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Highlighting huge divisions between the United States and its key european allies in the fight to combat global terrorism, karl rove joins us live now. Karl . Karl, break this down for me because i think everyone is wondering why cant they say the words islamic extremism . Well, im not certain i have got a good explanation for it. It makes us look oddly disconnected. Look today the japanese Prime Minister traveling in the middle east after the death at the hands of isil of two japanese nationals called islamic extremism. The president of the United States cant bring himself to do it but the president of france can bring himself to call it islamic extremism. Secretary kerry cant bring himself to say it but the British Foreign minister standing right next to him calls it islamic extremism. I dont get why the administration doesnt seem to understand that the moral authority of calling it out as islamic extremism is to our advantage. It causes people inside the Muslim Community to understand they have an essential role to play in confronting a virus which is infecting their religion. Look, kerry today in his speech said, you know, this is really alienation, poverty, and thrillseeking. Is he right that that contributes to it. But that would be insufficient without the blessing of radical imams and radical islamic ideology that justifies these kind of acts. Until the United States says that we cant act upon it. Karl, people keep talking about getting moderate muslims to weigh he in and getting moderate imams to weigh in. Im not sure that would make much of a difference. They are pretty angry already. With regard to the administration i looked back in 2009, the administration had no trouble using the term right wing extremism identifying that kind of extremism when it was referring to it a department of Homeland Security threat by republicans. So they have actually used an adjective before that noun before. I take that point i disagree with you on the issue of indonesia they practice a brand,a version of islam which is more peaceful and it allows them to live in comoojted community with nonmuslim believers. They have confronted inside their nation in very profound way both using the authority of the state and the authority of the religion because they understand what a threat it would represent to their life. And so we want to do. This i thought it was incredibly important thing for the president of egypt to say we must confront the radicals within islam and because they are perverting our faith using the name of our religion to do things which are not in the nature of our religion. We want that. We dont want to put everybody who is a muslim of the world and be against us. Our point is your religion is being perverted by he extremist. You have a moral responsibility to confront them in the communities you live and in the nations where you exdisblis yeah i i do think they have a moral authority. Im not sure how much of a difference it would make because these terrorists have already perverted the religion enough. And i want to go back and to your point because did i read your wall street journal column yesterday, you talked about how disconnected the president is karl, you know that president obama not easy at admitting his mistakes. If he admits, if he says radical extremism wouldnt that mean that he would have to go back and concede that he was wrong all along . He was wrong in his cairo speech. He was wrong about isis being i have a jay vee he was wrong about the arab spring being a failure. Is not going to do that. No. The president is arrogantly stubborn in refusing to do this because he understands on some level maybe not consciously but on some level that that this would undermine his whole world view that america is to blame, that the things that have happened in the media are largely the responsibility of us or the israelis. That were at fault. Its not them. Its not the bad guys. But it does make him look oddly disconnected when everybody else in the world with more stand something willing to say it it. It also makes him look disconnected. There was unbelievable editorial today in the the Washington Post in which they took him to task on, you know, iran in yemen and syria in proxies and the president dogs, you know lets them sort of go to town. Iran through its proxies in yemen. Iran through its proxies in syria. Yet, he refuses to act firmly against assad or to allow additional pressure to be built on sanctions in iran because he is afraid of offending them. What about them offending us by their actions . They are the sponsors of the revolt in yemen. And they are the principle backers along with russia and syria. You know the president s mind set here is, you know it is one thing to be detected. Its another thing to be detected and dangerous. Thats what the president s thinking is on these issues. It is certainly not peace prize worthy behavior i would say, karl. Another big story tonight. We have got to get to. Hang on one second. New outrage over president obama finding time to sit down with three youtube stars, yes. One of those intriewrs, im sure you have seen the footage is a woman who bathes in her own cereal. Yummy. So how can president obama refuse to take the time to meet with israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu . Does the president have his priorities straight . President obama apparently picking his meetings carefully. Wait, wait wait. President obama has decided he will not be meeting with the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu but yesterday he did meet with a bunch of youtube stars. I have your first wife my first wife . For the people to say this is diminishing the dignity of the office that happened a long time ago. If you had any super power, what would it be . What country are we becoming . I cut off the hoods off the hoodies. I understand. I did that for real to protect him because im afraid if he goes outside that somebody might shoot to kill him. Who knew in order to get a video with the president you have got to jump in a bathtub. So karl, if i were sitting in a bathtub of, i dont know, cheerios, do you think the president would sit down and talk to me . You know, i dont know, i mean lets ask Chris Wallace if thats how is he going to try to get the next interview with the white house. Look, i stand that the white house interest in trying to go around the media and go directly into the, you know, into the device the ipads, the computers, the devices of mobile devices of americans and get their message through. But did i think this was demeaning and silly and not serious. And the president was tone deaf. They put a big hype up about this on the state of the union address. Then the thing comes out about netanyahu and they dont seem to understand that this makes them look even less connected and less interested in the reality of our relationship with israel. Josh earnst today made it worse. He says well our excuse is if there is an election coming up in march, i understand that, that you dont want to look like you are intruding in the middle of an election. On the other hand we have an election in may in britain. And obama was perfectly happy having Prime Minister cammeron here and sending him up to chill to negotiate. Capitol hill to negotiate. President obama has spent more time with Benjamin Netanyahu than any other world leader. One is, first of all remember part of that time was subjecting him to the abuse of the white house you know which sat him down in the chair and refused to give him a glass of water and spent hours berating him and told him to leave by the back door and alerted the they were throwing the Prime Minister of israel out the back door of the white house. Not particularly quality time. Howard kurtz came out, he said this interview was beneath the office of the president. And i mean i think tuckner that montage made a good point. He said the horse left the barn a long time ago. Didnt that happen when he sent down with pimp with a limp and i get why he does it and i think he actually is genius at it he does it way better than a lot of republicans do. I wish we had republicans that could sit down and do these kind of things. I give him credit for going to that audience and using that medium. The fact that he snubbed Benjamin Netanyahu, i mean personally karl cutting off diplomatic relations with israel why cant he do both . I mean, it really does make him look bad. Look there is a broader problem here. President obama spends virtually no time with foreign leaders. Take his predecessor every two to three weeks had a secure Video Conference with either maliki in in iraq or karzai in afghanistan. President obama went nearly a year without talking to either one of them there is no world leader who thinks he has a relationship with president obama. Look, personal relationships matter. The interest of the United States predominate. Your ability to get things done matters to a big degree on what kind of relationship you as the president are able to build with foreign leaders. This president puts no interest in that just like he puts no interest in building relationship with the leaders of congress. Well, he has a personal relationship with glozel. He has a personal relationship with her. Maybe she can share some makeup tips. I dont know. Its hard to pull off green lipstick. She got some tougherons in than those folks over at nbc. I give her credit for that and i do love fruit loops. Thank you, karl rove. Thank you. This is a fox news alert. The fate of two japanese hostages held by isis is unknown. The terror group demanding a 200milliondollar ransom from the japanese government. And now the deadline for that payment has passed. Catherine herridge joins us. Thank you andrea. Earlier today fox news obtained a series of tweets that were sent out by an isislinked account. Tonight they are being examined by the u. S. Intelligence community. In those tweets they claim that the deadline has passed to pay this 200milliondollar ransom by the government in tokyo and that they have executed these hostages. This is still being assessed and there is no confirmation of the claim with but this group does have a track record of following through on its threats when it comes to the execution of these hostages, andrea. Catherine, i saw your reporting earlier you mentioned that a teleprompter is involved. You were even analyzing the credibility of the video. Can you speak to some of the points that you were making earlier . I mean, this seems like a very tech savvy organization. Well, they are getting slicker and slicker with every video. In this particular case when you look closely at the video outside analysts have pointed to the fact when you look at the shadows toward the bottom of the image from the two hostages and also the executioner, if there was a Single Source of light in this image from sunlight lets say, all of the shadows should be going in the same direction, but in this particular case they converge so they are at least a couple different sources of light. One idea that was thrown out there is that they used what we call in tv a green screen when you project the image behind you that you want like i have here in this particular studio. And isis has control of the half dozen tv stations and there was another episode with a british hostage john cantley where he is in a studio and he is speaking to camera and he is such a lengthy speech and the way his eyes are moving it suggests they were using a teleprompter in that case. So it shows you that they are using the technology thats at their disposal to try and put out a very slick message, andrea. All right. Catherine, we will stay on that story. Thank you so much. You are welcome. Now on to yemen where thousands of people are protesting in the streets as iranian backed rebels secure their hold on the war torn country. The chaos breaking out just one day after yemens u. S. Backed president bankruptly resigned from power. Charlene is live from yemen. The reasons for the demonstrations obviously deferred in the north. They were protesting the events yesterday and in the south they are driven to seek their own independence. Now, yemen is without a government the Prime Minister of the cabinet resigned clearly and there is no president. On sunday what would happen next is on sunday, we will learn whether resignation has been if it is accepted then effectively, the interim heads will be the speaker of the parliament for about 60 days and if its rejected, i mean president harvey the next three months until there is a president ial election but obviously in the interim its driven yemen into a deeper chaos. It looks like extremely volatile. One this administration didnt seem to be anticipating. They pointed as a success. Stay safe charlene, thanks for that report. And the turmoil in yemen threatening american efforts to combat one of the most powerful al qaeda branches in the world. Thats not the only problem. The death of King Abdullah of saudi arabia triggering new fears that the inability in the middle east may be a worse Case Scenario for the United States. Representative ron deisnt a as it joins us. So ron i just mentioned the administration we heard before president obama being surprised by certain things that he is not showing up for intelligence briefings, is this another missed scenario . Because this is one situation in yemen. Yemen was actually a country that the administration pointed to as a success, so did this sneak up on the administration or has this been pretty volatile for a long time . When he cited yemen as a success just a few months ago i whenced at that because there has been a lot of instability. Aqap has been operating there for a long time. Being some of my republican colleagues we have squirmishes with the president will his executive overreach. He sometimes acts like a king. I dont think anyone we would ever confuse this king with king midas he doesnt have the midas touch when he gets involved or cite these examples they tend to crumble after the fact whether libya, his involvement in syria and now having cited yemen we are looking at a situation where you are going to have iranian back militants siege control of the government. The moderate sunni establishment who we had been allied with, they are being pushed out. Thats going to actually give al qaeda and the aian peninsula more berth to be able to operate. Of course they are a very lethal group. This is going south very quickly. I think the president was just naive back in september when he cited it as a success story. He also didnt next al qaeda in his state of the union which is a bit strange because you talk about the sunni government collapsing, creating this vacuum for al qaeda to rise up. Speak a little bit more, congressman, about the relation and how this impacts iran . Of course you know president obama saying he would veto any legislation that you or your colleagues or anyone in the Senate Passes and sends to his desk. Do you sense congressman, that with this bill particularly on iranian sanctions that you may get enough support in the senate to override a president ial veto . Absolutely i think we should have passed the sanctions yesterday. I hope we will do it very soon. This administration over the last six years what we have seen is a huge they are dominant in lebanon with hesitate hezbollah. They now have a foot hold in yemen. I think the president and secretary kerry they think somehow that we can have a collaborative relation with iran. Strike a nuclear deal that is a fulls Iran Nuclear Weapon but its also dangerous because it alienates the sunni arabs in the region and so their choices between shiite backed government to the United States is appears to support or terrorist groups. They are more apt to side with a Sunni Islamic terrorist group. Than if they dont think there is a chance for a middle way. Congressman, i only have a couple seconds left. Quickly tell me i know Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to speak in the house of representatives in march now. What have you been hearing about by your constituents we know the white house isnt happy about this. But i think its a good thing because i think we need to have a big stick. I think the president needs a big stick even though joe biden says he has one. I think this is good to have netanyahu there because it shows the iranians look, if you falter, if this falters this is whose side we are on. Quick feedback on what you are hearing. Yeah 100 agreement. My constituents support israel. I think we need to stand with israel. And the president is outside of the mainstream on this issue. Not just with republicans but with democrats as well. Yeah, i think thats a great point. Representative thanks so much. Thank you. 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