Chris christie or not. Anyway, thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. Fair balanced and unafraid. Greta goes on the record right now. Make a great weekend. It is a terrorist army on a savage march. But who is isis . They combine viciousness on the ground with a supremacy in social media. Its trying to create the largest caliphate it can. What do we know about the man wearing a wristwatch who says he is the rightful leader of isis. Faulker has been a shadowy presence for a very long time. And how he is using a former Catholic School student from the boston area to spread propaganda. Including the beheading videos around the world. Why do you think this mosque keeps ending up attached to terrorism . Isis controls the area the size of kansas across iraq and syria. You will see why they are the richest terrorist organization on earth. This is like a digital network. Almost like a tv station. We take you inside a terrorist troop war that surprised al qaeda. The United States and our allies. Or did it . Now, from studio j at fox news headquarters, here is greta van susteren. What is isis and what do they want . Over the past decade colonel oliver north and war stories team have made more than 15 trips to iraq where isis is currently gaining ground. Oliver north joins us. Ollie, what does isis want . They want a caliphate, a country of their own that goes from the la vante and control every aspect of it politically, diplomatically and, of course, carry out sharia law as they see it in that part of the world that they now claim is a new Islamic State. Is there any indication that they would even stop at
that . No, in fact, they have said that they are going to take the fight here to the United States. They are going to take it to western europe. Thats all part of their global caliphate that is in the long range plan. People often say that these kinds of organizations dont have a beyond tomorrow because some of their followers want to die in the process. In ancient revolutions like the 1917 bulavec they all want to survive the experience. Relatively few of those engaged in this fight really do want to survive the experience. What are we doing, the United States, to stop this . Well, not enough. If the idea is to destroy isis, we have started out the wrong way. First, the what the troops call the obama bugout from iraq in 2011. And now you are looking at a situation where they literally dominate the arab part of syria, and iraq, all the way down to south of baghdad and, of course, they are making millions of dollars a day from oil
revenues in addition to the money they have stolen from banks, in addition to the money that they make from everything from extortion to protection reacts to ransom. All right, ollie, you really dug into how isis came about. Lets take a look at that. Isis clearly at this point is the worlds most terrorist group. Jihadist state. Ph. D. In islamic history and served in the u. S. Army as an arabic speaking specialist. However, unlike al qaeda, still focused on the near enemy. Its trying to create the largest caliphate it can particularly the arab middle east now includes much the territory in syria and iraq. Isis has effectively erased the border between the two countries. Islamic state bases its claim to the caliphate on really two main things. Many ways the literal reading of the karan, traditions that go back to
mohammed. They claim like a. All jihadists they follow the path of mohammed who established the first Islamic State in the seventh century. Remember when they talk about the lands of islam they mean all those lands that have ever been part of islam. Professor at Princeton University is one of the worlds foremost middle eastern scholars. They see the lands of islam as being invaded and occupied by nonmuslims. The militant jihadis in isis are led by their selfproclaimed leader. 43yearold abu baghdadi. Their goal . To kill or drive out socalled infidels from the lands where islam has reigned from centuries. The last caliphate really gentlemen lit mad adoman one established at the end of world war i. They think they are recreating that in some ways they think their caliphate is arab is even more legitimate than ottoman which is turk itish. They believe that the only legitimate religious belief is their particular harsh brand of tsunami islam. Any other who holds any other belief offensively muslim is deemed heretic libel to death or certainly exile. Isis emerged from the al qaeda in iraq or aqi. The Predecessor Group to that was the group that abu sar suzuki started. He became the head of aqi. Battling against u. S. Coalition forces on the streets of fallujah from maddy. Isis has been able to ellipse al qaeda by the fact that they rule a state. They are not hiding in caves and on the margins of the islamic world. [gunfire] they have a lot of fellows that have fought jihad, some afghanistan, many against our forces and the Iraqi Government forces in iraq as well as many against the government
forces of Bashar Al Assad in syria. They have put all of these together. And when you add those to the fact that the United States really has not been there in any force for several years. The terrorist army of isis is now estimated to have more than 30,000 fighters from 70 countries. The way they achieve their goals is horrific. When isis takes over a sunni territory, it imposes strict islamic law, sharia, such as amputations for stealing, crucifixions and such for apostasy, as we know beheadings, isis clearly refers to as the two different passages in the karan that refer to the beheading of unbelievers on the battlefield. All indications show that many, if not all, isis fighters have a fanatical belief of fighting to the death. They really have, in many ways general dempsey said this a few weeks ago an apocalyptic viewpoint. Isis clearly is talking about end of time battles. Armageddon type battles. So isis is still on this ancient quest but now its using 21st century technology. Lets bring in Catherine Herridge the author of the next wave. Can you date about when isis began and how its been able to move so swiftly to get 30,000 plus followers. Isis a continuation of what we know as al qaeda in iraq. And in simple terms, this is really a group thats like al qaeda 3. 0. Its younger, its leaner, its meaner, and its a generation that really grew up with social media. And this is the life blood of the new digital jihad. This is how they are able to spread their message and give that impression that they are not just in iraq and syria but also here in the United States as well. But 30,000 people in roughly, what, a year and a half, two years . I mean, its really hard to date it from the beginning. I find the 30,000 number extremely significant. Unusual for the cia to
release a number in such a public way. I believe that thats an effort to further support or justify the administrations strategy now. And i think its also radio a reflection of the fact that the cia is somewhat politicized on this issue. And when you speak to people in the intelligence community, they still dont have a great handle on how many people are actually in theater fighting on behalf of isis. Ollie, we have learned more than 70 countries, isis fighters. You know, its actually moved so quickly. As catherine just pointed out, they are experts at using social media. Back in the days of aqi, no one heard of twitter or facebook or anything like that within the organization. It was then being fought by u. S. Marines and soldiers throughout on bar province. The significant point of the number of recruits from foreign countries, of course is that many of them r. Feared they would be able to return to their countries. There is the is possibility that youngsters who have been over there trained, equipped, fought and now come back know how to build
an ied. Know how to build a improvised explosive device or commit suicide wearing a bomb vest made of nothing more or less than what two brothers found useful at a boston marathon. How is our intelligence gathering . It seems like all of the sudden everyone is talking about isis. Has our intelligence gathering been such . We have been following this or monitoring this or are we behind. Based on our reporting ongoing with fox with our team since 2009 this was on the intelligence communitys radar for at least five years. And what we know now from our reporting is that the president was receiving information about the growing threat from isis or the rise of isis in iraq and syria for at least a year in whats called the president s daily brief. This is the most highly prized and classified document thats produced by the intelligence community. So this idea that the Intelligence Committee let the community down or somewhat blind sided i dont think holds any water. Ollie and catherine, stand by. How isis is using
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has evolved since 9 11 with social media. The attacks of 9 11 used 19 men in four hijacked airplanes to kill nearly 3,000 people in new york city, the pentagon and in shanksville, pennsylvania. We have been traveling around the United States. From southern california, it was adam can a dan English Speaking spokesperson for usama bin Ladens Al Qaeda network. Theyre the ones that started this dirty war and theyre the ones who will end it. He is still missing and has a milliondollar reward on his head. As fox news has reported extensively it was this dual citizen of yemen and america who went from being invited as luncheon guest at the pentagon after 9 11 to a digital recruiter for al qaeda. He turned operable. Fox news has reported on the cleric for years. With the command of english, arabic and the internet. U. S. Citizen Anwar Alawlaki was linked to terror
attempts. Attempt by the socalled underwear bomber to blow up a plane on christmas day. Massacre of fort hood which killed 13. Al awlaki was killed in yemen in 20111 by a predator hell fire missile. But he lives on through this man abdullah shae. Even after serving time in yemeni prison for his actions on behalf of al awlaki and al qaeda in arabian peninsula, shae recently announced his support for caliphate press to 10,000 followers on twitter. He tweeted this photo himself with al awlaki. Isis has taken social media to a whole new level. Isis uses all platforms everything from facebook to twitter to yelp, restaurant recommendations in syria. Because they use all these different platforms, they get a lot of access to the younger set. Richard reynolds is a retired army officer who spent half of his 30 year
career in the middle east, investigating terrorist and their network of contacts. We see perhaps as many as 125 different languages being used by isis and isis accounts. People may not have homes or jobs or cars, but everyone has got a phone. Right. You know, isis has a media center. Just seems to me that isis almost has a Rapid Response team. An event happens, they have got their message up. Where is the old style al qaeda can sometimes take weeks to respond. Isis also hijacks big news events online using a Sophisticated Media center. Analyzing the highly produced execution videos. The media center in syria. This is like a digital network. Its almost like a tv station if you will. They have the ability to move cameras, lighting, sound, into an austere
situation, do the deed without being molested, nobody is dropping bombs on them or observing them overhead. Move back to their fixed facility, media center and still get it on the web in a matter of minutes. They have the capability to get the equipment, the money to do it. Does it look to you like they have got a team with professional training . Yes. It does. Maybe even former journalist . They may be former journalist. There is some suspicion that some people in the Music Industry is helping them with music and sound. Maybe even with executions. And its media guru is believed to be this 33yearold american from the boston area all medicine abu asamara. He was born in france and speaks multiple languages can appear across multiple platforms. This is what doing online
now. See them taking s and sending out their material. Theyre looking at whats trending in the u. S. And then they are hijacking that. And they did that with those nude celebrity pictures. Jennifer lawrence that whole group . Exactly. How quickly can some kid in st. Louis make a decision like make contact, make a decision and then go to syria . Days, hours . Days . We will see somebody that will read the social media entry. It resonates with them. They go right out, take their mom and dads credit card, buy an airplane ticket and fly off to turkey or jordan or lebanon. Catherine, why are terrorists using words like pajamas and recipe in social media post. Great thing for investigators is that isis puts its message right out there in the open. You just need to know where to find. If if you collect and sift through this information, what investigators saying a grey gait the information, you can see what they are talking about most. But what often jumps out are
phrases like so cute or pajamas or Peanut Butter and investigators try to drill down to see whether this may be some kind of code or a message that they are trying to communicate to their followers sort of under the radar. This is so profoundly different than al qaeda. Isnt it . The isis vs. Al qaeda is hugely different with social media. Its a generational divide. Really with isis they found a way to use social media that pours gasoline on the fire of radicalization. In the old days, and when i say the old days, im talking about 9 11, it used to be that for someone to be recruited or radicalized they had to have this kind of oneonone contact like you and i are having right now. Sort of the mentoring thing. Social media has really erased that younger people who have grown up with social media make that very intimate contact on line so intimate that they can have that confidence to either carry out act of violence here at home or travel overseas to join jihad and
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