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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren September 29, 2014 23:00:00

A Cyber Security guru that you you dont want to miss. Greta goes on the record right now. Right here in just moments the sister of oklahoma beheading suspect alton nolen goes on the record. First, where does the buck stop in the white house . Clearly not with the president. Listen to him throw his head of intelligence under the bus. How did they end up where they are in control of so much territory . Was that a complete surprise to you . Well, i think our head of the Intelligence Community jim clapper has acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. Tonight former congressman allen west, Adam Kinzinger and john bolton are all here to respond to the president. We begin with congressman west. Nice to he see you, sir. Gadd to be with you, greta. The president says it was the Intelligence Community underestimating it. First of all in the military leaders take responsibility. They dont take credit. For this person, who has been receiving daily Intelligence Briefings that he has had left on his desk, has not been reading. For this president and for the entire world, who saw isis cross over the border into iraq take out fallujah and ramadi back in february, he referred to them as a Junior Varsity team, jv team, obviously he underestimated. Can i guarantee you when you go back and look at the former director of defense and intelligence agency, everywhere was tracking isis, everyone was tracking exactly what they were doing. All isis is al qaeda in iraq who has been rebranded, retooled, refitted and now they have come back. Josh earnst, White House Press secretary said today the president has complete confidence in the Intelligence Community. This after he threw them under the bus last night. Thats the double speak. Thats them coming in now. The white house mouth piece has to it try to clean this up. Because, if the president was honest, if the Obama Administration was honest with the fact that they are playing politics not practicality on the ground. It goes to not keeping a residual force and understanding who isis is. When you come up and isis not islamic. Are they men mennonites or amish . They have overtaken, overrun 60 kurdish villages and last week they overran an iraqi army base. How does the president miss this, a and Catherine Herridge is going to be with us in a second to explain some shocking information. How does the president miss this. Actually throw his Intelligence Community under the bus . I think your seconds question has to do with his cycley. Inability to accept responsibility. Really. Is that not being a leader . Well, its obvious he is not a leader. The first one is about a dereliction of duty. If you are receiving those Intelligence Briefings, you are not allowing the staff to brief it you are quote unquote read it on your own andner have followup questions. You have to ask the question is the president s head in the game as far as his number one priority . His number one title and responsibility as commander and chief. How does dni clapper stay on the job . Sure. He got caught lying to the u. S. Senate and he apparently dodged that bullet. He kept his job and then last night the president says that he puts the blame on clapper, that the Intelligence Community head of the Intelligence Community that he under estimated. How does he keep his job. How does anyone keep their job in the Obama Administration . How does lois lerner keep her job and six figure retirement. How does anyone keep their job in the veterans administration. Thats the entire fallacy in the administration. No one is responsible. We continue to see these failures, these misunderstandings, missteps and no one is responsible. How does eric holder keep his job after fast and furious . How does anyone keep their job when we abandoned four americans to die in benghazi. Thats the bigmilliondollar question. Its stunning though the old expression the buck stops here and with the president and something so important as this. You know, saying they. Meaning somebody else. Well, thats the difference, like i said. Leadership takes responsibility. It doesnt take credit. And the president always comes out and says i and my except when something goes wrong. Congressman, always nice to he sue, thank you. Thank you. As president obama blames the Intelligence Community for underestimating isis in syria. Intelligence officials telling fox news, well, a very different story. Fox news chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge joins us. Nice to see you, catherine. Nice to see you, greta. You have different information than the president throwing the Intelligence Community under the bus. Thats right. A military intelligence source told fox news that there were options on the table for the president and his team to target the leadership of this group, isis as well as the khorasan which is this Al Qaeda Groupin syria for at least 18 months leading up to the recent strikes in syria. So so this completely undercuts the idea that the Intelligent Community was not on top of who the leadership was and was not tracking them in a very active way. How does the president get this information . He would get that in specialized briefings. How often . I dont have the time frame. I dont want to give your viewers bad information. But, you would have a specialized briefing from the special Operations Command because they would be putting together these targeting packages. What i know separately and i feel comfortable discussing on the air is that this information about the rise of isis as well as khorasan was in the president s daily brief for well over a year. This is the highly classified assessment that is delivered to him on a daily basis. Is the Intelligence Community tonight, you have heard any information that they are grumbling that the president threw them under the bus . What im hearing from people is when president bush, after 9 11 realized what the error had been, he was willing to declassify the president s daily brief to show people what information was available to him. And im hearing from people in the Intelligence Community that president obama should do the same thing. So the American People can see what exactly he was given and whether he was blind sided or whether he was given adequate information that should have been acted on. President bushhow soon after . Time period . Grace period of some sort . Thats the hardest question. I would have to go back and give you a good answer. You but he did release them. And thats the test here. Will this president be willing to release this information and let the public decide for themselves whether he was given adequate warning or whether, in fact, James Clapper and the Intelligence Community let him down. Catherine, always nice to see you. Its good to see you too. Representative Adam Kinzinger is a former air force pilot he is just back from the syria, turkey border in iraq. He joins us. Nice to see you, sir. Nice to see you. Thanks for having me. What did you see at the border . It was intense. I met with leadership free syrian army battalions. They have a lot of concern. They have been at this three and a half years against assad. They see assad creator of isis, creating in essence this vacuum of leadership or isis has come in behind the free syrian army. They are very worried. All right. Its sort of curious that you say that you met with the leadership of free syrian army. Last week secretary of defense hagel didnt know who they were. Yeah. I mean its interesting. You have many different p saudi arabia and whole ball of wax. What is the syrian army saying about the Obama Administration . They are very disappointed. They look at it as you are willing to go into iraq. We are giving you freedom on the platter and you are turning your back on us. They are angry. They support the isis strike but to them still the bigger enemy is sad. They are worried about us not attacking assad. They think even a nofly zone would be beneficial. There is a real humanitarian crisis. There is no really good options in syria because we waited too long. The president evidently didnt see this coming, even though many of us did. Also khorasan, the Al Qaeda Group there as well. Thats right. Yeah. Thats a big issue, too. The problem is this has spread into iraq. Today when you look at iraq, i have a hard time seeing how the kurds, as tough as they are at fighting are going to be able to lib rate large swaths of iraqi territory. They already have a thousand mile border. How effective have our air strikes been in syria . In syria i i think they have disturbed isis a little bit. They definitely have not halted the advance with isis moving into border towns with turkey in iraq they did stop the momentum. Irbill was very much threatened. Ready to fall. It stopped the movement of isis there. It is not dislodging them. In order to bring the Iraqi Military and Kurdish Forces to liberate that is going to take a lot of work. Asked for lone wolfs to attack the United States. We have killed some of the leadership but i heard somebody the other day say we dont believe that those strikes actually stopped any kind of an attack on the homeland. But isis has made it clear in social media and otherwise that they want to attack the homeland of the United States, too. They are just, instead of the being the Khorasan Group which takes advantage of a bad situation to plan attacks on the United States, they are focused on establishing their state first and exporting their terror here. It will be much tougher to defeat. We have the problem with turkey with all those refugees from syria flowing into turkey. And iraq i went through refugee camp in iraq. I thought this december it was terrible. A 13yearold girl with her brother, thats 5 years old with Cerebral Palsy with no medical attention and she is taking care of him because their parents were killed by isis. 97yearold people couldnt even leaf their homes they left with the clothes on their back. I want to say this to folks too say thats over there it doesnt matter or just let everybody kill each other. Its a real human tragedy and the innocent are the ones who get killed. If you see it you never forget it. Absolutely right. Congressman, thank you, sir. Thank you. Lets all go offtherecord for main. Okay, this is weird. President obama is so hung up on not being the war president that he sounds, well, silly. He wont admit the obvious. President obama refusing to say we are at war with isis. Are you saying that this is not really a war . What im saying is that we are assisting iraq in a very real battle thats taking place on their soil with their troops but we are providing air support. This is not america against isil. This is america leading the International Community to assist a country with whom we have a Security Partnership with. Okay. He wouldnt answer that simple he question. He heard it it and he necessary exactly what the question is but he deliberately dodged answering it. Thats weird. You know actually silly. He could not possibly think we are not at war with isis. Is he lobbing hundreds of tomahawk missiles blow up others including americans thats called war. Does president obama think the American People are so naive that if he says it isnt war or dodges the question that we will think we are not at war . Think about it. If someone were lobbing hundreds of tomahawk missiles into the United States or dropping fighter bombs on the u. S. Capitol we would say it is war because it is war. You just cant sugar coat it mr. President , whether you like it or not, you are a war president. So now lets get over the silly stuff to the important stuff. Lets win. Thats my offtherecord comment tonight. And joining us former u. N. Ambassador john bolton. Nice to see you, sir. Nice to be here. Why wont he say its war. Two reasons. One its political. His base doesnt want to face up to the reality that we are at war. Number two, i think even more important is ideology. Its an ideology is that says there is no war on terror. There is no terror threat. We should treat this as a Law Enforcement matter. The way an ideology works in this circumstance is its a screen over perception. Facts come in that contradict it and the ideology rejects the facts. Thats why he is not reading his briefing books. The whole thing is weird. He throws the Intelligence Community under the bus unless of course he is right on that. We dont know. He hasnt released the briefing so we know for sure. He appears to throw them under the bus. He wont call this a war, yet, he is sending missiles into drones into yemen and north pakistan and every place else to kill people. Now we have got this situation. I dont know why is he so hung up on not calling it war. Just to satisfy a 2008 Campaign Slogan . I dont get it. Well, it is silly. But it conceals, i think, the reality of the failure of the administrations grasping what was happening. Not two months ago or three months ago but 8 or the months ago when isil or isis was overrunning ramadi and fallujah. They were all saying this group is strong and growing stronger there, it was 8 or 9 months ago. Is there a debate to be had . Is it possible we are not at war when he we are firing these missiles and trying to kill people and he theyre trying to kill other people. The president himself has said that isis shoulden destroyed and he we are going to use american air assets to do it. If thats not the definition of war i honestly dont understand what it could be. Its so bizarre that now im hung up on it im like what in the world is he thinking . I think his heart is not in it it i dont think he wants to be there. I think he is hoping he wants it to go away. I dont know. When you send all those missiles and try to kill people and theyre trying to kill you back, if that doesnt sound like war, i dont know what does. Benjamin netanyahu in a blistering comparison, iran and isis comparing them. Here is part of his speech. Ladies and gentlemen, would you let isis enrich uranium . Would you let isis bailed heavy water reactor . Would you let isis build Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles . Of course you wouldnt. Then you mustnt let the Islamic State of iran do those things either. Back to your thoughts. Look the other way, Prime Minister netanyahu very good speech today. Its the speech our president should have given but, of course, did not. What he is saying is that the threat posed by a nuclear iran is isis on steroids. The main threat, not just to israel but to the United States and our friends in the middle east is a nuclear iran. Its the largest financier of state supporter of terrorism. 197. The terrorist threat is not just isis. Its iran. It seems like negotiated with iran about their Nuclear Weapons program has been iran running out the clock. They keep getting extensions which is fine. Like isis keeps building its force. Time is on its side. Theyre working on their programs. Exactly. And thats why iran would be content to continue to negotiate as long as it could break through the sanctions even more, which is what president rooney offered in his speech at the General Assembly last week. If you want help with isis we are glad to give it im worried that perhaps in october is october surprise. Perhaps after the election so he doesnt have to rye veal how many concessions he is going to make. The president is going to cut a deal with iran on this nuclear program. It will be a bad deal. It will mean iran will be on a fast track to Nuclear Weapons. A year ago Prime Minister netanyahu telling around the corner iran having nuclear weapon. We are now a year advanced. Is it just around the corner or not . It is just around the corner if they wanted to rush to build one nuclear weapon. I think they could do it in a couple of months. They are no hurry because they dont fear the United States or fear the possibility of a military attack on the Nuclear Weapons program. They think israel is under control. They are building a a much more sophisticated, much more extensive network. Nuclear infrastructure that will turn out dozens of Nuclear Weapons. Is the Intelligence Community underestimating iran. I dont think they are under estimating it. I think they are in a mystical land where they say we dont know for sure that they are really Building Nuclear weapon which is edge the only explanation for this nuclear activity. Thank you, sir. Thank you. President obama essentially saying dont blame me. The president blame pointing a finger at clapper and the community for underestimating isis. Political panel is he

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