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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren November 21, 2014

Instead of the rule of law handling in our country today, now we are starting to have the rule of rulers. Thats a total an tis sis on what our country was founded on. This is historic. We are going to it shoot the constitution full of holes tonight. What the president is doing is completely inconstitutional. He doesnt have that authority. Im the president of the United States. Im not the emperor of the United States. Look to ronald reagan, your hero, look what he did. There is going to be a severe injury to our country tonight. We cant sit idlely by. The president just feels like he has to act. I waited long enough. Well, thats what assess in a banana republic. This is constitutional vandalism. This is a big deal. And we are going to take you live to the white house and live to capitol hill for the very latest. First, representative jason chaffets, the incoming House Oversight chairman joins us. Nice to see you sir. Good to be here. Congratulations on your soonton chairmanship of House Oversight. Thank you, its a big honor. Tonight the president is going to speak on executive order o. Your view . Terribly disappointing when i first got elected in 2008 i actually asked for and was on the immigration subcommittee. The democrats who had the house, the senate, and the presidency, they had all the levers of power in washington, d. C. What did they do on immigration . Nothing. They brought stephen colbert, one of the funniest americans out there they brought stephen colberert in front of that committee. They never did anything. Six years this president never did anything. To sour the pot going into new congress is a distraction. Its not right for this country. It sends all wrong messages. And instead of working together with us. Is he doing this. And its just. The Senate Passed a bill some time ago, more than a year ago, and the house never took up that immigration bill . Why not . They never actually sent it to us in the senate. Remember it was my bill in the 112 bill sent to the senate. I think republicans did a terrible job not talking about it. Dealt with high skilled immigrants. Dealt with familybased visas. We need to tackle these issues one at a time. You are telling me the senate bill never its way from the u. S. Senate to the u. S. House of representatives. They never sent it over it had a blue slip problem. Funding problems with it. Nevertheless, there are those of us that believe we have to tackle and fix legal immigration. But this is not the way to do it. You are creating this amnesty for these people and its making it more painful to go through the legal lawful way and it just sours the pot for actually going to meaningful Immigration Reform through the proper channels. Why is the the president doing this and why tonight . Because he just got slaughtered in an election. Its crystal clear. Its all about politics. The American People want us to be working together. I disagree with the president pretty much everything. But there are things we can probably come together and do to fix legal immigration. That should be the mantra. But thats not what this president wants. We want to put American People back to work. Do you think this is going to help do that . No, its not. What are republicans going to do. There is a lot of Different Things we can do in terms of power of the purse. There are legal channels and things we can pursue. We have got to be careful not to socalled take the bait here and try to get into this scuffle that is a distraction from doing all the things we want to do and were elected to do in this upcoming 114th election. We have got it to pursue them all and do it as swiftly as possible. Give me a tease. What do you do as chairman of House Oversight . Waste, fraud, and abuse. We are going to get after that expose sunlight on the problems that are out there. And pursue other things that darryl isis started in terms of the irs and fast and furious and trey gowdy is handing the Benghazi Select Committee there are a lot of ongoing investigations there are things that we have been working on for a year that you havent heard about and come back and talk about. Im curious in terms of this Jonathan Gruber, is there is that going to be part of your oversight . Have you thought about that . Will he be summoned to testify about obamacare . Its definitely in the realm of possibilities. Other chairman like paul ryan in ways and means and others i need to coordinate with so that we are attacking this properly. But you cant have somebody that outrageous making those types of statements and expect that congress is just going to ignore it somebody is going to take that on. It might be our committee. It might be another. Congressman, nice to he see you, sir. Thank you, greta. Next time i assume be calling you mr. Chairman. Call me jason, please. Thank you, sir. Fox white house chief correspondent ed henry is at the white house where right now president obama is getting readytoa threats nation. Ed, what can we expect . Greta, good to see you. Putting the final touches on it as we speak. Bottom line is they have just released some excerpts of what the president is going to say. Why that is significant is it gives you a taste of what the president wants to exercise. Doesnt give you the other side but what is he is going to do. Two points is he emphasizing that executive action has been taken by republican president s before him. We have heard this talking point from the white house before. I think the challenge for him tonight is, yes, other president s have taken executive action on immigration but not to this extent. Not protecting up to 5 million Illegal Immigrants and giving them some legal status to stay in the country. That will be an uphill battle for him. Seconds release and excerpt they put out is the president saying that this is not amnesty because the real amnesty, he will say, based on this excerpt tonight, is that to leave the current broken system in place. The president saying look you have all these Illegal Immigrants. They are in the shadow. They are not paying taxes if you get them out of the shadows they will actually pay in the system and become hard working taxpayers that are part of society. Again, of the challenge for the president though is that may make sense but the fact that he is doing it and going it alone might poison the well before the new congress has even taken, you know, hold and been sworn in just yet. Thats why im told tonight the president this is just the beginning, greta. This is going to be the first speech. To las vegas tomorrow to begin selling this and his aides telling me will be hitting the roads in the weeks ahead trying to sell this policy. Thats why it tells me they know its uphill battle. When does it actually get signed . Tonight or tomorrow . Good question because the indications we he have gotten is that he is probably going to sign it in las vegas tomorrow. Is he going to be going to a school where he had given a big speech a couple years ago laying out what he wanted from congress. Is he is going to stay tomorrow, of course, i didnt get it so thats why congress didnt act im moving forward. He is not signing executive orders, were told. They are president ial memos. Maybe just a technicality the reason why that is significant is it is not an actual executive order as has been first alert forecast memos to Homeland Security secretary jay johnson, for example, saying you need to show more discretion with the Border Patrol agents. They shouldnt be chasing Illegal Immigrants that have parking tickets. Chase down Illegal Immigrants and make the border more secure by going after Illegal Immigrants who are parts of gangs or terror suspects. Obviously they should have been doing that before. One of the questions from congress in the days ahead is why did the president have to put a memo out telling the Border Patrol to focus more on hardened criminals who are Illegal Immigrants instead of others, greta. That will be one of the questions. Ed, thank you, we will be waiting to see what the president says. Republican lawmakers though are furious tonight, vowing to fight back against the president going alone and using executive action or president ial memos. Fox news chief Congressional Correspondent mike emanuel continues our coverage live from capitol hill. Mike . Greta, leading republicans and some others here on capitol hill are critical, saying instead of working together, president obama is going it alone. House Speaker John Boehner says that is not the way our democracy works. Boehner notes the president says he is not king or emperor but says mr. Obama is sure acting like one. And the speaker says the American People want nothing more than for elected officials to work together. Senate republican leader Mitch Mcconnell says the president s action would reject the voice of the voters and wouldnt pose new unfairness on law abiding immigrants without solving the problem. In fact, mcconnell says this executive action is more likely to make the problem even worse. The man who will be the new majority leader in a new congress is promising congress will act likely a lawsuit or trying to find a way to restrict funding. Its not just republicans who are criticizing the executive action. West virginia democrat joe manchin says he disagrees with the president s decision to use executive action. Manchin says he also disagrees with the house, not even giving a vote on the Bipartisan Senate bill overwhelmingly passed in june 2013. Expect more reaction from house Speaker John Boehner. Is he due to address reporters. First thing in the morning. Greta . Mike, thank you. And republican lawmakers not the only one blasting the president s executive action. A california sheriff has also a strong message for president obama. He posted it it online and now his message is going viral. It is your singular failure alone as to we do not yet have reform. Why america continues to be at risk and new crimes and new victims are mounting each and every day in every single state. And joining us our Political Panel the weekly standards john mccormick, the Washington Examiner Susan Ferrechio and Washington Times stephan diane. We have not executive orders. They are calling them president ial memos. Thats what ed says. Right. Thats exactly what he did in 2012 when the policy for dreamers, the coca ordered Homeland Security to take these steps. Look, most of these Illegal Immigrants we are talking about here, they were never in danger of deportation under the president s previous policies, the socalled morton memo that dhs issued back in 2011, i believe. What the key about what is happening tonight is the president is going to give up to about a million work permits. Really the extra benefit and the Work Authorization that they get thats the real change here in policy. Part of that is allowing them to pay taxes. Also allows them to legally compete with native born workers for some of those jobs. Susan, it seems like a lot of this is politics. I mean, maybe more sure. I dont know what else to make of this one tonight. Asking for air time. And his going to hit his target audience is going to air during the latin grammies. He is going to it hit home with the people he is trying to show that he is doing something on immigration. They were very disappointed they didnt goat take action before the election. Of course its politics. I think the timing is very political. He is doing this now before the congress has passed a resolution to keep the government funded through the end of the year. I think thats going to keep republicans fighting amongst themselves, thats a winwin for democrats. He could have waited there is no harm in waiting another few weeks until after they passed this resolution to fund the government. He is doing it now and doing it in a way that is only going to incite a lot of anger and i think its true. It will make it harder for a much larger comprehensive bill eventually to pass through congress either in partly sunny pieces or one big bill. The Biggest Issue here is not how you feel about immigration but how you feel about the rule of law and constitution. President obama himself, by his own words, is he doing something that is unconstitutional just in 2013 he said he would use his Administrative Authority as far as he could go. He would stretch it out. You know, i cant do things like that because im not a king. When you hear republicans saying the things that president is acting like a an emperor and i cant be a king. He they go back and quote him about the argument he made about what he is doing. He seems to have discretion over who is going to be depoor thed and not. Thats prosecutorial discretion. If he is giving them work papers. Thats taking it a step farther. Isnt that where the line is drawn right there . Thats not thats more of a legislative function. That is where the line is drawn. Thats where things have been less clear. Stephan illuminated it all very nicely. Now we finally get it. These people, the argue. Is that many of these folks are not being deported. However, if you talk to legislation advocates they would say deportation its are happening and families are being separated. There is an argument on the other side of that a the love the argument is about now they are going to be able to work and be part of our workforce. Panel, as we stand by we are waiting for the president. Lets talk about one other topic and thats making a big political punch. Obama architect Jonathan Gruber calling americans stupid oer and over and over again. Call it the stupidity of the American Voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass. Americans are too stupid not to. Very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American Voter. But i would rather have this law than not. And the gruber controversy already heating up and spreading now to louisiana tight senate race. Now, Freedom Partners Action Fund releasing an ad tieing democratic senator Mary Landrieu to it gruber. Senator Mary Landrieu sold obama to us the washington way, with false promises and deception. And obamacares chief actor tech admits it. Lack of transparency, the stupidity of the American Voter. That was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. John, first to you i should point out that senator Mary Landrieu a year ago released a bill to ensure if you life your healthcare you can keep it. She tried to she has tried to but now she is getting tied to it. She has tried to. Why didnt she try to do it before it became law. If this was so important. She didnt read it, nobody did. Senate floor she said the exact same thing the president did. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. Now she is down 11 points, 16 points, depending what poll you look at. I think she should have thought about these things before the law passed and not after. I mean, i wish somebody, stephan, had read this bill before it passed. Gosh, i remember writing a story. The republicans actually the day that the bill was passing they had a stack of the bill every single one of their tables there. Colleagues, sure enough we went ahead in the senate and passed it on christmas eve. I was there covering it and it was sort of surreal and we are now stuck with all of the details in it. Whats in it yet. Still very complex. I mentioned on this show before, which is that Jonathan Gruber didnt just dupe the public. He did also dupe lawmakers. They look to at him as the goto guy on, this expert on this. Wait a second, they had so much responsibility lawmakers,. Im not saying they not. But they rely upon these strategists these consultants to sell the legislation. Why if they are not going it read anything,. They sell it to the lawmakers. Thats why they bring them into the conferences and say hey listen to this expert. This is how the law is going to work. Nothing he is saying is any different from what we already knew about the law. Yes they gimmicked it in order to get it through the cbo. Yes, they had to make certain claims we knew wouldnt pan out in order for voters not to repel against it i dont think anything he said is particularly surprising to us. What is surprising is he is admitting yeah we pulled the war over to get it done. They knew it was a tax. Well, the people who voted, they lost their jobs. A lot of democrats in 2010, obviously 2014. Landrieu down double digits already. Panel, thank you. Listen to, this senator john mccain who knows the war up close president obamas isis strategy reminds him of vietnam. Senator mccain goes on the record next. How much more can we take . And its only november. A blizzard, more snow on the way. And then no sooner will that stop, we have another huge problem. Flood. The Weather Threat is pummeling the nation. Rick reichmuth tracks the winter storms. Breaking news tonight. We are about 40 minutes out. President obama is about to address the nation. He will announce his president ial memo or executive action. However you want to characterize it on immigration that is setting many on fire. Our live coverage continues coming up. Thank you for being my hero and my dad. Military families a

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