Im actually not going to say who that was. I three weeks ago. Thanks for inviting. Greta right now. Could it really be just a coincidence. Just hours after president obamas top military advisor said he was keeping the ground open to send Ground Troops to fight isis. The chilling. A movie like video threatening to kill american Ground Forces if president obama deploys him. And senator kelly ayotte joins us. Good evening, senator. Good evening, greta. Senator, this video is absolutely chilling. Just released. You have seen it . I have seen portions of it and its totally disturbing. What it shows is that if you wonder if they are coming after us or if theyre a threat to us, i think its very clear from this video. The video was very personal about the United States. Even had the pictures of when president bush was president and he had the
mission accomplished. Showed the pictures of president obama as well in the white house. Made it very clear that they are paying attention to whats going on here. What struck me also like a hollywood movie trailer is the way its being described. I think it shows their sophistication with media this video shows that very well. Also, understanding what we are dealing with the amount of money that is being brought in by this organization every day. At least a Million Dollars if not more. And then the amount of territory that they control. I think it really brings home the kind of threat that we are facing. What could possibly be their motive though. This is what i dont understand. The president said no boots on the ground. He made that plain. That was after general dempsey testifying before the committee that you are on said something that left the door open. What could possibly be the motive for doing this slick video except for it to be basically obnoxious on top of their evil . Well, they are clearly obnoxious, greta. I think we cant have any allusions. This is a group that hates what we stand for. We have seen this before with al qaeda. And so i think that there, again, making very clear that the United States of america is an enemy of isis. And so they are making clear not only with their actions that they have done and the horrific beheadings that they have unfortunately carried out on americans, but this video is just, again, showing that they believe that we are their enemy and so i think in order to defeat them, i just want to highlight yesterday, here we have, again, the president ruling out what his top military leader has said is something that should not be ruled out. Its a consistent pattern where he actually isnt listening fully to his military commanders. And let me just say one last thing about the video. I mean, we are not showing the video because we are not in the business of showing isis propaganda. But we may show some still shots to illustrate what it is. All right. Let me go to that question of boots on the ground. President obama says no boots on the ground. Senator kerry saysr[
working with iraq forces and the kurds on the ground is that the reason is he not ruling it out is because as general odierno has said we do have to root them out. The air strikes alone are not effective to defeat them. If the question is how effective are these iraqi forces on the ground . We hear six months to train 5,000 and done in saudi arabia. Maybe. How realistic if we cant get them up to speed to fight anyway if they even have the wherewithal to
fight. Isis meanwhile is growing at leaps and bounds. Exactly. I mean you now know the estimate is over 31,000 members for isis. This is an army. This isnt just a group were dealing with anymore. And so it is going to take an army to defeat an army. Senator, nice to see you. Thank you. Goods to see you, greta. Now to extremely disturbing evidence of isis support right here in the u. S. A rochester, new york man indicted on charges of frying to provide Material Support to isis and trying to murder u. S. Soldiers. Fox news chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge joins us. Whats going on . Greta, if you look at the court documents, and im sure you have what you see is that this rochester man is accused of being part of this pipeline from the United States, getting citizens from the heartland to isis, specifically in iraq and syria. But here is what has my attention much the allegation is that a man trying to move fighters not only to isis but also to yemen and also somalia. That tells you two things. That this operates very much like a criminal as i understand cat. Money is a big on top of the religious ideology. There is also a fair amount of coordination between these terrorist groups. Remember, al qaeda. Its principle operator is in yemen. Somalia, we have had that trail to minneapolis. And now we are seeing from upstate new york a pipeline to syria and iraq. How long has he he been doing this . Whats his background . Is he americanborn . He is not americanborn. He was born oversead. He is a naturalized u. S. Citizen. What i have seen is really in the last five to six years when we have seen a spike in these cases, i would say about 30 tend to be naturalized citizens. All right. Also paraphernalia from isis where . This was brought by group memory. Research research institute, and they found these articles, you know, caps,
hats, visors, i mean, key chains. This is the kind of thing. They are selling trinkets. They are selling trinkets. The kind of thing you would associate with a sports team. To me what has my attention is that that is be part of a club. Be part of something bigger than yourself. These were being sold predominantly on facebook pages whose owners were in france and indonesia. Not specifically the United States. This shows you how the isis message is permeating. They are trying to mainstream it in america almost kids wear hats and tshirts absolutely terrible we are seeing that thank you. You are welcome. President obama speaking to the headquarters of the u. S. Central demand in florida. Speaking with u. S. Service members behind him. Was the speech effective or a photo op. . Do you send those men and those women into harms way without a clear cut strategy . The enemy took two american journalists and beheaded them on video the
american public has actually taken the lead and is leading the commander and chief into this. I dont believe the objective is destroy. I think the objective has morphed into something less than that. Either we are at war with these people and we are going to crush them or this is a Counter Terrorism program like new york city where we will stay there for years and years picking out the good guys and bad guys and not offending anyone. Former navy seal karl higby joins us. Nice to he see you sir. Nice to he see you, greta. Photo op. Or something in between. Complete photo op. This is indicative of a global failure of his Foreign Policy. He has toted that he is behind the troops before. And he stands in front of these guys, gets a photo op. And everything like that while saying im going to send 3,000 of you guys to combat ebola but not to actual threat to america. Mixed bag . I would say most of the troops probably over 90 do not support the president. As a navy seal you have
trained foreign troops, right . Yes. More than one trip to iraq. We did that two doe pliments one in 2007 and one in 2009. National defense over there its not effective they dont have the accountability and understanding and fortitude to fight an enemy like isis who is dedicated. They are willing to die for this cause. Meaning isis is willing to die for this cause . Absolutely. What about the foreign fighters that you have come in contact with in the universe of people we would be training. We train the best of the best. The best of iraq had the best to train with us. I dont think they are confident enough to take on a group like isis . What would it take . Is there any way to get them up to speed . Hear numbers six months to train a thousand. You cant put time on it we train these guys for years on end. Different teams rolling through, training training training. And nothing was happening. They werent they still were not an effective fighting force. But why . Its going to take a massive message. I would say to these people, especially to the president
say, look, you had chopped two americans heads off, im going to get you. Thats what it is going to take, massive bombs. Surge of troops unfortunately and send the message home. They need to be in fear of us. Its easy for me to sort of i saw the james foley video. I mean, its easy for me to want to send boots on the ground because, you know, so enaged by what isis did to an american. I am not the one thats going to be going. I mean realistically, one of those people actually going to go what do they think . Im curious, you know, would you go again . Yes. For the most part, our troops will go over there. They want to fight this fight. They join the military to fight a war. To combat the problem. To combat something thats threatening our homeland. And these troops will go over there and they will fight with all their heart. We are the most lethal fighting force the world has ever known and history has ever known. Let us go over there and take away the rules of engagement. Battle on the home front. Fight the battle and take our handcuffs off. Thank you for your
service. Thank you very much. Thank you. Today president obama and secretary of state john kerry both just said it again. As your commander and chief i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. The president will not put american Ground Troops into iraq. The president made it clear again today at a statement he maids at centcom that america can make a decisive im quoting the president. We can make a decisive difference, i want to be clear the troops that have been District Attorney employed cannot and will not have a come pat mission. Thats one day after the chairman of joint chiefs of staff Jeremiah Dempsey said this. My view at this point is that this coalition is the pront way forward. I believe that will prove true. If it fails to be true and if there are threats to the United States then i, of course, would go back to the president and make a recommendation that may include the u. S. Of militaryGround Forces. Why do president obama and secretary kerry feel the need to keep insisting there will knob boots on the ground in iraq and syria . Joining us our political panel. They keep saying it maybe weg i. Unpopular. 61 of people in a president ial done by cnn recently said they oppose moving Ground Forces into the area by isis. These politicians november is approaching. No one wants to say this is something that we should do. I think that there is a lot of confusion around what needs to be done by both members of congress and by the administration. And the best way to actually approach this by one thing that is for sure is that people do not support this at this time. Mary, sort of interesting, but people support getting isis. I mean isis is evil and, you know, the American People are absolutely appalled what happened there. Of course we should also be talking about boko haram in africa but thats another story. Why do he they keep saying no boots on the ground . The only way to
understand this president s comments is in the context of responding to the panic on the political left that he we are sliding down a slippery slope toward war. So the president felt the need to come out today and reiterate again no boots on the ground. No ground war. Well, greta, thats a straw man. No one is talking about the kind of military commitment that george w. Bush put into iraq. I think. Less than a decade ago. I think some people are old enough to remember the vietnam war. We started off with just a few and then we got a few more. Suddenly like 500,000. Its bad strategically. Its just stupid to tell your enemy what you wont do. Its also terrible politically. Because what you heard, general Martin Dempsey say is there may be a point in the future where we need to have Ground Troops on the ground. So when to win this war. The president may risk democratic support if it does turn out that he needs to have troops on the growntd. I agree with everything thats been said. Partly playing to the polls. Partly play cacketting the left. Its also partly deeply psychological and philosophical. This is a president who prides himself almost above anything else besides obamacare on ending the war, quote, unquote. In iraq. So the last thing he wants to do is go back in. Were already bombing, but go back in on the ground. And thats a profound strategic mistake. Because i think to make it work, its very likely you are going to have to have some ground element. So you have him supposedly willing the end of destroying isis. But not willing. General odierno says he thinks there has to be boots on the ground in order to beat isis. He didnt say american boots on the ground and i guess thats back to the whole idea of training others. Of course you heard the former navy seal was just here that says the training other forces is very difficult. Absolutely true. Going to take Ground Forces. These are motley forces on the ground. Iraqi army. The kurdish. Sunni tribes may be the very most important piece of it americans veghts them. Advising them, and working very closely with them near the front lines. Philip, do you know anybody who says and in our
leadership, American Leadership that says these air strikes alone will get rid of isis . I dont. Have you stumped me. I dont know anybody said that. Neither die by the way. Secretary of state was on the sunday shows this week. He said we need Ground Forces. Everyone agrees there needs to be Ground Forces but not american one. Then you have the problem which ground force we all agree ground force not to. Destroy isis. Two deployments trying to actually train them. He says thats going to be difficult. I dont get where we are going on this. Larger problem is that the president s Foreign Policy of leading from behind has failed. And the character of this president cimed of commitment and sacrifice its going to take to keep
the country safe. If we didnt do air strikes, would this be selfcontained and not our problem . We are willing to take that risk. This is a dangerous group that has now massive resources and controls a vast swath of territory. My hats off to general dempsey because he really fulfilled his obligation, which is not just to give the president unvarnished advice but to tell the truth to congress. He gave completely uncontroversial honest answer, which is if this current strategy doesnt work, we have to consider the next thing and the push back you have had from president obama on down against that is really extraordinary. Panel, thank you. Thank you. You are welcome. Now to capitol hill. Benghazi select committee Holding First public hearing. Trey gowdy is here to go on the record. Lets go inside todays critical hearing. Now is the time, clear the smoke. Remove the mirrors. Rpg attacks. Assassination attempts on the british ambassador. This is as bad as it gets. They say we need more good guys here and the state Department Says you are not going to get that well
reduce what you had. Ignoring the ambassador, who, by their own admission, is the expert in the area, thats not giving unusual deference to his judgment is it, mr. Secretary . Difficult question, mr. Congressman. No, its very straightforward. We know the risk in benghazi. What policy were we pursuing in libya was so great it overcame all of the risks . Not being here at the time, sir, i cannot answer that question for you. I do believe that many of us understood if we lost half of libya, that if we lost the confidence of the people after the revolution in libya, that he we were going to pay a terrible price. Committee chair trey gowdy joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening, how are you. I want to tell you i did some Research Today and i thought you should know that the the Washington Post is describing you today as saying he played it straight. I guess that cant get any better than that, can it. Well, if thats your goal and that was our goal was to play it straight and to prove to our fellow citizens
that some things can rise above the den of politics. So i appreciate anyone who reached that conclusion. That was our objective. What did you learn today . There is bipartisan frustration with this cycle. We have Blue Ribbon Commission that makes recommendations, and yet the attacks come. One of the most important parts of the hearing today, i thought, was going back 25 years to the beirut barracks bombing. Almost identical. That bombing, east africa bombings in 1998 and here we are in benghazi. The state department wont change. Tell me if this is correct from the hearing today. According to the arb the review board the state department, they said that ambassador stevens was an expert of some sort in security. Was that right . Did they say that . Well, they said he was an expert with respect to libyan policy. Okay. And that he had asked numerous times for more security. He had done that . Yes, maam. All right. Unquestionably when he asked, was anything done . Well, no only thing that was done is we reduced our security footprint. That was a line of questioning that you showed a clip of from illinois which is you talk about how wonderful the ambassador was, and he was that wonderful. But yet when he asked on a Seminole Point of providing more security in benghazi, you turned him down, in fact, you have reduced our security footprint. This should outrage all americans irrespective of your political ideation which is why i think mr. Cummings at the end said you know what . We need another hearing on essentially this very same topic. And i was very hardened to hear him say that. He also i should say that you dont see this very often. Pointing out Ranking MemberElijah Cummings had great pays first topic of the first hearing. This was proposed by a democratic member of your