Take him so far . Senator ted cruzs wisconsin win brings a condition tested or brokered Convention Much closer to a reality. We have to play that game, but its a shame because its a game thats very unfair. Donald trump is looking to new york to prove and provide him a bounceback in the g. O. P. Race. New york is next. This is his home base. He is probably going to win. The on the record Political Panel is here from the daily beast Jackie Kucinich and from the Weekly Standard daniel halper. The state Republican Convention is this weekend. Donald trump is not going but senator ted cruz is is that a mistake . Because delegates are going to be offered up there. Ted cruz has run several delegates from the colorado delegates. This entire time ted cruz has been playing the long game and donald trump is now playing catchup. He wasnt taking this process seriously. And i dont think his team until he brought in some new people really understood the game that any were going to have to play 37 at the end of the day. Donald trump said that he would keep his pledge as long as it was, quote, fair. And if its not fair, he is not necessarily going to keep his pledge to support whoever gets the nomination and not to run out as a third party. There is something to be said for the fact that he won louisiana. But he doesnt get the most delegates out of louisiana. He doesnt get that he doesnt like that. And, frankly, i can understand that. Totally, you can see where he is coming from. At the same time, those are the rules and thats the rules when you try to compete for a partys, you know, to be the partys candidate. You havetoad by by the rules. Playing catch up. He is totally playing catch up. He has done remarkably well running the most campaign thats defied conventional wisdom there are limits to it the limit appears to be in this organizing effort on the state level which is very granular. You have to know each state has totally different rules. Very different. Need to know each states rules. Its complicated and its very hard for one person who has never done this before to do it. Ted cruz has been doing this for a year. He has been organizing for this moment. Donald trump is trying to play catch up and its very difficult to catch up. We being can see that ted cruz has had his attention on the ground game. He won iowa which is a caucus state and where really a ground game matters. Wisconsin he had a great ground game. While he doesnt have the delegates. He is looking much farther ahead and nowwy9 he is trying to siphon off delegates in new york by going to Congressional Districts where there arent a lot of republicans in order to maybe win one here, one there. Who is he . Ted cruz. Donald trump is winning in new york right now. But ted cruz isnt taking that for granted. Is he going to some of these districts with who her numbers of republicans to troy to win with those lower number of republicans and pick off dels here and there to add to his total and keep donald trump from being able to lockdown the nomination on the first ballot. Do you think that donald trump now gets it, this whole delegate game which is far and above beyond the voting game, that he gets the delegate game, that he is serious about doing the ground game to get the delegates and is it too late or not . Well, would he dont know. But is he definitely showing a lot more signs that he gets it than he did a couple weeks ago. He obviously is retooling his campaign to be competitive there. That suggests that he does get it or is getting closer to getting it but the good news for trumpql is, of course, he is the only one that can conceivably get to 1237 to become the nominee. If he hustles now and gets those delegates and he is not going to colorado. He has already sent out e or he sends out an email to washington delegate or to his fans in washington trying to go get them to go be delegates. He not only sent to to washington, d. C. It was two days after the deadline to be a delegate in Washington State there are these hiccups and issues that does make it harder. I guess the phrase youre fired, would be a good one if you ever did that, right . Or youre confused. Or youre confused. 3j3. n daniel, dont go away. With the delegate race on fire, senator ted cruz as we noted trying to wrap up colorado this weekend. Cruz is heading to the bolder state but trump is staying home is that a political misstep. John roberts is live in new york with the g. O. P. Fight. John . Donald trump is staying home, greta, because he doesnt think he could play very well in colorado anyway. So kind of written that one off the map. Going to be looking at other states that are down the road. Ted cruz doing very well in colorado, the final day of the Congressional District convention so far he has picked up 126 the 12 delegates that were available. Well hear about thee more some time in the next half hour or so remaining in the third Congressional District. And then ted cruz is off to colorado himself tomorrow for the Colorado State convention. District conventions overth last few days. State convention tomorrow. 13 at large delegates up for grabs. He hopes to get all of those as well. There is a chance that ted cruz could come out of colorado with a clean sweep. On monday he is heading to california. This really is, above all else, the big play for ted cruz. 172 delegates up for grabs there. Its winnertakeall by Congressional District and he is going to try to keep donald trump from getting any delegates there or at least limit the number of delegates that trump gets. Because, if he can, if he can take a lot of the delegates in california, particularly, greta, if you can take them all. Donald trump has no path to 1237 before the convention. Meantime though, donald trump is trying to deny ted cruz any delegates in the great state of new york. Really hammering cruz and will continue to r this over the new york values comments that ted cruz made during the South Carolina debate back in january. Trump has got a big rally planned for rochester on sunday afternoon. He has a big rally planned for albany on monday evening. He is also going to have rallies in syracuse. Buffalo, way out in the northwest part of the state. And he will be doing a lot of things, too around new york, long island area as well. Meantime, john kasich, the only person who is on the campaign trail. Today he was in fairfield connecticut earlier today. Is he in syracuse tonight. Continues to make the case hey, we get to the convention, im the one that can win. He put out a new ad today, big ad by where he touts new polls out of pennsylvania showing that he not only beats Bernie Sanders handily, 4640 but buries, and i mean burries Hillary Clinton. This was an a. P. Poll, 5135 if kasich goes up against Hillary Clinton in the keystone state. So he is still pretty excited about where he is. A hot of people are saying what chance does he really have . He is playing a long shot, a long card, greta, but he thinks he can win it. John, thank you. And for the second day in a row g. O. P. Frontrunner donald trump not holding any Campaign Event. Earlier trump tweeted this so great to be in new york. Catching up on many things, remember, im still running a Major Business while i campaign and loving it so, if trump is not out and about on the campaign trail, what is his strategy in new york . Former 2016 g. O. P. President ial candidate donald trump supporter dr. Ben carson goes on the record. Good evening, sir. Hi, greta. Niles to see you. Nice to see you. Dr. Carson, what is the strategy . Sort of the confusing thing for people who watch this, each those of us that cover it is you have to the the votes, you win things. Underneath these votes are the delegates that are going to nominate you at the convention. Seems senator ted cruz while donald trump is collecting votes senator ted cruz is going around figuring out the delegate game to get nominated. What is the Campaign Strategy for trump at this point . Well, obviously, to continue to do the things that have been working. But there is going to have to be some adjustment made in terms of focusing on not only gathering delegates but also maintaining them. Thats why paul manifor and why a number of other people are being brought in. The infrastructure is obviously changing to adapt to the new situation that has occurred. What is this strategy that paul manafor. It is going to do for the campaign. He is the best one to talk on that. He has a great deal of experience. Knows what the rules are and the various states. Knows what kinds of things have to be done in order to keep delegates. And you like to keep delegates beyond the first ballot in case thats necessary. So you have to really be thinking in terms of second and third or potentially even fourth or more ballots. Well, this has a little bit of a feel. This whole process of the old comedy routine who is on first pause this rules committee that is going to make all these decisions like a week before the convention, i mean, they can pretty much too what they want. Its sort of hard to figure out exactly how didtodo this because these rules are they seem to be quite fluid. Well, you know, one of the things that the rules committee is going to have to decide is it worth losing everything in order to manipulate the will of the people or do you want to have rules that honor the will of the people. Because, if you do that, you will gain a lot more enthusiasm. And the millions of people who have been brought in will actually grow to even more and they will be enthusiastic and they will defeat the democrats. But, if you dampen that enthusiasm, it doesnt matter what you do, youre going to lose. But shouldnt you have had this debate in the Republican Party, in your party before now . I mean, this whole idea are you going to go sort of the will of the people or go to the rules . Are you going to who can outgame who with the delegates . It really seems i mean, this is april, and the convention is coming up in july and all these campaigns started last summernk it seems like the Republican Party is a little late in sort of ironing out these wrinkles. Well, bear in mind that it really wasnt until relatively recently that the stop Trump Movement developed. And, therefore, no one was really thinking too much about the need for changing the rules. And i hope that, once gipp, when the committees sit sith down and start thinking their overall concern is what is the will of the people . The people have said that they dont like the path that we have been on. They want to change it. If it turns out that donald trump gets 1236, stunt get the magic number of 37 or some lesser number and it goes to a contested convention and there is a wicked knockdown, dragout fight and lets say he is not the one thats nominated by the Republican Party. After, you know, after all is said and done, with you advise him to run as a third party . No. Because that would absolutely guarantee a win for the democrats. And what all the conservatives must remember is that that will guarantee two to four Supreme Court picks that will be progressive, even though thats not the word that really describes them. And that will severely alter the future of this country. Dr. Carson, nice to see you. Thank you, sir. You too, thank you, greta. Now over to the democratic side of the aisle where in the last few days secretary Hillary Clinton and senator Bernie Sanders have been punching each other. Leaving some bruises. But today there seems to be a mutually called timeout. How long did that last is anyones guess. In the short run they arehu now back at aiming at the g. O. P. You may have heard senator sanders say im unqualified to be president. Ive been called a lot of things over the years, but unqualified has not been one of them. This morning he finally acknowledged that of course, he doesnt really believe that. Does she have the experience . Obviously she does. Right. She was secretary of state, a u. S. Senator. I will take Bernie Sanders over donald trump or ted cruz any time. On her worse day, she will be she would be an infinitely better president than either of the republican candidates. On the record Political Panel is back. Daniel, thats a switch. First they say neither one is qualified. Now they are both sort of backtracking on that. Who started this . Well, i guess it was Bernie Sanders in a certain way because he is the one who explicitly said that Hillary Clinton isnt qualified. Though he claims he was responding to an inference that Hillary Clinton made. So who really knows. Perhaps it was secretary clinton. The weird thing is that each side of is looking weak by pretending or sort of faking a certain weakness. Like they are so hurt by how could Bernie Sanders claim that Hillary Clinton. The victim. I dont know how that helps him. And by the way if they think that this is tough, just wait for donald trump. Like is he not going to be nice to them. You know, the republican is not going to be nice to him. I. Think it would behoove both of them to toughen up. Man up. Im not going to say man up but toughen up. Ill say it. And dont act so hurt all the time. Can you take it. There has been a very gentle campaign on the democraticg x side. I dont think anyone is too bruised. They havent been called like lying and low p8 energy. Or worse. Last night jackie, senator Bernie Sanders told seth meyers during the late show that he does not regret the comments about saying secretary is not called he Still Believes her to be 100 percent more qualified than the republican candidates. You are better than the worse is the way it portrays thrrges is no lo loss right now. That is abundantly clear particularly in this new york contest. You have heard that from republicans, too. They will say Lindsey Graham said he would like to kill ted cruz, essentially. Yes, but we are he is fine, i guess. Were seeing this sort of anew in the democrats. Yes. Thats the big deal. If the democrats have been doing this all along, we wouldnt be talking about it. Absolutely. I think we are entering aqf new phase of the campaign where you are hearing the advisors get a little bit more chippy with each other and now its come from the candidates. Its hard to think if this gets closer or narrows at all thats not going to continue. Will it continue . I think it will for at least the next week and a half. Bernie sanders can pull off the unthinkable and win new york. It obviously changes the dynamic of the race. Both he and Hillary Clinton know that if you are not going to go at it now,ing when are you going to go for it . I still dont get how he is running the democratic earth pa. He never wanted to. Wife the dnc allowed him to run as a democrat. He says is he a socialist and didnt want to be called in 2006. Im sure you and Hillary Clinton agree on that. Its bizarre it . Shows where the Democratic Party is he is reflective of a huge portion of the Democratic Party. Probably not enough to get the nomination. I think she played too nice in the beginning and complainas not allow to do be at the stage of the debate. Or he played too nice with her at the beginning. She at least always said she is a democrat. Makes sense her being on a democratic stage. I dont get why is he on the democratic stage when he doesnt want to be there untildd now. Bill clinton is parking controversy with a Fiery Exchange with black lives matter protesters. It all happened at a Campaign Event for his wife. President clinton vigorously defending his own 1994 crime bill. I dont know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13yearold kids hopped up on crack and sent them out on the street to murder other africanamerican children. Maybe you thought they were good citizens. She didnt. Okay. Viewers, now is your chance to view at home on twitter on this one. Do you agree with president clinton . Tweet yes or no using greta. Coming up. We will soow you the poll results. Plus, a bonus what president clinton just said about this issue a short time ago. Now senator Bernie Sanders having fun with the ladies of the view. They poked some fun over Bernie Sanders over subway gaffe. Earlier this week the senator talked about using tokens instead of a metro card. We have something for you. Okay. We have a metro card. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] what is this . What is this . Show you how to use it. I have got to stick up for bernie because that told me that you are a real new yorker because real new yorkers. [cheers] use the3nsyn tokens. Eat it like a real new yorker. I dont see anything wrong with a fork and knife if is have a germ phone moment. This is a lot to eat. Would you like a slice, senator . Now, show us how its done, please. Can i feel it. Are you all ready . [cheers] well, this is just senator sanders g. O. P. President ial candidate, Governor John Kasich took some heat for eating part of his pizza with a fork. A big no no in new york. Probably a lot of other places, too. And tongues are wagging about speaker of the house paul ryan. Did he just drop a big clue . Next. I know what youre thinking and just when you thought the 2016 race couldnt get any wilder speaker of the house paul ryan just made things a little, well, more interesting. I the most of politics these days is this notion of identity politics. That were going to win an election by dividing people. Rather than ins