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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren October 6, 2014 23:00:00

Udall and cory gardner. We will have it all covered for you from denver. Be sure to tune in. Greta goes on the record right now. This is a fox news alert. Get ready for ebola screenings right here in americas headquarters. You or someone you know could be tested for ebola the next time you fly. President obama announcing new plans to start errant ebola screenings. The president did not give us specifics about his plan. One thing we do know ebola is right here in the United States right now. Two patients in isolation. Can we prevent an outbreak . There has been scare after scare as international flitsd bring passengers from ebola hot zones into the u. S. Tonight we have Live Team Coverage on the ebola threat here at home. First, are americans losing confidence in president obama . We spoke with donald trump. Donald, nice to see you. His, greta. All right. The former director of the cia, former secretary of defense leon panetta has a new book coming out he a bless terring interview today in which he was quoted as saying that the president has kind of lost his way. I think he said a lot worse than that and from what i understand the book is worse than that he has no confidence. Which in all fairness is very disloyal a at the same time he is telling it the truth. If im on obama side, which i dont happen to be. There is great disloyalty in that statement. He was trying to to be honest and probably telling the truth. Why has the president lost his way or whats the problem with his presidency . There is no trust in our government. There is no trust in our decisionmaking aspects of government. You look at whats going won isis. How long thats been brewing. That didnt just happen. Enough to they are saying you need the boots on the ground. You need here we go again. We have been doing it for 15 years and now we are supposed to go back again. You look at what went on with obamacare and whats currently going on. Its a catastrophe. Wait until you see what happens in 16 when obamacare really kicks. In take a look at the web site. 5 billiondollar web site that still doesnt work. Look at all the mistakes made in government. There is just no confidence. The people dont have confidence inbama or in government. Is it the size of the government or is the president not doing his job its not the size, its the decision making. I go back to the interview with leon panetta. He says that he relies the president relies on the logic of a law professor rather than the passion of a leader. Well, its a rough statement. Is he very rough. I have seen excerpts from the look and what he had to say and i was surprised that he said it they seem to have gotten along very well. While he was there, he wasnt an original obama person but they certainly seemed to have gotten along well. Its catastrophic. I mean, what he is saying really is that we have a leader that doesnt know what he is doing. Essentially he says that and he said it loud and clear. Is it that you disagree with the president or the president makes different decisions or you think the president doesnt know what he is doing . Well, i disagree with so many Different Things that the president has done. You look at his relationship with israel which is in at that time teres. Obamacare. Not stopping the flights coming from west africa. To me thats an easy decision. There are so many things that i disagree with. Now, i do call it a disagreement or do i say he is wrong . I say he is he totally wrong. Is he incompetent . I dont know if he is incompetent. But certainly he is wrong. Key turn it around . Because the poll numbers show that the American People are losing confidence with him. He came in with wind behind his back. Everyone was polling for him. All of the democrats, of course. And all the democrats and many republicans they want to see him succeed. Not all of them many of them did. I would like to see him succeed as an american. Think its hard for him to turn it around. Is it impossible . Nothing is impossible. Maybe something miraculous happens. Do you see any sort of interest does he have interest in the job like he wants to turn it around . Is he phoning it in up against republicans or what . I have been watching him and he really looks tired he looks disjointed mntlely like he is not into it. We had a young man whose head was cut off and he gave a News Conference and he had a shirt on where he takes the jacket off and goes right out and plays golf. You wouldnt think that that is something thats not something a pr person say thats not a good time for you to be playing golf. That was just bad. It just looks to me like he is tired of the position. I may be wrong, i hope im wrong. He has got two more years as president to. Take all these vacations and all the fundraisers and, on our dime. I always thought when president clinton was president , even though he certainly had his it was a rocky road for him in many instances, i always thought he loved the job. He loved the job. Do you have the sense that president obama loves this job . No. I dont think he likes the job at all. I think he is looking forward to being freed. I think he is looking forward to getting out of it. It just seems that he doesnt. You are right. Bill clinton loved what he was doing and so do others you . Have to love it you are not going to do well unless you love it he loved it, others like it. I dont think he likes it and he certainly doesnt do it well. Donald, always nice to see you. Thank you. The full interview with donald trump on gretawire. Com. It will be posted there. And if you think isis isnt making big recruitments right here in the u. S. , then think again right now a teenager from illinois busted accused of trying to join istles the fbi nabbing the 19yearold on his way to turkey. Garrett tenney is live from chicago. Whats the latest on this arrest . Greta, this teenager who is an american citizen, told investigators that he wanted to leave the u. S. And never return. In the criminal complaint tawas filed today, the suspect mohammed ham zi khan. It says he planned to join isis by traveling across turkey to the syrian border. And then with the help of a turkish contact he had been introduced too online he would join the terrorist group. Austrian airlines notified the fbi of khans itinerary purchased just a week before his trip and had him staying in turkey less than three days before returning to the u. S. While the teen was being questioned at the airport the fbi executed a search warrant at his home. They found handwritten notes expressing support for isis and drawings of armed fighters surrounded by the phrase come to jihad in arabic. He also left a letter for his parents asking them not to contact the authorities about his trip and inviting them to join him in isis controlled territory where he said he felt obligated to migrate to after waving his miranda rights the 19yearold he told agents he expected his role within the terrorist group to be in a Public Service capacity doing humanitarian work or possibly in combat. Is he now facing up to 15 years in prison. And a 250,000 fine. He will be back in court again on thursday greta . Thank you. Former via director leen panetta is blasting the president. He is warning america could be at war with isis for 30 years. Trust think. How old will you be in 30 years . If they establish a base of operations in that part of the world. Only a point in time they will use it to attack this country . I think we are looking at kind of a 30 year war kind of history here itsing about it going to take a long time to go after these elements. Secretary panetta blaming president obamas policy making him the battle against emerging threats more difficult. General bob scales joins us. Evening, sir. Hi, greta. Having the former defense secretary come out with his blistering analysis or criticism of the president is how big is that . Its huge. I mean two of the best war leaders this country has ever had in the contemporary era are bob gates and leon panetta. One republican, one democrat. Each in their own way using their own desks to not only accuse the administration for slow rolling this campaign, but also making huge strategic mistakes by pulling out of iraq three and a half years ago. But, general, it isnt just making a mistake of pulling out. He actually writes in his book, he says part of it said by not pressing the Iraqi Government, this is a report about it in the the washington post. By not pressing the Iraqi Government to leave more u. S. Troops in the country. He created a vacuum in terms of the ability of the country to better protect et ceteraself. And its out of that vacuum that isis began to breed. Thats what leon panetta told u. S. A. Today. He clearly puts the lack of status of forces agreement right in president obamas lap. Not about the 11,000 thousand. What are. Shape the policy and to back stop the army. You pull those soldiers out as you say you create a vacuum and anyone who studied military history knows that when you create a strategic vacuum, guess what . Somebody fills it and in this case isis fills it, so its not about the numbers. Its about presence on the ground by american soldiers in iraq. If were going to be there another 30 years and if the reason were likely be there another 30 years is because we didnt leave forces there and if the reason we didnt leave forces there is because we didnt have a status of forces agreement, and if the reason we didnt have a status of forces agreement is because the president didnt do that even though his secretary of defense thought we should get one, that certainly sounds like its the president s fault. I dont think there is any question. The people i talked to at the pentagon, the people i talk to will tell me time and time again really the president doesnt want to do this. He doesnt want to prosecute a campaign. Heck, he hasnt even named the campaign yet, greta. So, i mean, what sort of lack of resolve does that demonstrate . Let me ask you about that because the Ebola Campaign where we sent our military there, they have actually i think its called Operation United sisters or something similar to that. Right. What do we make of the fact that that gets named. Whats the significance of the fact that the military operation and iraq and syria is not named. Holy smoke iraqi freedom. Just cause. Roll off the lips of iraqi soldiers. It defines the campaign and tells the American People that the American Military is going into action is part of a military force to defeat the enemy. If you dont give it a name, that means that in the eyes of the administration, it doesnt deserve even enough credit to have a title. Thats, to me, astounding. So it actually does make a difference . I didnt serve in the military as everybody well knows. Not having a name is of some significance to the military . Oh, yeah. Look, ask a young soldier where you serve. They dont say iraq or afghanistan. They served in oif or oef or i served in just cause or i served in desert storm. This is all part of the American Military ethios to have unnamed nameless Campaign Going on for two and a half months says a lot about the resolve or for that matter the interest of this administration in beating isis. I just dont see the enthusiasm, greta. General, thank you. Thanks, greta. As we have noted former defense secretary leon panetta really scaring Many Americans because is he warning them that his former boss, president obama has, quote lost his way. Karl rove joins us. Good evening, karl. Good evening, greta. Karl, i guess if leon panetta were a republican, you know, that might give us people would be saying that he wrote this because he is republican. This is a loyal democrat who served the president and now. This. More important than that he is a patriot. Age of 70. Central intelligence and then secretary of defense during a time of war and Vice President bidens dismissive comments. I saw the comments by the states woman. He deserves greater respect than that he has told the truth here, a painful truth but i hope president obama is listening. He has time to change. It was a powerful critique from secretary panetta. You know, there has been a lot of focus, of course, the terrorism aspect and also iraq because its former secretary of defense, former director of the cia. What he also writes, he says obama, meaning the president , has a frustrating let sense to engage his opponents and rally support for his cause, which, to me, when i read that is sort of an explanation why he has no relationship with capitol hill. If it sort of carries over, if he doesnt want to engage if he doesnt want to engage political opponents. Yeah, look, there are two sets of critiques in panettas book. The excerpts that you get from the excerpts. One is on issues. Is he critical of not getting status of forces agreement. And, therein thereby, creating a vacuum in iraq. He talks about the president s opposition to arming the rebels in syria in 2012 when we had a chance to effect the outcome. He talks about the red line, about how president obama said if assad uses chemical weapons thats a red line, and the failure to act when he he did use them undercut american credibility. And he also talks about bergdahl. Exchange of taliban prisoners for bergdahl was a bad deal. The second range of critiques are over the president s mode of operation. You touched on one of them. You said he avoids battles, that he is discouraged by conflict and retreats from making decisions, that he complains, that he misses opportunities, and there is also a very heavy critique in here of the president s decisionmaking as being too heavily influenced by the political people inside the white house. And i suspect this is the one thing that probably concerns panetta most of all, having been a white house chief of staff he knows that you should to the greatest extent possible push the Political Considerations to the fridge of things. Most importantly when it comes to questions of national security. Here we have a strong impression that they are right at the center of things, particularly in the runup to have the 2012 president ial election. As we send men and women off to syria and iraq in whatever capacity, panetta also writes about the budget cuts, the sequestration, the impact on it. And he says panetta says he found himself lonely figure actively opposing the cuts. Lobbying congress on his own and making speeches about how they would Hurt National Security thereby suggesting the president wasnt in their there kicking and screaming about the budget cuss to the military and that panetta was left to do it alone. And when panetta when the white house finds out that he is in contact with members of congress, the political people in the white house chastised him for it look, you get a very strong sense that president obama from secretary panettas perspective finds it difficult to make decisions and that the only way he makes decisions is ultimately when someone who is very close to him and has a political outlook and a personal relationship, a Valerie Jarrett or a David Plouffe or a David Axelrod when they come into the oval and say mr. President we know you dont want to make this decision but here is a decision you ought to make and you ought to make it this way because it has political ramifications. Look, this is wrong. There is one other thing in here thats deeply concerning to me. He says the white house coordinated on the question of the sofa, coordinated efforts to get a status of forces agreement but never led. Let me just tell you, dealing with maliki was a difficult thing, and president george w. Bush dealt with him all of the time. And during the discussions about the status of forces agreement, president obama goes almost a year without talking to maliki. Now, think about this. Maliki is used it dealing with bush. Doesnt always like to deal with him, but bush forces him and prods him, now he is dealing with nobody in the white house of great significance and the president doesnt even bother to talk to him. Karl, thank you. Thanks, greta. There is no dispute, tears terrorists are using social media how can we use social media to get them. Just recently a taliban spokesperson gave away a secret location by using twitter. Joining us the executive director of the news web site. Good evening, sir. Good evening. How do we use social media to get isis, get these islamic extremists . What do we do . Defense intelligence agencies all intelligence agencies love social media, right . This is open Source Information thats out there for them to see. They think twitter and facebook are are wonderful things, as long as the terrorists keep using them. So, but this i mean, there are a couple ways, one is twitter that you mistakenly note your location, right . Right, right. You know, it doesnt take a genius to learn how to turn it off it was on. We found out from a taliban spokesman. He had his city for everyone to see. They are using it for recruitment and also to threaten our military families recently or the relatives, what can we do to block their efforts to use it . I mean, what can we do to sort of stimy them . There are two things going on there is a lot of pressure on youtube and facebook to not show these things, especially things like the beheading of journalists, right in the beheadings are rejected try not to encourage that from being put out. At the same time, like i said, intelligence agencies and also the industry right now are coming up with all sorts of complex algorithms to use this terrorism, map the networks of whom is talking to whom and where they are located down to the cell phone tower. So its valuable information that, you know, our intelligence agencies and military, they dont want to completely gone. We cant underestimate the impact of the social media. If you think about it is that in january, not to hit the president over the head with this again, but that he referred to isis as jay we and there jv. Nothing done between january and august. Beheadings of two americans. Suddenly that put on the internet. That social media did shape Foreign Policy because we are over there with air strikes. Right. Well, there is a sentence in sense in the pentagon that it took those beheadings to really change the president s mind, to change the countrys policy and bring this country into the war that it has been resisting going into. Not just the president. The congress resisted going into war last year. Republicans in congress as well. The difference really was those two videos. Big enough to be on cable tv b

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