Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Suster

FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren October 7, 2014 23:00:00

Much fnc is a family in a lot of ways. People in front of the camera and behind the camera have been here. Thank you for inviting us into your home. This is the fox news alert. Do you know who this is . Look closely. Right now, the u. S. Government is pleading for your help. The fbi asking for the publics help to identify this masked man in an isis propaganda individual kbr video released last month online. The fbi is asking for your help to identify isis fighters. Meanwhile, grave fear tonight that a syrian town is about to fall to isis. Our reporter joins us live from the border. What is going on at the border . Okay. The latest that i can tell you from the border is the following. Today there was Less Shooting inside the city. The clashes were less intense than yesterday. And the only reason that this is happening is because Coalition Planes are flying over kobani since 4 00 a. M. In the morning. I, myself, am standing around 500 meters away from the border. I could see kobani right in front of me and i was able to spot five Coalition Air strikes. These air strikes are massive, you know, plumes of smoke mainly on the eastern side of the city on the eastern side of the city and on the southern western side of the city. And the situation inside means these Coalition Air strikes were able, according to people inside kobani, were able to stop the advance of isis, you know. So the isis fighters have stuck now at a certain point and they are not Going Forward anymore. I was just speaking to a source inside kobani and he told me that the moment these isis fighters hear Coalition Planes, even if they only hear the planes, they dont have to bomb, they go into hiding and basically they will not be able to move anymore. Are there isis flags or kurdish flags or what kind of flags . Reporter these are the Coalition Planes. No. Flags. Whose got control of the flags . Reporter if we speak about the eastern side, i can see two eastern flags flying on the eastern side of kobani. You have one flag standing on a sandy hill. And yesterday i was even able to see five isis fighters on that hill just hanging out there, just sitting there, you know. And there is another flag also in that part of town. The center of town is still under the hands of Kurdish Forces and through my binoculars i was able to see a flag of the kurdish sources there and im curious, is the turkish fighters at the syrian side of the border . Reporter they have tanks there and a lot of riot police, almost every day riots between the Turkish Police and those standing on the turkish side of the border but the turkish tanks are standing with their banks to kobani and their face towards turkey. They are not pointing at syria. Jenan, thank you for joining us. The Syrian Border town could fall to isis. Does the u. S. Need to do more . Representative Duncan Hunter joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening. Isis is at least running from the air strikes but i certainly see that isis has the flag up. It seems that isis is expanding. Are we doing enough with the air strikes . Yeah, we are. But you have to look at this in the sense of what are we protecting ourselves from. If you want to protect americans from isis, you secure them from the southern border. They dont have a navy, air force, nuclear weapons. The only way that isis is going to harm americans is by coming in through the southern border, which they already have. Are you talking about our the southern border of the u. S. Southern border is the only way that americans get harmed by isis. Thats it. Thats the only way that they can touch us here. If youre talking about getting rid of evil and smashing them over there, what were doing would be enough if our nato ally of turkey would actually do something about this instead of helping isis. Like she said, the turkish tanks are facing away from the enemy. Turkey is helping isis get rid of their longstanding enemy kurdistan. When they give them weapons, ammunition and food and supplies, turkey is helping isis. Its going to be really hard for the kurds to stand if two things dont happen. Turkey doesnt act like the ally that it is supposed to be, number one, and number two, we should be giving massive heavy weapons to those kurds that are fighting to the peshmerga so they can take down isis themselves. I have they just need the weaponry and baghdad is keeping that out of kurdish hands. If they have the heavy weaponry, if youre talking about americans, isis is coming across the southern border. Hold on. Stop for one second. They are going to be bombing American Cities coming across from mexico. Let me ask a question. You say that they are coming in the southern border, which is changes all the dine maynamics. Do you have any information that they are coming in through the southern border now . Yes. Tell me what you know. At least ten isis fighters have been caught coming across the border in texas. How do you know that . Because ive asked the Border Patrol, greta. And the Border Patrol just lets isis members come across the border . No. They caught them at the border. Therefore, we know that isis is coming across the border. If they catch five or ten of them, you know that there are going to be dozens more that did not get caught by the Border Patrol. Thats how you know. Thats where we are at risk here, is from isis and radical islamists coming across the border. Once again, they dont have a navy, air force, nuclear weapons. The only way that americans are going to be harmed by radical islam chairman dempsey said the same thing. He said thats where the major threat is here, thats how these g guys are going to infiltrate through america and harm americans. Congressman, thank you. Thank you. Now to terror raids in london. Police arresting four men. Amy kellogg is live. Amy . Reporter greta, the metropolitan Police Commissio r commissioner, the head of scotland yard, has not said directly that this has a link to isis but hes hinted strongly that thats the case. He said that, quote, the drumbeat around terrorism has become more intense in the last few weeks and there is a strong link to iraq and syria and this case could fit into that category. So not many details but definitely were understanding that this is somewhat different from what weve seen before. Meanwhile, the terror arrests in london have increased fivefold in the last year alone. Just recently we saw cleric arrested with eight other men. Hes been released on bail since they be. That had more to do with individuals being part of organizations or spreading terrorist propaganda. We know that 500 british men are thought to have traveled to syria and fight with isis and some of them have come back and reportedly half of those who traveled to syria were not even known as terrorists to the government before. In other words, they were not on intelligences radar screen. Prime minister cameron is fighting isis on two fronts. Hes trying to keep young brits from going over to iraq and syria to fight and has vowed to take away passports from anyone who has such a plan and hes also trying to stop homegrown extremists. If the conservative Party Returns to power next year, she wants the next parliament to pass legislation to gag known extremists. Of course, scotland yards, particularly cyber unit has shut down 45,000 extremists. Amy, thank you. And in iraq, isis is using a new weapon. Water. Isis is viciously cutting off water to villages that dare to resist isis rule. Thats not all. Isis is trying to expand its control over iraqs dams. Joining me is john. Nice to see you, sir. Good evening, greta. Good evening, sir. So how does isis use water as a weapon . How, specifically . Well, specifically, iraq is very dependent upon the nearly 100 on the flows of the flow of the river for their irrigation supplies, water, industrial uses and also power, both hydroelectric and power generation. While isis doesnt control the dams, they have ample opportunity to create problems for iraq as a country and especially for the localities where they are diverted the flow of water. The mosul dam was what we were worried about isil taking control and now that has gone back to the iraqis. But is there something these two rivers, the euphrates flow through iraq. Is thering in that they can do to that water to poison it downstream to baghdad and other areas . Theres many diversion points along the tigris before it gets to baghdad. One in particular at samara, they have the opportunity to divert much of the flow into a major canal and ultimately into a large lake or depression called tartar where water could be stored. Their storage capacity, they could divert the flow of the tigris for literally months at a time. So theres very real threats to iraqs water supply. You know, its so painful to think that anybody could be that cruel, especially in a country where in iraq its not had quite the amount of rainfall and its so incredible that they would do anything to threaten these villages what dare to resist them and threaten their water supply. Its astounding, isnt it . Well, it is astounding when you think about it but when you think of the atrocities that isis has already committed against individuals across iraq, i guess it isnt so surprising. But they have certainly, you know, already shown that they will divert water in attempts to cut off water to surgeon areas in iraq and also flood agricultural areas in and around baghdad. John, thank you for joining us. Youre very welcome. And Vice President joe bidens apology tour continues. Next stop, saudi arabia. Hes apologized to turkey and the united arab emirates. This comes after he said that the mideast allies are partly to blame for isis. What were they doing . They were so determined to take on assad and essentially have a proxy sunni shia war. What did they do . They poured hundreds of millions of dollars in tens and thousands of weapons into anyone who would fight against assad except that the people who would be supplied were al nusra and al qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world. And late today, the Vice President apologizing to saudi arabias foreign minister. He is joining us. Good evening. Good evening. First of all, as the Vice President apologized to the saudi arabians, was he wrong . And also supplying tens of weapons . Well, part of what he says is correct. I think that the saudis and others made a mistake in thinking that they could arm the Opposition Forces in syria and keep them under control and obviously that notion has failed, as we can see from the successes that isis has had. And i think that the Vice President s guilty of the ultimate washington gaffe, which is telling the truth in part, and thats why hes had to apologize. I think the real problem here is the disarray that this shows at the top of the administration, a president whos detached, off doing fundraising, a Vice President who cant keep to the script, a former secretary of defense for the administration deeply critical of the administration. I think our friends and allies have to be scratching their heads saying, whos in charge here . Let me ask you about another apology he made to turkey, that essentially turkey was allowing jihadis to cross the border and no sooner did he say that people were up in arms and then apologized to turkey. Was that an incorrect statement that turkey is basically looking the other way and allowing ji d jihadists to cross into syria . No. There i think the Vice President was correct. He characterized a conversation with president erdogan saying that we made a mistake allowing these radicals to come through and erdogan said that and i would never say anything critical of the president of turkey but Vice President biden was probably accurate about the characterization of the conversation. So why the apology . I mean, if Vice President biden was correct about saudi arabia and about turkey, stated the truth, as you say, a washington gaffe to tell the truth, why apologize . Whats the reason . Because it was a foolish thing to do in the circumstances. As bad as turkeys conduct has been and as bad as saudi arabias conduct has been, if we have any hope of carrying out the president s stated objective of destroying isis, we need them in the fight. And what this shows is that it goes to the point about disarray in the administration. What you say publicly true or not true about an ally ought to be part of an overall strategy. And biden, i think, was guilty of acting again, as he often does like a senator instead of like Vice President of the United States. So this confusion, this lack of strategy, i think it gives the people who ought to be our friends grave discomfort. Lets step back for a second and think about it. Calling our allies out on things when they do wrong. Frankly, if i look back at history, many would say that people called Ronald Reagan out. At some point, isnt it sometimes effective to take on our allies that are making blunders . Letting jihadists into syria to fight the fight with isis, its not as destructive of fighting isis. Whether you criticize an ally publicly, in private, whatever you do ought to be part of a strategy. Theres nothing wrong to speaking privately or publicly but you ought to think through why you are doing it and what the implications are and whether it achieves your overall objectives and i think here we have a case for biden, for whatever reason and im no shrink, but for whatever reason just sort of wandering around describing the conduct of our allies, its not helpful. If our objective is to get turkey to step it up and block that border, thats our objective. How do you achieve that . Well, i think that goes to the question whether it makes sense to pummel erdogan in public. Im certainly no admirer of his. I think hes taking turkey in the direction that is contrast to the United States. But do we get biden criticizing the turks in public or twist their arm in private . I guess i am making the assumption that we tried the arm twisting in private. I assume we already tried that one. Well, maybe we did and maybe this is part of a strategy and maybe its part of a grand design that the president has cooked up between fundraisers. But honestly, i have to say, it sounds like joe biden for getting hes Vice President and thinking hes back in the senate. If we havent been trying behind the scenes, we have bigger problems than we might have realized. Ambassador, thank you. Straight ahead, the desperate fight against another enemy, ebola. Two american hospitals desperately are trying to treat very sick ebola patients. Plus, Texas Governor rick perry goes on the record. Ebola has hit his state. Thats next. And then leon panetta, a fellow democrat, slamming president only saying the president s red line statement put our nations credibility on the line. Thats coming up. 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His name is george mason, the senior baptist of Wilshire Baptist church. Ive been in phone contact with her pretty much every day since i learned about this connection and ourhas been very in various ways, certainly through prayer, holding her up in that way, writing notes that i was finally yesterday able to deliver to her because i did get to go and see her and three boys who were in quarantine yesterday. Tell me about that. How was she . How were you able to be in contact with her and what did she say . Well, i was not in direct contact. I did keep direct distance. Even though i dont think thats really necessary, but just as an excess of caution, we didnt touch. We simply sat together and she and the three boys that are there with her, one of them being her 13yearold son, another nephew and a friend. They are holding up okay. They are relying on their faith and that was very evident in our time of prayer together and quoting the 23rd psalm and she said that shes managing okay, shes grateful to this country a

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