not being privy to the contract, im not sure. Theres probably a moral clause. But whether ray rices attorney would be willing to turn over something ray rice , not his attorney. But if my client came to me and said, look, im going to lose my job for sure if i dont turn it over, then the client can have the tape and turn it over. There is a big smoke screen here. Everybody is talking about video number two, where he knocks the woman out, look. You had video number one where he dragged the woman out of the elevator. What else do you need come on. Lets be realistic here. I agree. What else do you need but video number one . Thats all you needed. So for prosecutors, for the Baltimore Ravens, for the nfl to say we couldnt get this, we couldnt get that, listen clearly what goodell is saying, well, we couldnt get it from the police, but you could have
gotten it from the casino. He didnt do that. Hes parsing his words. Its an embarrassment to the nfl. I disagree. I disagree. I dont think its that easy to go get it from the hotel, remember the Solange Knowles tape. Do you need that second video, katie . To make your judgment on this, had you been goodell, do you really need to see more than an unconscious woman being dragged out of an elevator. Maybe you need more, but do you think you need more . Did you need that other video . Did goodell need more . I guess he did. Im not sure exactly why shes unconscious. A rational person could conclude that something happened by him because nobody else is coming out of the elevator, but at the end of the day, this video was not as readily accessible to the nfl. I have to disagree. Now, granted, the Police Department could have gotten the video, but the casino, if the nfl would have asked, could have turned that video over to the nfl, if the nfl asked. And we dont know if they asked. That may be the problem. Could i just say the irony of katie the prosecutor and ted the defense attorney, completely, and even im out there, katie, ted, thank you as well. This is a fox news alert. Right now a judge in mexico is hearing andrew tahmooressis case. He has been held in a mexican prison since march 31. And today everyday focusing on video from the check point where tahmooressi was arrested. For the very latest, we are live in tijuana, william . Reporter well, greta, moments ago, the Defense Attorneys and prosecutors returned to court after watching
relevant portions of that surveillance videotape when tahmooressi entered mexico with the three weapons in his truck. Tahmooressi was not in court today because this was an evidentiary hearing, no testimony, and he was not asked to attend. Jill tahmooressi, his mother, did arrive. She was escorted by personnel from the u. S. Consulate. She is in the courthouse right now. We dont know if she is in the courtroom. As it stands now, the judge has two versions of what happened, the innocent tahmooressi making a wrong turn. The government says he lied about being here and they discovered those weapons in his truck. At this point, that video should also show how many hours he was detained by mexican customs here and that that was a violation of his rights. Probably nothing conclusive on those tapes, no audio and the shots were very wide. And just moments before Sergeant Tahmooressis defense
lawyer went into court, he went on the record. Nice to talk to you, sir. Caller how are you . Very well. I understand youre about to go back to court. Were you in for a daytime courtroom . Have you had some court already today . Caller yes, we have. We went in, we actually have two separate events this morning at 10 40 in the morning. Our forensic psychiatrist was sworn in and at 11 05 we started with the hearing and the disks that were delivered by mexican customs left us with 49 files, some of it, some of the files as much as eight hours in length. Okay. Your client, i understand, was not in the courtroom. His mother is there. Caller thats right. She expected him to be there. Why wasnt he in the courtroom . Caller well, since he was not intervened in the viewing of the footage and the monitors and Everything Else is not in the area where we could hold him and it could go on for several hours, it was decided that it did not make any sense for him to endure you must understand that we have 36 degree heat down here right now, a lot of humidity and the place where i would be held has no air conditioning. In order for that to happen here in the United States, the defendant would have to come before the judge. The judge would say, do you now you have a right to be here, and youre waiving your right to be here. Is there any indication that he was part of the decision to not be there today so he could see what was going on, so he could see the tapes against him . Caller well, of course, we can ask for him to be present, but i decided it would be easier if we went through this faster rather than slower, and the constraints of having him
present, i believe, they werent warranted in this particular case, especially, for example, if he were to be held right now for hours without not being in the hearing, just in the holding cell, i thought it would be inconvenient, so it was my call. What about his mother, though . His mother came all the way from florida to see the hearing. Caller well, she will participate in the court hearing. Its a public hearing. But shes not going to see her son. Caller thats the only unfortunate disadvantage thats going to take place today, but she will get a chance to view the video alongside us. Has the psychiatrist actually testified or has he just been sworn in as a witness . Caller no, hes been sworn in, and he can start discharging his duties as early as tomorrow. Has he actually interviewed Sergeant Tahmooressi . Spent time with him . Caller in fact, greta, now that you mention it, this
psychiatrist is sometimes called on by the state Correctional Authority down here in the state and has in fact seen andrew in the past. He was the attending psychiatrist that oversaw his, the crisis that he had initially, in april. So hes talked to andrew several times. Hes been monitoring his progress for the state department of correction. So now when is the last time he saw him . Caller i really would have to ask him, but hes been seeing him every, i believe its on a weekly basis. Im not sure. I would have to check. In terms of the tapes, have you now had a chance i realize youre taking those 49 files and reducing them to something more manageable, more relevant to the issue. Caller thats right. Have you seen any of the 49 files yourself . Caller ive seen a couple
this morning. And i have printouts of stills showing the time stamp on one of the corners of the image, and that gives me an indication more or less of where i want to aim our efforts. I understand that youre looking at sort of what we would call a constitutional issue, whether or not his rights were violated, whether he was held without seeing someone. Im curious, aside from the legal issue, is there anything youve seen on these files that would suggest that he was not cooperative . Caller no. He looks cooperative . In all the video . Caller he looks extremely composed and calm. There are several instances, lengthy in time, where, if he really wanted to, he could have just walked away. There was nobody physically restraining him. He could have very well just ran away. This is an assumption on my
part, okay, but its clear to me that he was calm, and that he indicated to the personnel where his belongings were inside the vehicle. There were actually three searches. On initial search, a deeper search about 20 minutes afterwords, and a couple hours later an exhaustive search, and only at the end of the footage can you see them serving him with the search order. So that was one of my main concerns, and it seems our young andrew have been telling the truth all along. And customs officers had strayed away from that truthful version of the facts. One last question. Always during breaks, you know, i always go out in the hall and talk to the prosecutor, prosecutor would talk to me. I would get some idea of what the prosecutor thought about the case. Have you had any chance to have a casualty conversation with the prosecutor . Does he think its a serious
case, a ridiculous case, dragging on too long . Anything from the prosecutor . Caller well, i would not like to assume what his state of mind is, but of course we had a chance to talk at length this morning, and we negotiated this stipulation. He was cooperative with us. If i had to make, if i had to venture out and speculate what his opinion of the case is, because he hasnt, you know, verbalized it in such a way that it would be clear, but if i had to speculate, based on his posture, based on his language, based on his attitude, i would say that he probably is starting to realize from the evidence before him that weve been telling the truth all along. And what is clear is that all of us are looking at customs as the entity responsible for the most serious part of this whole
predicament. Thank you very much. I know youve got to go back into court. Good luck for the rest of the day. Thanks, sir. Caller thank you so much. Goodbye. And up next, donald trump. He is outraged that president obama has not demanded a speedy trial for tahmooressi. Perfect timing. Were offering our bestever pricing on mobile plans for business. Run the numbers on that. Well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be. Oneseventyfive a month. Good calculating kyle. Good job kyle. You just made partner. Our bestever pricing on mobile share value plans for business. Now with a 100 bill credit for every business line you add. Take and. Exhale. In. Aflac and a gentle wavelike motion. Aahhh ahhhhhh. Liberate your spine, ahhhahhhhhh aflac and reach, toes blossoming. Not that great at yoga. Yeah, but when i slipped a disk he paid my claim in just four days. Ahh
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