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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren January 13, 2015
Isis while declaring a cyber caliphate it reaccept nels a recent attack on a newspaper in albuquerque leading to some suspicions among defense officials that the attack may be domestic. The fbi is now investigating. In a statement tonight centcom described the attack as cyber vandalism adding it did not breech any operational military
Network Despite
claims by the hackers to have accessed personal computers on u. S. Military bases around the world. U. S. Central command issued the following statement from
Tampa Florida
quote. Our initial assessment is that no classified information was posted and that none of the information posted came from centcoms server or social media site. The most worrying site involved the posting of the physical and email addresses, phone numbers and partial
Social Security
numbers of the u. S. Armys top commanders, centcom said it is notifying the aappropriate dod and
Law Enforcement
authorities about the potential release of personal information. And will take aappropriate steps to ensure any individuals potentially affected are notified as quickly as possible. Centcoms youtube site was compromised at the same time. The hackers posted proisis propaganda videos showing firesry scenes of isis training. Among the other threatening tweets the hackers warned northwestern soldiers, we are coming watch your lack. They went on to say they know where their spouses and children are greta. As president obama talks about
Cyber Security
hackers take over central commands twitter page. We are coming watch your back. That message left today on the twitter feed for u. S. Central command. Most disturbing with were the personal details that the hackers published of u. S. Army commanders. We are still examining and investigating the extent of this incident. How vulnerable are we to a cyber pearl harbor . Cyber can be incredibly destructive it can be disruptive. It can disrupt and it can destroy. Pretty significant difference weep what is a large data breach and the hacking of a twitter account. One of the tweets said isis is already here. We are in your pcs in each military base. And the news of isis infiltrating u. S. Military computer accounts sending shock waves into the
Defense Department
across washington and all of america. Does the most powerful military in the world let this happen . Congress joins us. Good evening, sir. Good to be with you greta. Youtube account and twitter account anding that that nothing classified was accessed by anybody. What i dont figure out then is how do they get the personnel details about the military. Taps little bit beyond twitter and youtube there is a little bit more to this story. I have friends mail all the time saying if you received this email from me i was hacked. Someone stole my password, whatever. I get that all the time from people. On twitter on facebook own youtube accounts. The worst part of this whole thing is the propaganda part of this. Thats the worse part. Thats the only part that hurts american interests is because to the folks that dont have computers, a lot of them in the middle east, this is going to look like a big deal where they can go home and say we hacked the department of defense. When, in reality, they did not hack the department of defense. Whoever it was hacked twitter and youtube. And thats it. Okay. So that may be, you know comforting tonight says youtube and twitter. What i still dont get and the other part is the part where
Jennifer Griffin
our pentagon correspondent is reporting that they got personal information about members in the military. And i cant imagine that they are sort of combing the
United States
for that. Where are they getting at . Greta, can you get that anywhere. Can you get that in a whole lot of places that are not secret. That dont have a lot of
Cyber Security
fences around them. You can find information just about anybody if you look hard enough and there is always areas that dont have those security fences up. Cyber wise. So thats where you go find that information. It could have been on a military payment web site. They could have somebody in the military that has access those to that information. There is other ways to do that besides hacking dod. But if there is a military payment web site then they got into the military computer somehow to get that information, right . They probably i would guess that they have that there are folks that are bad folks, radical islamist that are probably in the military. You probably have a few of those. But i dont think anything that compromises u. S. Security was touched in this intrusion. Thats what i think. And were going to find out more as we get hearings about this on the hill. You know, i actually dont think so either. What i do think is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is a warning to all of us. Not just the military but to all of us. And, in particular we know that greta right . I know that but these guys. I dont want our military hacked. Im sorry, you know, i dont mind if somebody if someones personal account gets hacked. Not very nice. Its awful and everything else. I dont want our u. S. Military. I want them to be a little bit smarter and better than everybody else. You know, the military is getting hacked every day. We havent had any really big intrusions since snow den, that was inside job. What you have and this also could have been a lot of different other hacking groups that helped on this too. It might not have been somebody from syria, right . Indeed it might not have. We havent gotten to the bottom of it congressman thank you for joining us. Thank you. Just yesterday a frightening warning from general martin dempsy. He warned if wages cyber war we dont have the upper hand it . Can be disruptive it can disrupt and it can destroy. And it can destroy hardware. It can disable
Critical Infrastructure
which could lead to loss of life. And i think those capabilities are out there. And, you know we have, in every domain, chris we generally enjoy a significant military advantage. But we have pier competitors in cyber. In other words, we dont have an advantage over that . We dont have an advantage. Its a level playing field. That makes this chairman uncomfortable. Why are we not ready. How devastating can this be . David, should is this the tip of the iceberg . Is this a warning or no big deal . Its the tip of the iceberg. Its not think. We have been warning about this for a number of years in the security industry. Have you had big players like russia and china where they have hacked into us for more military preparedness. Terror groups are campaigning for folks that have good expertise when it comes to security and hacking and starting to go after big targets thsmght is just really starting to come to fruition. You are going to start to see a lot of these terrorist groups have a lot more capabilities than what you are seeing today and could be disastrous. Why though
Something Like
twitter and youtube . That seems rather tame. Thats annoying. Why not jump for the nuclear cyberspace bomb and do something more potent if these terrorists really want to do something . We actually had the director of the nsa come out and say our power grid has been hacked and infiltrated a number of times. Its a matter hough is actually in there. Look at the demographics of hacking. China and russia have a large hook into our infrastructure at this point in time. They are not actively going about it because it has disruptions in their own economy. When it comes to terrorists, theys just getting capabilities up and running. So the twitter and youtube attacks while possibly not sophisticated is
Huge Marketing Campaign
for folks and especially the
Younger Generation
who has hacking capabilities that may become radicalized or maybe on the jihadist web sites looking at things to help these types of initiatives to start to focus on this. It doesnt take a large group to do. This you can have a group of 10 folks take down infrastructure and grid thats how bad our security is today. What was actually hacked here . Was it the military accounts or youtube server and the twitter server so it waste wasnt really the military that was hacked. Who was hacked . What it looks like ised that the attackers were able to gain credentials to the twitter account. Same account shared
Centcom Youtube
site. Easily guess the password. What we typically find these types of social media sites are handled by marketing type folks within organizations that dont necessarily have huge security pass words. What can i say that twitter and youtube have capabilities built into them two factor authentication that would have prevented thissed in the first place. Huge
Marketing Campaign
for isis right now. And they are looking like they can hack centcom right now. Would it be easy to identify who did this. Thats the scary part. Its no longer a military war anymore. Its not like we are fighting and we know who our enemy is can i disguise myself come from north korea and china or any demographic i want to to make it look like somebody else or bounce myself around to 10 different internet cafes until somebody thinks im in a place and im some place else around the world. A different type of state where i can be anybody on the internet and you are not going to be able to find me. David, thank you. Thanks, greta. Good to see. You good to see you. Top military brass centcom twitter and youtube accounts. At this hour the military saying it appears no classified information was ax seq. Saysed to release. This infiltration at a minimum proves we are vulnerable and at a minimum is embarrassedment for military and
Obama Administration
. What message does this send to the world and boo coo this part cyber. Ambassador . I dont think its as ceasous as it is embarrassing at this point. The fact is that the twitter and union accounts of cent some ought to be on a completely different system. Than the classified military. They ought to be physically separate systems. Its possible that the
Information Technology
officers of cent some are complete idiots and they put this in a classified a
Computer System
where you could ache sets classified information. If so they should all be fired. I dont think thats what happened. Well, if there are idiots that did this. Put this there, how can we have any sense of confidence tonight that those idiots arent doing similar things . Look, we have made mistakes. Bradley manning was able to download countless classified documents from a computer that shouldnt have had that capability. The military gave him access to it. But i think even more important than finding outs what happened here. Not every cyber attack is equal to every other cyber attack. Taking down centcoms twitter account is not the same as getting the president s
Nuclear Launch
codes. Instead of this mass of
Cyber Attacks
as if they are all the same lets get a ladder of escalation like we have in the nuclear field. That makes sense. There is another thought. If this is the tip of the ice beg, for gods sake open up our eyes. This may be a good warning. Its serious. We know that the pentagon has been the target of
Cyber Efforts
from china from north korea, from russia, from iran american corporations have been as well. But the ladder of escalation is important. Vandalism. Theft, intelligence, war and terrorism. Is this vandalism just because somebody got the youtube account or is it more serious . I think the tack on sony was more serious than this. But thats my point. Lets get an understanding of what is really a vulnerability and what is an inconvenience. Are we doing it . I dont think we are. It may be in the classified world the great theory i dont see it yet. Until you get a grip on it and know what the ladder is i just think there is confusion and fear that ought to be a warning to us. But no guide for action. I have talked to people on capitol hill who are on all these intelligence committees. And they never give me any classified information. But they have scared me. They have said that there are really serious things going on out there and were not ready i dont think they are deliberately trying to scare me but i think this is serious. I think its because the thinking has not gone into what exists. Most fright thing thing is what dempsey said. Dominance in every other aspect of warfare. Were simply equal with a number of other nations and maybe terrorists around the world and cyberspace. That is a problem for the
United States
why is this embarrassing . Its the central command. All that stands between us and utter chaos in the middle east and they cant even defend their twitter account. On the other hand it, is a twitter account. Really . Its not the death star. Thats the point. But if you are going to be on twitter and you are centcom, you are the american military. You ought to think can we protect this against this kind of hacking . Its a kind of mindless rush into social media without thinking through the political implications. Thats why they are embarrassed. Is it serious militarily . I dont think so. Think its isis connection or using vandals to scare people. We dont know. Thats something we need to find out. Somebody say centcom has been hacked and next thing you know we are at death con one. Its not realistic response. What about the fact that there is information about some of the top brass . That didnt come from twit with iter or youtube. That came from some place else. Who knows where it came from. That wasnt given away. That had to be hacked some place. Central command twitter account in the classified system they are idiots. I dont think thats what they did. I hope its not. Nice to see you, ambassador. This is a fox news alert. Were getting news out of france right now. That six terrorist cell members may be on the move inside france. Amy kellogg is tracking the story from paris right now. Amy . Hi, greta. The parisians worst nightmare. Its not a surprise. We spoke to someone from the police union today who said there has to be more out there because, frankly they had money these terrorists. They had arms. They have logistics. And they had to have drivers. They had to have people helping them pull this off. In fact, greta who put together that martyrdom video of one of the terrorists and then released it yesterday. Now tonight we have a number on it police do believe at least six from that terrorist cell to be at large. Now, tricky today released some cctv footage of the boumeddiene, the widow behind the terrorist of the
Kosher Grocery
store massacre arriving at the airport january 2nd a week before the attacks in paris. Believe she did some sightseeing before needing syria. 10,000 on the streets now of french cities, most of them concentrated in paris. They are protecting sensitive sites. Its unprecedented to have such a big
Army Presence
here domestically, but with suspects still on the loose, or suspected suspects still on the loose, it makes sense. The cover of the survivors issue of
Charlie Hebdo
which is going to be out on wednesday, was revealed tonight. It pictures the
Prophet Muhammad
holding a sign je suis charlie. I am charlie. Has he a tear over his eye and over his head is written everything is forgiven. The survivors of the
Charlie Hebdo
massacre have been working in another news organization, their offices are still a crime scene and they have told people in interviews that this has been a good distraction for them. A bit from their grief. They feel they need to do this. The edition will be out greta, on wednesday. Normally
Charlie Hebdo
has 60,000 copies. This week it will have 3 million its going to be printed in 16 different languages, we are promised there will be be cartoons in it from the deceased cartoonists that have never before been released. Greta . Amy, thank you. Straight ahead, are you furious that president obama did not go to paris and march with all the others nations leaders . Did president obama not think it was important enough for him how about kerry. And how about attorney general eric holder . He was in paris and he decided to go home and skip the march. It wasnt because he the attorney general had to catch a flight. He was on a private plane, an air force plane financed by you the taxpayers. Why couldnt he stick around . So are you furious . Former congressman allen west is on the record next. Plus dramatic new video boy falls from ski lift two stories down. What happened next . More of that shocking video is just moments away. Three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad then
Liberty Mutual
calls. And you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. See
Car Insurance
in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Constipated . Yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. It has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. For gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works mmm mmm live the regular life. [container door opening] what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. Introducing the firstever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. Once you go beyond utility theres no going back. Hot heck is running the white house and who is advising president obama. Showed terrorists the world is not afraid. Where are we . Did president obama go . Nope. How about
Vice President
biden . Not a chance. How about secretary of state kerry . He is no show too. Maybe attorney general eric soldier . No. He was there but left before the march. Only one big french ally skipping out yesterday, the
United States
. Guy president obama snub the french and why wont our leaders do their job . Joining us now colonel alan west. Nice to see you, considerable. I should add that secretary kerry in his defense he was going to pakistan to answer to another terrorist herb. Your thoughts on the president not going . Well, it was an absence of leadership the
Network Despite<\/a> claims by the hackers to have accessed personal computers on u. S. Military bases around the world. U. S. Central command issued the following statement from
Tampa Florida<\/a> quote. Our initial assessment is that no classified information was posted and that none of the information posted came from centcoms server or social media site. The most worrying site involved the posting of the physical and email addresses, phone numbers and partial
Social Security<\/a> numbers of the u. S. Armys top commanders, centcom said it is notifying the aappropriate dod and
Law Enforcement<\/a> authorities about the potential release of personal information. And will take aappropriate steps to ensure any individuals potentially affected are notified as quickly as possible. Centcoms youtube site was compromised at the same time. The hackers posted proisis propaganda videos showing firesry scenes of isis training. Among the other threatening tweets the hackers warned northwestern soldiers, we are coming watch your lack. They went on to say they know where their spouses and children are greta. As president obama talks about
Cyber Security<\/a> hackers take over central commands twitter page. We are coming watch your back. That message left today on the twitter feed for u. S. Central command. Most disturbing with were the personal details that the hackers published of u. S. Army commanders. We are still examining and investigating the extent of this incident. How vulnerable are we to a cyber pearl harbor . Cyber can be incredibly destructive it can be disruptive. It can disrupt and it can destroy. Pretty significant difference weep what is a large data breach and the hacking of a twitter account. One of the tweets said isis is already here. We are in your pcs in each military base. And the news of isis infiltrating u. S. Military computer accounts sending shock waves into the
Defense Department<\/a> across washington and all of america. Does the most powerful military in the world let this happen . Congress joins us. Good evening, sir. Good to be with you greta. Youtube account and twitter account anding that that nothing classified was accessed by anybody. What i dont figure out then is how do they get the personnel details about the military. Taps little bit beyond twitter and youtube there is a little bit more to this story. I have friends mail all the time saying if you received this email from me i was hacked. Someone stole my password, whatever. I get that all the time from people. On twitter on facebook own youtube accounts. The worst part of this whole thing is the propaganda part of this. Thats the worse part. Thats the only part that hurts american interests is because to the folks that dont have computers, a lot of them in the middle east, this is going to look like a big deal where they can go home and say we hacked the department of defense. When, in reality, they did not hack the department of defense. Whoever it was hacked twitter and youtube. And thats it. Okay. So that may be, you know comforting tonight says youtube and twitter. What i still dont get and the other part is the part where
Jennifer Griffin<\/a> our pentagon correspondent is reporting that they got personal information about members in the military. And i cant imagine that they are sort of combing the
United States<\/a> for that. Where are they getting at . Greta, can you get that anywhere. Can you get that in a whole lot of places that are not secret. That dont have a lot of
Cyber Security<\/a> fences around them. You can find information just about anybody if you look hard enough and there is always areas that dont have those security fences up. Cyber wise. So thats where you go find that information. It could have been on a military payment web site. They could have somebody in the military that has access those to that information. There is other ways to do that besides hacking dod. But if there is a military payment web site then they got into the military computer somehow to get that information, right . They probably i would guess that they have that there are folks that are bad folks, radical islamist that are probably in the military. You probably have a few of those. But i dont think anything that compromises u. S. Security was touched in this intrusion. Thats what i think. And were going to find out more as we get hearings about this on the hill. You know, i actually dont think so either. What i do think is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. This is a warning to all of us. Not just the military but to all of us. And, in particular we know that greta right . I know that but these guys. I dont want our military hacked. Im sorry, you know, i dont mind if somebody if someones personal account gets hacked. Not very nice. Its awful and everything else. I dont want our u. S. Military. I want them to be a little bit smarter and better than everybody else. You know, the military is getting hacked every day. We havent had any really big intrusions since snow den, that was inside job. What you have and this also could have been a lot of different other hacking groups that helped on this too. It might not have been somebody from syria, right . Indeed it might not have. We havent gotten to the bottom of it congressman thank you for joining us. Thank you. Just yesterday a frightening warning from general martin dempsy. He warned if wages cyber war we dont have the upper hand it . Can be disruptive it can disrupt and it can destroy. And it can destroy hardware. It can disable
Critical Infrastructure<\/a> which could lead to loss of life. And i think those capabilities are out there. And, you know we have, in every domain, chris we generally enjoy a significant military advantage. But we have pier competitors in cyber. In other words, we dont have an advantage over that . We dont have an advantage. Its a level playing field. That makes this chairman uncomfortable. Why are we not ready. How devastating can this be . David, should is this the tip of the iceberg . Is this a warning or no big deal . Its the tip of the iceberg. Its not think. We have been warning about this for a number of years in the security industry. Have you had big players like russia and china where they have hacked into us for more military preparedness. Terror groups are campaigning for folks that have good expertise when it comes to security and hacking and starting to go after big targets thsmght is just really starting to come to fruition. You are going to start to see a lot of these terrorist groups have a lot more capabilities than what you are seeing today and could be disastrous. Why though
Something Like<\/a> twitter and youtube . That seems rather tame. Thats annoying. Why not jump for the nuclear cyberspace bomb and do something more potent if these terrorists really want to do something . We actually had the director of the nsa come out and say our power grid has been hacked and infiltrated a number of times. Its a matter hough is actually in there. Look at the demographics of hacking. China and russia have a large hook into our infrastructure at this point in time. They are not actively going about it because it has disruptions in their own economy. When it comes to terrorists, theys just getting capabilities up and running. So the twitter and youtube attacks while possibly not sophisticated is
Huge Marketing Campaign<\/a> for folks and especially the
Younger Generation<\/a> who has hacking capabilities that may become radicalized or maybe on the jihadist web sites looking at things to help these types of initiatives to start to focus on this. It doesnt take a large group to do. This you can have a group of 10 folks take down infrastructure and grid thats how bad our security is today. What was actually hacked here . Was it the military accounts or youtube server and the twitter server so it waste wasnt really the military that was hacked. Who was hacked . What it looks like ised that the attackers were able to gain credentials to the twitter account. Same account shared
Centcom Youtube<\/a> site. Easily guess the password. What we typically find these types of social media sites are handled by marketing type folks within organizations that dont necessarily have huge security pass words. What can i say that twitter and youtube have capabilities built into them two factor authentication that would have prevented thissed in the first place. Huge
Marketing Campaign<\/a> for isis right now. And they are looking like they can hack centcom right now. Would it be easy to identify who did this. Thats the scary part. Its no longer a military war anymore. Its not like we are fighting and we know who our enemy is can i disguise myself come from north korea and china or any demographic i want to to make it look like somebody else or bounce myself around to 10 different internet cafes until somebody thinks im in a place and im some place else around the world. A different type of state where i can be anybody on the internet and you are not going to be able to find me. David, thank you. Thanks, greta. Good to see. You good to see you. Top military brass centcom twitter and youtube accounts. At this hour the military saying it appears no classified information was ax seq. Saysed to release. This infiltration at a minimum proves we are vulnerable and at a minimum is embarrassedment for military and
Obama Administration<\/a>. What message does this send to the world and boo coo this part cyber. Ambassador . I dont think its as ceasous as it is embarrassing at this point. The fact is that the twitter and union accounts of cent some ought to be on a completely different system. Than the classified military. They ought to be physically separate systems. Its possible that the
Information Technology<\/a> officers of cent some are complete idiots and they put this in a classified a
Computer System<\/a> where you could ache sets classified information. If so they should all be fired. I dont think thats what happened. Well, if there are idiots that did this. Put this there, how can we have any sense of confidence tonight that those idiots arent doing similar things . Look, we have made mistakes. Bradley manning was able to download countless classified documents from a computer that shouldnt have had that capability. The military gave him access to it. But i think even more important than finding outs what happened here. Not every cyber attack is equal to every other cyber attack. Taking down centcoms twitter account is not the same as getting the president s
Nuclear Launch<\/a> codes. Instead of this mass of
Cyber Attacks<\/a> as if they are all the same lets get a ladder of escalation like we have in the nuclear field. That makes sense. There is another thought. If this is the tip of the ice beg, for gods sake open up our eyes. This may be a good warning. Its serious. We know that the pentagon has been the target of
Cyber Efforts<\/a> from china from north korea, from russia, from iran american corporations have been as well. But the ladder of escalation is important. Vandalism. Theft, intelligence, war and terrorism. Is this vandalism just because somebody got the youtube account or is it more serious . I think the tack on sony was more serious than this. But thats my point. Lets get an understanding of what is really a vulnerability and what is an inconvenience. Are we doing it . I dont think we are. It may be in the classified world the great theory i dont see it yet. Until you get a grip on it and know what the ladder is i just think there is confusion and fear that ought to be a warning to us. But no guide for action. I have talked to people on capitol hill who are on all these intelligence committees. And they never give me any classified information. But they have scared me. They have said that there are really serious things going on out there and were not ready i dont think they are deliberately trying to scare me but i think this is serious. I think its because the thinking has not gone into what exists. Most fright thing thing is what dempsey said. Dominance in every other aspect of warfare. Were simply equal with a number of other nations and maybe terrorists around the world and cyberspace. That is a problem for the
United States<\/a> why is this embarrassing . Its the central command. All that stands between us and utter chaos in the middle east and they cant even defend their twitter account. On the other hand it, is a twitter account. Really . Its not the death star. Thats the point. But if you are going to be on twitter and you are centcom, you are the american military. You ought to think can we protect this against this kind of hacking . Its a kind of mindless rush into social media without thinking through the political implications. Thats why they are embarrassed. Is it serious militarily . I dont think so. Think its isis connection or using vandals to scare people. We dont know. Thats something we need to find out. Somebody say centcom has been hacked and next thing you know we are at death con one. Its not realistic response. What about the fact that there is information about some of the top brass . That didnt come from twit with iter or youtube. That came from some place else. Who knows where it came from. That wasnt given away. That had to be hacked some place. Central command twitter account in the classified system they are idiots. I dont think thats what they did. I hope its not. Nice to see you, ambassador. This is a fox news alert. Were getting news out of france right now. That six terrorist cell members may be on the move inside france. Amy kellogg is tracking the story from paris right now. Amy . Hi, greta. The parisians worst nightmare. Its not a surprise. We spoke to someone from the police union today who said there has to be more out there because, frankly they had money these terrorists. They had arms. They have logistics. And they had to have drivers. They had to have people helping them pull this off. In fact, greta who put together that martyrdom video of one of the terrorists and then released it yesterday. Now tonight we have a number on it police do believe at least six from that terrorist cell to be at large. Now, tricky today released some cctv footage of the boumeddiene, the widow behind the terrorist of the
Kosher Grocery<\/a> store massacre arriving at the airport january 2nd a week before the attacks in paris. Believe she did some sightseeing before needing syria. 10,000 on the streets now of french cities, most of them concentrated in paris. They are protecting sensitive sites. Its unprecedented to have such a big
Army Presence<\/a> here domestically, but with suspects still on the loose, or suspected suspects still on the loose, it makes sense. The cover of the survivors issue of
Charlie Hebdo<\/a> which is going to be out on wednesday, was revealed tonight. It pictures the
Prophet Muhammad<\/a> holding a sign je suis charlie. I am charlie. Has he a tear over his eye and over his head is written everything is forgiven. The survivors of the
Charlie Hebdo<\/a> massacre have been working in another news organization, their offices are still a crime scene and they have told people in interviews that this has been a good distraction for them. A bit from their grief. They feel they need to do this. The edition will be out greta, on wednesday. Normally
Charlie Hebdo<\/a> has 60,000 copies. This week it will have 3 million its going to be printed in 16 different languages, we are promised there will be be cartoons in it from the deceased cartoonists that have never before been released. Greta . Amy, thank you. Straight ahead, are you furious that president obama did not go to paris and march with all the others nations leaders . Did president obama not think it was important enough for him how about kerry. And how about attorney general eric holder . He was in paris and he decided to go home and skip the march. It wasnt because he the attorney general had to catch a flight. He was on a private plane, an air force plane financed by you the taxpayers. Why couldnt he stick around . So are you furious . Former congressman allen west is on the record next. Plus dramatic new video boy falls from ski lift two stories down. What happened next . More of that shocking video is just moments away. Three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad then
Liberty Mutual<\/a> calls. And you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. See
Car Insurance<\/a> in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Constipated . Yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. It has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. For gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works mmm mmm live the regular life. [container door opening] what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. Introducing the firstever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. Once you go beyond utility theres no going back. Hot heck is running the white house and who is advising president obama. Showed terrorists the world is not afraid. Where are we . Did president obama go . Nope. How about
Vice President<\/a> biden . Not a chance. How about secretary of state kerry . He is no show too. Maybe attorney general eric soldier . No. He was there but left before the march. Only one big french ally skipping out yesterday, the
United States<\/a>. Guy president obama snub the french and why wont our leaders do their job . Joining us now colonel alan west. Nice to see you, considerable. I should add that secretary kerry in his defense he was going to pakistan to answer to another terrorist herb. Your thoughts on the president not going . Well, it was an absence of leadership the
United States<\/a> is considered and the president of the
United States<\/a> is considered the leader of the free world. In an instance such as this it would have been great to have the president showing that mad mood abbas accused of quibbling on this. Yet it was the
White House Press<\/a> secretary josh ernest today who said they made a mistake. So you have to ask yourself, you know, who is calling the shots, who is advising the president. You know, what do they consider good optics because this is bad perception if i were invited to a big event and i assume the president of the
United States<\/a> was invited the first thing that i would german chancellor
Prime Minister<\/a> cammeron president abbas, the palestinian president. Prime minister netanyahu who i start hearing all these big names i think two things, one is wow the
United States<\/a> ought to be represented. Secondly, this is my chance to get everybody in the room and try to figure out how we are going to confront this problem, you know, unity in numbers. You are absolutely right. But the thing is, we have an administration that does not want to admit that there is a problem. If you go back and you look at attorney general eric holders view on sunday on two talk shows, he refused to say islamic extremism. We can call the nidal hasan attack work place violence they just see this as extremism by another name. And thats very disconcerting. When you go back and you look at the speech that was given by the egyptian president on new years day at the islamic jurors preens prudence university there. And he called out the radical imams to stop with the violence. Stop with the vile messaging that is causing people to go toward this very virulent ideology. But, yet, we cant get that from our own president. And our own leadership. But, yet they can take air force one to knoxville tennessee and talk about
Free Community<\/a> college education. Why wont they say islamic extremism . Because they dont believe it or not politically correct . What is the rationale . At this point in six years in his administration it begins to look like complicity. In 2009 when the president spoke in cairo he invited members of the
Muslim Brotherhood<\/a> to be front and center. You have to ask yourself is this a president that is serious about combating islamic islamic totalitarianism and combating this enemy . I dont know if we can fairly answer that question but right now the president is stacking the cards against himself. Well, he has used drones against a lot of people, in fact he got al awlaki in imrem dr. Men. Drones is not a strategy. That is not a strategy, greta. I totally understand. I think my guess what his thinking is like when he spoke at the
Democratic Convention<\/a> 2012 and al qaeda is on its heels. I think he wants to convince himself this is over and this has been won. Of course. And i think thats the problem. Not that he is in favor of any of this stuff but just that he wants to convince himself this has all gone away. It is his political ideology and
Campaign Promises<\/a> that is driving his strategy colonel west nyeste to see you sir, thank you. My pleasure, thank you. How embarrassing president obama kicking his feet up at the white house while 40 other leaders hit the streets of paris. How did the white house explain this one . We have it all on camera. You have to see this. A young child falls several stories from a ski lift. All of this is caught on camera. Videyoo and dramatic rescue t operation is straigho. T ahead. With tena, let yourself go. Be the one with the crazy laugh. And keep being their favorite playmate. With tenas unique super absorbent micro beads that lock in moisture and odor. Tena lets you be you. And an
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President Biden<\/a> secretary kerr i canty. Many americans embarrass are not the only ones noticing. Walid phares joins us. Nice to see you, walid. Can you speak arabic, read arabic, you are looking at the newspapers and media arend at world. Whats everyone saying. Beyond that i was in arab media for 24 hours during the event, after the event. First question that i had been asked by anchors in the gulf and egypt, north africa, many other places where is your president. Where is your
Vice President<\/a> . They were really curious, genuinely curious, they wanted to know why is the president not there they raised the issue of security. Is this a political attitude . He doesnt want to be with those nations fighting terrorists especially the egyptians very nervous about that. What can they conclude . I dont know im not the president so i cant answer that question for you why he wasnt there. Absolutely. Ask the the president. But the assumption was he wasnt there the
Vice President<\/a> was not there the member of cabinet was there did not appear and there were statements made about is this a war on terror or not . People are not dumb. They know, if you connect all the dots, its not a security issue because there were other scenarios that the president could have gone. He could have gone to france but not to the demonstration. He could have visited
Charlie Hebdo<\/a> and made statements he could have sent a video. I cant confirm that that there was no request made of the secret service to begin with we dont even know what the security risks were. That, i dont know. So what are the newspapers saying . Whats the theory . Whats sort of the general thinking in the middle east about his no show why he didnt show up . One each one of these countries has a different beef. The egyptians are not very happy because of the partnership with the
Muslim Brotherhood<\/a>. So they assume that president is not going there because of the influence of the
Muslim Brotherhood<\/a>. The gulf states are very nervous, it means for them that he doesnt want to commit in the fight against the terrorists. So they were nervous about is he going to commit against isis or not . And other societies, other communities, other media went on the
Conspiracy Theory<\/a> in the middle east and does not stop there thats the
Conspiracy Theory<\/a> they are running on . Influences here in washington, d. C. And lobbies and what you have that have been influencing him and his decision not to go for variety of reasons i read the turkish mayor in turkish cities. So many theories out there in the media. Kgb still alive in the mind of many people. Dissidence within the cia. Its just for movies that situation. It president obama respected in the middle east . Its very hard to answer this question. But, basically the administration in general. Lets call it america quote, unquote, is not seen as credible anymore. They will issue of north intervening in syria engaging in iranians at the expense of the arab allies. Siding with the
Muslim Brotherhood<\/a>. While the egyptians rising against and in libya, for example, we train and worked with, at least for some period of time with those who actually attacked us in benghazi now attacking. Bottom line, big picture not so good. Walid, thank you as always. Thank you. And fierce criticism continues to mount president obama being awol in paris over the weekend. The white house is on the defensive. What is the administrations excuse . Fox news chief
White House Correspondent<\/a> grilled press secretary josh ernest yesterday. We agree we should have sent someone with a high profile. Question, why didnt you. I tried to describe to you exactly the situation here that there we are talking about a march that came together with essentially 36 hours notice. We havent gotten accounting what the president did sunday. I havent spoken to the president about what he did yesterday. You obviously prepared for this and you have said many times most transparent administration. What was the president doing. I prepared for a lot of questions today not prepared for a question based on what the president was actually doing. , okay. Ed henry joins us from the white house lawn. Ed, i watched that long exchange. I have watched it twice, in fact. Did you get an answer . No we never found out. We dont want every last detail. Is he entitled to some private time. Weave know he was at the white house. What was so important . Was there some meeting . Was there
Something Else<\/a> going on where they said you know look, we are not going to send him to paris in the bottom line is they could have sent any number of officials. Its not just about the president you have the
Vice President<\/a> who is having down time in delaware this weekend. Its not like he had heavy schedule either. The most bizarre part of this pardon me, really is the attorney general eric holder. He was in paris. He was there. He had important meetings to his credit about counter terrorism. Thats official business some some reason aids say he had to get. For some reason attorney general holder left after skipping the rally. That was someone who could have gone. Last one i make on security question of course the president should be safe. No one suggest he go into a cruise area when josh earnst said we only had 336 hours to plan it a why did all these other
World Leaders<\/a> go if there was not enough plan time to plan for security. Benjamin netanyahu is he source of targets as
Prime Minister<\/a>. Angela merkel. Germanys
Prime Minister<\/a>. We called the secret
Service Today<\/a> and asked them if they put together some sort of a plan to get the president there last minute. They say they never got a call. They never got a request to send him. Now, josh earnst didnt suggest that they had requested that. But he seemed to suggest security might have been an issue. Secret service says it would have been challenging, they admit. And josh is right about that do it last minute. Secret service says they never got allca. You have to wonder what went wrong here . Apparently a lot went wrong on this one. Ed, thank you. Good to see you. And new
Jersey Governor Chris Christie<\/a> is the hugger and chief from president obama to
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United States<\/a>. One of the connected fox news correspondent
Catherine Herridge<\/a> joins us. Three videos . Three videos within 48 hours. Some were provided to fox news by advisory which monitors jihadi web sites. Most notable is this one with coulibaly, the suspect in the jewish
Grocery Store<\/a> attack. Whats skiing cant here is he not only pledges allegiance to isis but its clear that the tape has been has that feel propaganda go to go on the shelf. Part of a group. Correct. I mean, this is not just a lone wolf, if this is edited package of this guy. That means there is a
Bigger Network<\/a> out there. Correct. And the other two are what, the videos . The other two are similar theme. One in particular calls for attacks on
Intelligence Officers<\/a> police and civilians. Not only in europe with you also identifies specific states in the
United States<\/a> any idea who put that video out, same person . Almost awful these are put out on twitter or paste it another more links to isis. The quality we spoke about before. Quality is pretty good meaning that it is more professional. I wouldnt say professional. But anyone under 30 who has good skills with a mack edit book can probably do it. Catherine, thank you and the french
Prime Minister<\/a> is now declaring war with radical islam. Joining us now is terrorism expert dr. Jasser. President of the
Islamic Forum<\/a> for democracy and he also served as a u. S. Navy doctor for 11 years. Good evening dr. Jasser. Good evening, greta. Nice to be with you. Nice to have you. French
Prime Minister<\/a> says says absolutely. Its sort of like well welcome to our world. Its heart breaking that the
Tipping Point<\/a> for president s like him took the assassination of so many in the media about i think they are finally awakening. Strategy now that you have named it. Not only radical islam but political islam. Evil empire today is the organization of islamic corporation. All of these islamic countries which feed the laws and ideology of political heard it so. Im believing it myself now. They will not embrace the term radical islam. Do you agree that they dont embrace it and if so why not . Mop dra. Because muslims are a minority they have to deal with problem in minority that they dont want to. B, there is a long war involved here. Ultimately if they are going to address that, if you dont name it you dont have to deal with it stepping out of a whack amonthly program which is what our
Security Program<\/a> is right now. Addressing ideology that is not all violent but most of it is theological and needs reform and to take sides within the house of islam is something most of these leaders dont want to do. What strategy do you recommend. Have you been around this stuff in some ways. I know you are a navy doctor. None the less, whats your thought on the strategy . I have dedicated my life to, this greta, this is a muslim problem that needs a muslim solution. Americans need to develop a national con con sen enemies are radical islamists. All islamic states to. Have this
National Consensus<\/a> that thats where we want to move to take sides within this house of muslim. There are muslims against islamo operatism. Die for america rather than die for the jihad. Dr. Jasser, always nice to have you. Thank you for joining us again. Any time. Thanks, greta. I got something i want you it know. I goal offtherecord with you next. Ahhhhhhhhhh growth you can count on from the bank where no branches equals great rates. I have the worst cold with this runny nose. I better take something. Dayquill cold and flu doesnt treat your runny nose. Seriously . Alkaseltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. Oh, what a relief it is. Hem save. Thanks, flo. Okay, lets go get you an ice cream cone, champ. With sprinkles . Sprinkles are for winners. I understand. We believe that we should have sent someone with a higher profile. The white house admitting today it should have sent a higher profile leader to france. Joining us is a. B. Hill and byron york. I dont know how a. B. Feels about this. A. B. . I think there are a lot of things you have to do as president that feel profung tore this is one of them really important moment. Its not like a couple of leaders got on a plane, its 44 of them. The fact that we didnt have the secretary of state there or the
Vice President<\/a> or president obama seems really beyond the pale. Its not an optics thing. Its not for how it looks its for what it means. This is a time when president obama knows the country thinks he has kind of given up on his job. We talked a lot about this here. He didnt even try to be interested in showing that he cared. Its not only that its a message we are sending to our allies that we dont have the president there or at least
Vice President<\/a> biden or secretary kerry. There are a lot of americans who wanted to be represented there. And they werent. I he do believe that either biden or kerry should be there. Why do we have a
Vice President<\/a> if not to go to things. Why dont we have a president . Whats he doing . I do not believe it was called for for the president to go. There have been several instances in the past. In 2004 there was a bombing in madrid that killed 191 people. The president of the
United States<\/a> did not go to spain. Let me stop you there. After 9 11, it was french president who was the first one to show up at the white house. It scheduled. He showed up first. This was a spur of the moment thing that i personally think there would have been security issues. Although the white house is clearly spinning on that today. Ed henry says the
Discreet Service<\/a> was never asked. They were never asked. If they had been asked, i dont know what they would have said. It was clear from the briefing today that they it just didnt occur to them. They didnt want to go. Clearly the
Vice President<\/a> , by the way, the president and the
Vice President<\/a> were both like not doing anything. There was a big football day. How about
Prime Minister<\/a> netanyahu . He was there. Hey as target on his back. Absolutely. Im sure he had heavy security with him. Look, i think the bigger reason why the white house didnt pushto send that high profile person is that its absolutely consistent with the president s efforts to down play the threat of terrorism over the years. Remember what he said about the jay vee team . He also the
Democratic Convention<\/a> said al qaeda was on its heels or something. Thats right. He gave a speech in 2013 at the the
Defense University<\/a> and in which he said, basically declared victory over al qaeda and its as if he has defined the terrorist threat specifically as core al qaeda. We got them on the run. We have beaten them and the rest of it is pre9 11 stuff we have to live with it. We have 20 seconds left. A. B. , did you want him to go, for you . Well it didnt occur to me until it was a story of him not going. And then i thought, wow this is pretty incredible that they are all there and they are linking arms and is he not there whats really surprising is totally apart from his philosophy about where we are in the the war on terror and if al qaeda has been disseminated. It really sounded from the briefing today that like they got this so wrong they got caught and they were surprised themselves making the wrong decision. And can i only think who is advising him because that would have been an easy one. If someone had asked me, i would have advised him. Panel, thank you. Now lets all go off the record. Early yesterday i began posting on gretawire and facebook was not going to the march in paris i was scandalized. 40
World Leaders<\/a> marching arm and arm and he didnt go. The president sent a terrible message this was important enough for him to go. He is wrong. It was important. He should have gone. He could have gone. And today secretary of state john kerry perhaps trying to provide cover for the president insulted those of us who think president obama should have been there. Secretary kerry calling quibbling as though its petty to want our nation wanting our president to have our president representing. Also today josh earnst admitting the out when should have sent high profile official. Not conceding that president simself should have gone we have bigger fish to fry like islamic extremists. Even if the
Obama Administration<\/a> wont use that term, i will. How about you . Thats my offtherecord comment tonight. Coming up, a young boy dangling from a ski lift. Horrifying ordeal. You have to see this. Was you will just moments away. Kid do you pay him . Dad of course. Kid how much . Dad i dont know exactly. Kid what if youre not happy . Does he have to pay you back . Dad nope. Kid why not . Dad it doesnt work that way. Kid why not . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at
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Jersey Governor Chris Christie<\/a> caught on camera celebrating playoff win of his team
Dallas Cowboys<\/a> to giving giant man hug to jerry jones. Now
Chris Christie<\/a> is taking heat again from wisconsin congressman paul ryan happened right after the
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Dallas Cowboys<\/a>. Tweeted this photo hugging his three children along with the taunt governor christie do you need a hug now . Now its your turn to get in on the football feud. Send me your best christie hug joke. Keep clean. Tweet me at greta. Dont forget. Thank you for being with us tonight. We will see you again tomorrow night right here at 7 00 p. M. Eastern. Also dont forget to watch hannity at 10 00 p. M. He has senator mark rubio. See you tomorrow night 7 p. M. Right here on the fox news channel. Tion. The
Oreilly Factor<\/a> is on. Tonight. The french
Prime Minister<\/a> said yesterday that france is at war are with radical islam. Is the u. S. At war with radical islam . I certainly think that we are at war with those who would commit terrorist attacks. Big trouble for the
Obama Administration<\/a>. It now admits it made a mistake by not joining with 40
World Leaders<\/a> to condemn radical islamic terrorism in paris. We have two reports this evening. Im saying romney is running. Thats what im saying. That was way back in september. So how did i know mitt romney would make another run for the presidency . We will tell you. Do you admire the fact that the president went golfing after that american was beheaded . Yeah, if he was on vacation. Also ahead, watters world, the","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia801609.us.archive.org\/25\/items\/FOXNEWSW_20150113_000000_On_the_Record_With_Greta_Van_Susteren\/FOXNEWSW_20150113_000000_On_the_Record_With_Greta_Van_Susteren.thumbs\/FOXNEWSW_20150113_000000_On_the_Record_With_Greta_Van_Susteren_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240617T12:35:10+00:00"}