This will come back to haunt you. Thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. Thats it for special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. Greta goes on the record right now. Special report online in two seconds. Tonight, on wisconsin. My home state under the political microscope in less than one week from tonight, wisconsin voters will hit the polls. Donald trump, senator ted cruz, they are taking their blistering fight to the home of american values. Protecting the bill of rights, protecting life. Protecting marriage. Protecting our fundamental liberties. Those are womens issues. Those are mens issues. Those are adult issues. Those are childrens issues. America. Cruz will never have it he will never be any good at what he does. He cant get anybody in the senate to endorse him. Enough is enough, we need a president who will keep america safe. When i said temporary ban on muslims, i thought that
was the end of my campaign. I didnt care. Something. We have to do something. And my numbers went through the roof. I didnt know that. There is not a mom in this country who doesnt worry about the safety of her kids. When we see protests and riots and we see politicians siding with the criminals over the police officers. We have the geneva conventions. Killing the enemy. Too tough. They have none. They dont have any regulations. On the record has life Team Coverage throughout the great state of wisconsin. We begin u h p l cameron in appleton, wisconsin. That poll we talked about last night the Marquette University law poll shows ted cruz has a 10 point lead in wisconsin. This is a big deal. Donald trump is at 30 and john kasich at 21 . Considerably off the pace. This is a very big moment in
the campaign. Were less than a week away from wisconsin which has the potential to change the shape of the race, potentially the trajectory for cruz and trump. Big win here for cruz could significantly slow down trumps quest to get to 1237 before the convention. Cruz today held what he called a celebration of women and unveiled the cruz for Women Initiative which included his wife, his mother, former rival former ceo Hewlett Packard ceo carly fie1n now an ally. He went out of his way the need to respect women and the fate of women in american politics. Specifically aimed at donald trump. Trump today got all tied up in the politics of abortion. He was asked whether or not if abortion was l banned women should be punished for having an abortion and he said yes, in fact, they should. He was asked if men should be punished and he said no, they should not. Nowhere in the conversation did he talk about the idea that if abortion were made illegal it would be abortion
providers facing legal problems if abortion were to continue. It would be outlawed, obviously. With all that playing out john kasich today was in new york. And he has almost kissed off wisconsin, recognizing he is not competitive in the polls. Is he Eastern States. He was at howard beach. He thinks he can do much better in Eastern States pick up a few delegates and win those. Today he was spotted eating pizza with a fork, greta. Yikes. Thats not good in wisconsin. We dont do it that way. Anyway, carl, always the sideways between two u. S. Senators. Senator fine gold and ron johnson the incumbent. Do you have any thoughts how the president ial election bears on that . Well, sure. Senators andu house members in both parties are very concerned about what the ballot looks like come fall, particularly on the republican side. There are a number who have expressed concern if trump were to be the nominee at the top of the ticket, his opinions, his policies, his
rhetoric would redowned against them. Its not at all out of the question that with republicans with far more seats up for grabs in the senate, they are at much greater risk of losing seats. And trump wouldnt help them. Thats a major concern there has even been talk on the house side that the house could be in play. Which is probably a lot less likely. But, so ron johnson, obviously they are very, very concerned about it and democrats on the other hand, think that Hillary Clinton compares to a donald trump candidacy would give them an advantage to build their numbers in the capitol. Carl, thank you. The fierce battle for the badger state is on fire as carl reported. Brand new poll of Wisconsin Republican voters shows senator cruz leapfrogging donald trump leading the pack with a whopping 40 . Donald trump is behind with 30 and john kasich 19 point behind donald trump with 21 . Real clear politics, caitlin huey bernsen. Jason, how important is this particular primary . Its huge. Its huge. This could be the difference between a contested convention and an uncontested convention. Trump could really advance significantly here. Its a state that should play to his strengths. A high d percentage of blue collar workers. Low percentage of evangelical voters. But cruz has been has been surging. Its interesting that i think donald trump thinks democratic voters may save him. Is he criticizing the governor, scott walker for not raising taxes. And lowering spending. This is someone running for the republican nomination, lodging these criticisms. I think trump is hoping the democrats will save him in wisconsin. Well, the democrats sure dont like Governor Scott walker in that state. So maybe thats why he is doing that particular strategy. Caitlin, what do you think . I think this is an interesting race because its really the first time that we have a three person race. Early voting really played a factor in arizona, for example. Marco rubio was still on the ballot, actually beat john kasich in arizona. Wisconsin, i think whats
interesting about this poll is that we have seen Donald Trumps numbers stay flat while cruz has certainly surged. And kasich has1 gained mow men tirges too. A bolsters that argument fewer candidates in the race, that would, you know, donald trump wouldnt be doing as well as he is doing. There is also going to be a twoweek lull between wisconsin race and the next contest. So beings getting momentum will be key in changing the trajectory of this race. All the attention is on the president ial. I asked carl about the wherein senatorial. Back to take him on again. Is he a very popular figure in wisconsin fine gold. What difference it makes whether wisconsin goes for trump, kasich, or cruz for the two senators in terms of how much enthusiasmvg for either one. Well, i think that. And i should say that the senate could go the senate could go democrat if
a democrat is elected. Right. Johnson is one of several senators from blue states that obama won twice that republicans are very concerned about pat toomey in pennsylvania is another one. Rob portman in ohio is another one. And its not only in terms of the numbers, but were talking about some very bright, some very capable senators. Some of the most capable senators on the republican side of the aisle could go down here. And their concern is if trump is at the top of the ticket it, will increase enthusiasm for democratic voters to come out to ther polls. And it is a legitimate concern. They are also concerned over the Supreme Court nominee garland could play as well. You saw the poll numbers but what are the wisconsin voters saying about the candidates. On the record Griff Jenkins is on the ground getting the pulse of the voters there. Griff . We are at the world famous clios where trump held a rally. We began the dayas3f two hours south of here in kenosha. It is sanders rally. In that same poll you are mentioning, sanders leads. If you consider six months ago he trailed clinton by 53 points. Perhaps, part of that revolution senator sanders spoke about. Take a look. Feeling the berne right now. Why bernie . College, man. We are spending money on wars andiy oilubsidies. We have got to educate. Knowledge is power, people. Who are you supporting people for president . Bernie sanders. I like his vision for the country. I think we are a wall street driven economy that is failing. Who are you supporting and why . Im voting for Bernie Sanders. He never voted for a free trade agreement. Nafta has ruined this country. Why are you supporting donald trump . Because is he going to make America Great again. Yeah l the more he a tacked, the more people protest over there, does it make you support him even more . You betcha. Why what about you . Why trump . Because, well, like my shirt says. [ laughter ] i think we just something big, something major needs to change. I just think he is an honest man. I think he means what he says. I think thats a believable thing. Does trump appeal to the people of appleton . Oh, i think so, yeah. Why . My brother is from appleton, he lives in california now. He has been a democrat allm his. Is he voting for trump. Is he changing his Party Affiliation so he can vote in the primary in california. I worked in wall street my whole life. I i know economy. I believe he is the difference. And thats the pulse of the voters here in wisconsin. Were going to continue to keep taking it live from clios the world famous bar where they keep the Christmas Lights on all year long, greta. Inel deed they do thats what makes them so famous. Thank you, griff. Remember the loyalty pledge that each g. O. P. Candidate signed in september in the rnc asked each to sign a document and support the partys eventual nominee. Now, each candidate may be tearing up that pledge. Im no the in the habit of supporting somebody who attacks my wife. Im not asking for support. I want the peoples support. In the nominee is somebody that i think has dividing the country, i cant stand behind them. Donald is not going to be the g. O. P. Nominee. Were going to beat him. He doesnt have to support me. I have tremendous support right now from people. Do you continue to pledge whoever the republican nominee. No, i dont anymore. You dont . Some of the things that i have seen and i have to
think about what my word and endorsement would mean. I sure hope they will endorse me for president when im the nominee coming out of the convention in cleveland. Hows that . The on the record Political Panel is back and caitlin, first, to you. The pledge. I mean, that was so important last fall. Now everyone is sort of doing the two step. Right. Regrets having that huge event where donald trump signed the pledge here in new york. It has actually turned out to back fire now with the party used to be concerned about donald trump leaving and forming his own, you know, third party or independent bid and now you are seeing now that he is the frontrunner and could clinch the nomination, or get the necessary delegates, his rivals are very reluctant to support him. We have even hjaj srat romney recently say if donald trump were the nominee, he would write in a candidate that kind of speaks to where the party is right now and raises questions about whether they can unite at the convention in july. It also raises a question
if you cant keep that promise, that seems like the easiest promise in the world to keep. I think the Republican Leadership would have would rather they have not said anything. Once one said the others felt obligated. This keeps third party talk alive andq well. And if you are the rnc, you are very, very worried about that prospect. What do you do . I dont think. What is the rnc to do . Thats been the problem for the rnc since the start of this race. They are not in control anymore. And thats the problem. They are watching a crackup of the party. And they dont know what to do. I think what they can do is resolve themselves to the fact that the party is not going to be the same after 2016. And they may as well start to deal with what they are going to do in terms of picking up the pieces and putting things back together. Lets bring the viewers in on this one. Its your turn at home to vote on this. On twitter, do you care if president ial candidates bail on the g. O. P. Pledge . Tweet yes or no using greta. We will show you live twitter votes throughout the show. You know, its sort of amazing though that Something Like the pledge has ended up to be almost the i mean, the lightning rod. And its not worth anything either, right . Its just its not a binding contract. An earth to corral them to keep them inside the tent. It turns out not to be at this point. And you have several candidates or these candidates, you know, talking about how they couldnt support someone like donald trump, then even a couple weeks ago ted cruz had said he would support the eventual nominee. F in intervening weeks donald trump had gone after his wife and all of that. He said he couldnt support them. Getting back to that romney apparently sought trumps endorsement four years ago. And now he doesnt now he is running from trump. Thats because. Ingrate disloyal. No. Is he rewriting what is
politically acceptable behavior. And so were in a new era here. And for better or worse, we are in a new era. What you see are more establishment trying to protect their party. They see donald trump as someone who has infiltrated their party. And donald trump would say he is trying to break up their game and they dont like him. Thats what he would say. All right, caitlin, jason, thank you both. We are less than a week out from theos wisconsin primary and Governor John Kasich just scooped up a major endorsement from the states largest newspaper, the Milwaukee Journal SentinelEditorial Page Editor goes on the record. Good evening, sir, why did your paper endorse john kasich . He is not likely to win your state and if you listen to wisdom is he not likely to become the nominee of the party. Hi, greta. Thanks for having me on. Is he not likely to win wisconsin. But we thought that john kasich was, one, a conservative. Is he progun, prolife, fiscally conservative, against obamacare, if thats not conservative, i dont
know what is. Independentminded. Is he willing to work with the other side when he needs to. And we like that about him. Boy do you think Governor Scott walker i was actually sort of surprised governor to governor that he would have endorsed fellow Governor John Kasich. He endorsed instead senator ted cruz. Why do you think that happened . Well, i think its a couple of things. One is i think that there is this understanding among some conservatives that cruz has the best chance of beating kasich. We personally dont buy that woe think that kasich is the second choice of many trump vox5j quite vote. The talk radio culture here in the state also has been very much behind cruz. And so i think walker was influenced partially by that and right now this poll out of Marquette University from donald trump. Do you think thats what were likely to see next tuesday . Well, its hard to say. Trump is not a good finisher as we know. Trump late deciding voters tend not to vote for him. Kasich, on the other hand, might do a bit better in the coming days. So, well have to wait and see. Kasich is pretty far behind. Again, not likely to overtake cruz at this point. How interested are you and i imagine you are pretty interested and i am in particular the former senator Russ Feingold race against ron johnson which could tip democrat or republican. Whats the status on that race . Right. Very much so. Its a very close race. Its within throw Percentage Points now. Feingold has led from the beginning its tightened up a lot in the last poll. As one of your guests earlier pointed out, whoever is at the top of the ticket fall. If its donald trump, that could mean one thing. And i suspect not a good thing for senator johnson. If its either ted cruz or john kasich, it could mean quite another thing. You know, i seen to see a conflict. When they answer the phones they all say ted cruz in
when i listen to everybody the enthusiasm factor seems to be behind donald trump. One thing to answer the phone and say yeah thats who im going to vote for. Its the other to have that robust feeling, drive to go vote. Do you sense that cruz has that enthusiasm factor that donald trump does or not . Well, i think there is a couple of different things. I was at a trump valley yesterday in janesville home of House Speaker paul ryan. Massive crowd. Several thousand inside, several thousand outside. I didnt get there in time so i didnt get in. There is a lot of ontheground enthusiasm on the ground in this state for trump as there is everywhere. Cruz im told from the rock county chair woman there has a great ground game. Like in iowa where did he quite well where he had a good ground game he could do quite well here as well. I thinkqa its two different games and we dont know how many Trump Supporters are actually republicans do we. No we dont. One guy says his brother is a democrat in california is changing his party he grew
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