Your home tonight. Fair, balanced and unafraid. Greta goes on the record right now. What do you think the parents of beheaded journalist james foley think about president obama going golfing right after talking to the nation about their executed son. They told us when they think. John and diane foley going on the record. First, this weekend another horrific beheading by isis. Isis is pure evil and they are holding more hostages including americans. Representative peter king son othe Homeland Security committee e joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening, greta. Well, obviously, isis is not deterred by our strategy, at least not yet. They executed a third. Your thoughts tonight, sir . Well, first of all, this just proves, greta, that they are evil, diabolical organization and we have to do Everything Possible to
destroy them. You cannot negotiate with them. You cannot take any kind of conciliation. These are animals. They have to be killed and destroyed. And quite frankly, i dont think the president has shown yet that he really has the heart to go forward. Its always like one step forward and one step sideways. Im pretty old fashioned. I want to support the president as commander and chief. So far he has not shown me that he is fully committed to this. All right. What we are hearing the strategy is to arm the Syrian Rebels in syria but the problem with that is, is that as they arm them against isis, but if they are successful, arent we helping president assad of syria and he is a guy who gases his people. So what are we going to do . Well, of the two i think the more serious threat right now is isis. Having said that i saw questions about arming the presyrian army now. This would have been more successful two or three years ago. If were serious about going after isis, we cant be waiting for the three syrian
army to be trained and equipped. Thats going to take months and months and even then its going to be difficult to vet them, to get them this fighting shape, to get them ready and a, 15 to 30,000 men and women and isis certainly are men. Again, as far as assad, again, we put ourselves in this position. I think we have to make it clear that we are not here in any way to help assad. He may be a shortterm beneficiary. In the end our goal has to be destroy to destroy isis we ghoot loud power here. President obama addressed the nation and he told isis there will be no american boots on the ground. So they dont have to worry about that one. Well, first of all, you should never ever tell the enemy what you are not going to do. You shouldnt even tell them what you are going to do. We should put isis in position where they are fearful were going to use every possible weapon, every possible troop at our disposal. And then the president can decide what he want to do. I dont believe that we need a large amount of american
boots on the ground as far as full combat operations. We should rule nothing out. We are going to have to it operations. We are going to have to have american troops embedded with the iraqis and kurds. There could be a time where we will have to use american troops on the ground. And for the president to keep ruling it out, to me, that sends a bad signal not just to isis who is our enemy but also to countries that we are trying to get into a coalition because they still have not gotten faith back that they lost last year when president obama bailed out on them after he said he was going to bomb syria. Got certain country stos stand with us and then pulled the rug out. What do you think of the president s overall strategy . Is it going to beat isis, kill them, destroy them . Is it going to tread water or enable them to get bigger and stronger. Announced policy is to destroy them. Whats going to happen . With his announced policy are we going to beat them, kill them. Tread water and basically maintain or are they going to get bigger . Well, depending on when you listen to them. He has stated that his policy is to destroy isis. I think though that unless this policy has now is implemented immediately and forcibly and expanded on we are not going to destroy isis we are going to get in a war of attrition. Its hard to win a war of attrition against people who dont care whether they live or die or not that will wear down the American People. Thats what isis is looking for wear us down. He has to go all out and so far he has not shown that he is willing to do that. Congressman, thank you, sir. Greta, thank you. Now we continue our interview with the parents of journalist james foley who was beheaded by the very vicious isis. Tonight diane and john foley talk about first finding out their son had been kidnapped. The year they spent wondering, agonizing if james was even alive and why james went to syria in the first place. Talk about the danger, i mean, i imagine the family had some discussion about this or not . We did. Stay home christmas. He wanted to go back. I think he had some commitment that he felt he had to fulfill. Mom and dad i will be home for christmas and we can talk about it again. He was very aware of the risk though, greta. And, as a matter of fact, some of sis siblings were irritated with him. Angry. Angry is the word. But i think as a family, we came to know the palings passion he had for. This i think the more, as i was saying, greta, the more suffering he saw, particularly civilian and, you know collateral damage. Right, collateral damage, the more he felt compelled that the stories needed we people here in the United States have such a comfortable life and its so easy to take our freedoms for granted. And here he would see these people without freedom and
struggling so in the midst of it all. And he also saw that fewer dangers. So, jim was aware. Jim was a very courageous and committed. Yeah. Before his capture he began to write about the radicalization of the free syria forces and the infiltration of the jihadist group. So he, he was concerned he knew it was getting more dangerous. How did you know he had been kidnapped . One of his colleagues had been waiting at the Turkish Border for him to return. It was the day after thanksgiving. And we were concerned when we didnt hear from him on thanksgiving because jim always called or touched base the next day. Who took the call . I guess i did she said
what . Jim was supposed to meet me and he hasnt shown up. Exactly. Actually, claire short straw. She was the young lady captured with him in syria. So she called. In libya. Im sorry. In libya she called us. But nicole was the colleague that was awaiting him claire knew us so she was good enough to call. What do parents do when that happens . Immediately we were in shock, of course, and started praying. We have been praying through this whole ordeal. It was the strength of prayers of the world, really that gave jim the strength to survive the torture, beating, the whole ordeal we were very privileged to have
global post Security Team to offer, not every journalist has that option. They began the search. Within two weeks after. By that time, the his whereabouts was unknown or thats not true, his the people who were asked to know if they were knew where he was were unable to tell us it . Was unknown. What happened was the freelancers were frantic. They are really quite a close community. There were a lot of them who loved jim very much as well as many syrians. You know, and for those two weeks we had no fbi team no security frantic team searching and rumors started circulating and according to our Security Team it did confuse the situation a lot. No one knew where he went. There was rumors everywhere. And then two weeks after fbi, apparently i think went immediately notify the u. S. Government when you got that phone call . How does this work . We were notified by counselor affairs. So they called you. And this was how soon after thanksgiving . I dont know, maybe a day or two. Im not sure if thats accurate. A lovely young lady, carrie, who has become a friend, you know, called to let us know that they knew and said that fbi would be involved. Did they know who was holding him . Had you heard of the name ice at that point or isil. I dont think so there was an isil or isis at that point of any prominence. We are not world politicians or et cetera. We were unaware of isis or
isil at that point. Greta, we didnt know where jim was or if he was alive for nearly a year from that capture. Our first news that he was hopefully alive was the following fall. So we did not know where he was. Now, your other son was on, coincidently with me in january. That was about two months after he vanished. Umhuh. And at that time nobody knew anything. We didnt know. You hadnt heard anything from him. That continued for that year. We in the media pick this up through these stories and but we dont understand what the family is going through because we do other things. Was it like day to day it was just incredible like you are manning the phones and making phone calls or waiting for that phone call . Whats it like during that year . Well, i mean, we would make phone calls on a daily basis if we thought it made a big difference. You know, we worked with the
fbi, we worked with the Security Team there was no information. So we had to be, if you will, patient. And thats. Go ahead. So we knew from the fbi that they were telling us that jimmys situation was the highest priority. They were doing Everything Possible to find him. But they couldnt tell us anything for, i guess, security reasons. Our Security Team was actually busy. We had frequent calls from global post giving us updates in terms of what was happening and not happening, what information we had. But, there was nothing. There was nothing to. And we were told to not talk to the media at all by whom . Fbi we were counseled by them not to. Through the holidays,
praying, trying to figure out what to do. Talked to the fbi agent who did come up here and as john sa who was really working very hard to try to get leads. Try to figure out all the rumors and follow all the leads but then finally at the beginning of the year when michael talked to you, greta when we decided as a family we needed the help of the world. We had no idea where jim was or if he was alive when was the first time that you had any indication that he was alive . It was definitely the fall late september, early october we received a call from belgium man. And our son michael just thought it was just one of many people bothering us or whatever and but i was interested in it because i thought who knows . We fired him. Michael. Well. No but michael just thought it was another because we
had a lot of false rumors. So many were false. I talked to the man and he spoke reasonable english and he said our son my son has seen your son we want to tell you everything. We want to help you get your son out. His young son a belgium teenager had joined the jihad unbeknownst to his father and gone through syria and he ended up at one point being one of the guards for our son. And jim apparently had jim had a way with young people and apparently they became friendly. Jim asked him if he ever got out to please let us know and he did. He decided to leave. He decided to leave the movement. Yes, and his father was
frantic and was captured himself several times. Trying to find jezawin and bring him home which he did succeed in. They were just wonderful. A very but, of course, he was jailed when he went to belgium because he had joined theq0hnc jihad and but yt jesiwin and his father were cooperative to the fbi and gave us the first sign of hope, greta,that jim was alive. Barely but he was alive. What did they say the condition jim was in and what was going on with him. He said when jimmy first got there he was emaciated. We dont know where he had come from. Thats never been clear. But, over the time that he was there, the feeding improved and he said that he really had regained weight by the time that he left. Jesiwin had left. Our conversation with john and diane foley continues. You are about to hear their reaction to president obama playing golf right after him making a statement about their sons execution. Thats next. Also, you have seen this in the sweatshirt covered in blood and why does a major retailer want your children to buy it for 129 . I will tell you what i think offtherecord coming up. So what were looking for is a way to plus our Accounting Firms mobile plan. And minus our expenses. Perfect timing. Were offering our bestever pricing on mobile plans for business. Run the numbers on that. Well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be. Oneseventyfive a month. Good calculating kyle. Good job kyle. You just made partner. Our bestever pricing on mobile share value plans for business. Now with a 100 bill credit for every business line you add. Know that chasing performance and fewer choices in retirement. Know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. Know the right Financial Planning can help you save for college and retirement. Know where you stand with pnc total insight. A new investing and Banking Experiencewith personalized guidance and online tools. Visit a branch, call or go online today. The biggest risk of all. Not taking one. The new 6. 4liter hemi v8 ram power wagon. The most capable offroad truck there is. It lets you pick a fight. With the impossible. Good idea of what you think. But what do you think the foley parents think about president obama making a statement about their son executed on video in the most hideous images seen by the world and then he heads to the golf course . We asked the foley parents. You received a call from the pope. We did. We did. How soon, was that the day that your news broke. A day or two afterwards. The pope was grieving himself from he had recently had a nephew who was in a terrible car accident. The nephews wife was killed. Several of their children were killed he had a brain hemorrhage and gone to surgery initially and had to go back so. In his grief, the pope called us to share his sympathy over jims death we were very very grateful and honored and i think that that shows that the pope is a real humanitarian, a real caring human being like the
rest of us. What did he say to you . He said he is sorry for our grief. He is sorry that jim was killed. He suggested that he was a martyr for freedom. He said he would pray for us. He was just it was just very kind that in the the midst of his grief that he would reach out to us, you know. That was a blessing. , greta. That was a blessing. The president called . Oh, yes. The day the news broke the president called . Not. Not the day . No. The day after. Maybe the day after or two. Maybe it was the day after it could be. What did he say . He said that he was. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry that he died. His condolences and indicated they had done everything they possibly could to get jim ands others out. He told us about the raid. Thats the first we had ever
heard of it. And it was so late. I actually told president obama that jimmy believed in him. He worked hard it to get him elected. He believed in him and that he believed to the end that our government would come and get them. What do you think about that raid in july when they went to syria and jimmy wasnt there . Well, we appreciate the effort, certainly appreciate the courage of anyone going on such a mission. You know, we certainly appreciate that it was too late, greta it was much too late, dear. I really feel that well, we were hinted that they knew where they were for, jeesh, at different times they knew just where they were and but it was dangerous mission, mind you. Im not saying that we expected this huge military intervention. We just wanted somehow. Might be a possibility. Right. We thought it might be a possibility. Like all americans, we felt that our government would succeed at whatever it decided to do and were certainly dismayed that the effort was unsuccessful. Right. I suppose you know that many people were scandalized that the president gave his statement about your son and then the next thing we have is a picture of him golfing. Your reaction to that . Well, it was just you know, we were just disappointed as americans, thats all. You know. We feel, you know, americans should be important, you know. American citizens trying to do their work abroad. And we think our country can do better, thats all, greta. I just think we can jim thought we could. So we need to believe that we can. So, we pray that we can that jims death will help us all do some soul searching as a country, as a government, as families we need to too. We need to see, to better articulate what we needed if you will. Because we can do better, greta. I mean, you know, to be honest, you know, the other countries i visited when i was in europe, granted they are smaller countries and so its easier. Part of what is hard in our country is we are huge. We have got a big bureaucracy. Our country our government is very complex. So its really hard interest groups. Huge. So, even for the fbi agent who was working on our case didnt even know the state Department Agent who was working on it. So it was just its so it isnt anybodys fault. Its we want to be part of
that solution. I think we can do better, greta. This is a fox news alert. Fox news is confirming the u. S. Conducted an air strikes just southwest of baghdad today. The strike targeting isis. Were going to bring you more details as centcom makes them available. And james foleys terrifying time in captivity so cruel. Coming up his parents describe the unthinkable conditions as his failed escaped attempt. Plus, you will hear from a fellow journalist and friend of foleys. Plus ahead the white house says it has arab states offering air power against isis. Who are they . Ambassador john bolton is here next. Do you have something . I have bayer aspirin. Im not having a heart attack, its my back. I mean bayer back body. It works great for pain. Bayer back body provides effective relief for your tough pain. Better . Yeah. Thanks for the tip
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