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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren May 25, 2016 23:00:00

Interview. Greta goes on the record right now. Guess what . Special report online is back. And it begins in six seconds. This is a fox news alert. Rocks hurled at police and their horses and can you see the police and their horses are clad in protective riot gear trying to clear angry antitrump protesters. This all happening in anaheim, california. We have never seen anything exactly like this outside a trump event. Hours after a speech fox news correspondent will carr is live in the middle of it. Will . Good evening, greta. Still a Massive Police presence out here. There are literally hundreds of officers still here swarming the streets of anaheim. Were about a block away from the Convention Center where donald trump held his big rally, 7,000 supporters showing up for that rally. About four hours ago. Now, around the same time on the outside there were several dozen protesters. We are estimating maybe between 50 and 60 as the rally got out, Law Enforcement start to do try to get the protesters to disperse. What they start to do tell them to do is they were having unlawful protest. Well, some of those protesters didnt take to that kindly. They started burning items. They started throwing huge rocks. Eventually they were pushed by long lines of Law Enforcement, just like this on their horses. And they were pushed in to traffic. They started kicking cars. They started continuing to throw rocks, continuing to burn items. Were going to step over here to give you a better look, greta. And as they are doing this, Law Enforcement started to run out and start to do grab individual protesters and take them back behind the line, arresting them. We saw, when we were out here, between 7 and 10 people taken and arrested. There were a couple of times when Law Enforcement went out. Tried to grab some of the protesters. They would run out. They would get behind some of the shrubs. They would start throwing rocks again. This play out at least probably more. Law enforcement tries to continue to push. One Law Enforcement, one Police Officer and one protester. He said if you guys leave, well leave. Obviously there is still, maybe, a dozen protesters intent on trying to create some kind of violent situation. Members of Law Enforcement and Police Departments all across the country are going to have to take into account as this campaign moves forward in november. As donald trump continues to hold rallies across the country, you can see they are continuing to move up here. Unclear exactly what theyre doing. Any time they have moved in these formations we know they have zeroed in on some of the protesters in the area. But, again, members of Law Enforcement all across the country are going to be having to take into account exactly how they are going to deal with these types of rallies and exactly what theyre going to do when protesters turn violent, greta. Will, thank you very much. And were going to continue to monitor this tense situation outside the donald trump rally in anaheim. If things get more heated we will take you back there live. Right now, that when the world is going on in the Democratic Party . Is it imploding . First the breaking news, secretary clinton accused by the state Department Inspector general of not cooperating with this investigation. The Inspector General also accusing the former secretary of not following the rules, specifically the one that pribilitied her from using a private email server. But thats not all. There is more chaos tonight for democrats. Senator Bernie Sanders is now threatening a messy democratic convention. What does that mean . Does that mean trouble in philadelphia . Well it, doesnt sound good. And there is more. Some democrats tonight are calling for dnc chair Debbie Wasserman schultz to get the boot. That cant be good. Where is the current head of the Democratic Party . President obama guiding his party . Not likely. He is out of dodge halfway around the world and all of this just a short time before the democratic convention. Could it be any more chaotic for the Democratic Party . Well, maybe. We still have not heard from the fbi and their investigation into the clinton emails. So i guess the answer is, yes, believe it or not, it could get even worse for the Democratic Party as they approach their division convention. Now, many believe all this chaos on the left could help donald trump on election day. Well, first, youre going to go inside that new state Department Inspector general report on clintons email trouble. Team coverage from our Catherine Herridge who has been covering the email scandal from the very beginning. Lieutenant colonel allen west is here. Good to see you, greta. First of all, what is this investigation . Who did it. The state departments Inspector General who is independent agency inside the state department that does audits of things that need to be looked at. Who asked for it . I believe the state department well, the i mean, the Inspector General doesnt need anyone to ask for it, specifically. I believe they have their own purview. This is separate from the investigation being done by the fbi. Where does this Inspector General report go . Well, its distributed to the public. It goes to the hill. It also is distributed today to the news media but, the key difference between that and fbi investigation is, of course, the criminal investigation. This is looking at whether Hillary Clinton violated any internal policies. What it did find was that there was internal guide dance about the use of personal email accounts and that she didnt meet those. There was a second issue of whether she met the federal retention standards for keeping records. Under federal rules and it also took issue with that. All right. Did she cooperate . Did the Inspector General in compiling actually media reports about 80 pages long. Did she cooperate . No, she did not. She declined to be interviewed at the igs request she also, four of her top aides declined to be interviewed or cooperate with the investigation. The other state Department Secretaries who were part of this report did, they cooperate . They did. Not all of them. Some spoke to representatives. I believe Collin Powell did speak to the ig. That was the one that the ig specifically mentioned as having personal email before with the key difference, you know, secretary powell used publicly available personal email account whereas he didnt have this private server in his basement. You know, was arguably less sciewsh. All right did. She have notice . As i went through the report, the thing i was looking for was whether there was any indication that she had notice that she should have had this private server or email account. These were written policies. They were available to her. The ig specifically said secretary clinton took office opposed to secretary powell took office these rules were very clear what was supposed to happen with personal email accounts. Then in 2010, two people in the Information Management office raised the issue of whether her practices were meeting the federal standards under the records retention policy, and they were essentially told by their supervisor that there had been a legal review, that it was found that they were, that it was approved, and that they shouldnt ask about it anymore. What the ig says is there was no such legal review and there was no such approval. And had she asked, it would not have been approved because of security concerns. One of the things it says in november of 2010 in the report that the deputy chief of staff for operations discussed the fact that she had the private emails and it said and even sent an email to her that we should talk about putting you, remember the eliseing email address to the department. Her response was lets get separate address or device. I dont want any risk of the personal being accessible which, of course, when i saw it didnt say i want to protect the state department email. It says i want to protect the personal. I cant speculate about what secretary clintons motives were. Certainly by controlling access to her server, controlling those records, it would have made it more difficult for anyone to forward any of those emails in the future. Gave her an extra measure of control about what emails got turned over to the department after she left office and what she holds on to and declares to be private. Michael, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Biggest worry over secretary clintons email is security. According to the report 2010 woman to Information Officers raised concerns over use of personal email. When the officers went to their boss they were told to never speak about secretary clintons emails again. Fox news correspondent Catherine Herridge is here. Michael, we just talked about this. What does this mean . There is an important addition to this episode. The supervisor when they were approached by the Inspector General to verify that he told his employees to basically put a lid on it, lawyered up and would not speak to the ig. So that, to me, is extremely significant as well. Now, this is the investigation internally at the state department. Correct. This report. This lengthy report. And there is another investigation, the one being done by the fbi. That one, tell me what the status on that one is. Okay. So the fbi criminal investigation is effectively winding down if you will. They start the periphery and start moving in to the center and they interviewed a number of mrs. Clintons close aids and the question is whether she will agree to an interview herself. I dont know the status of whether she has been approached. But, as you know, the person who was the last to be interviewed by the fbi typically is the target of the investigation. Or the most important one. Correct. I dont think she has received an official target letter as i understand. All right. She didnt cooperate, according to the report with the state department is there any information about that, why she didnt cooperate . There was no information in the ig report, but it does conflict with her public statements that she wants to cooperate and that she has encouraged her subordinates to cooperate. As we know this was not the case with the ig report. The ig report doesnt really have legal implications for the fbi investigation nor for the federal lawsuit over the emails. But its another data point by independent observer that the rules were not followed. It severely undercuts her public claims that she was following the rules and that it was approved. May have more of a political implication, unrelated to the criminal investigation or the fbi. What i would say about the fbi investigation and can i only go on what we have learned through our ongoing report something that they are doing things in a professional and independent manner. If they want to verify a particular chain of events or facts they are doing that independently or not relying on the assessment of outside bodies. Catherine, thank you. Dont go away. I wont. Former florida congressman Lieutenant Colonel allen west goes on the record. Good evening, sir. Good evening. How are you . Very well. The ig, the Inspector General report the state department is not politically flattering for the state department. Explanation other secretary of statement you have the situation where incomplete emails where we certainly can draw inferences about whether or not she was interested in the problem or whether or not she knew about it so your thoughts tonight on this report . Well, it just continues to add to very troubling situation for secretary clinton. You kind of went through that earlier. It continues to underline her trust worthyyness when she says that she operated within all the legal boundaries and now we have the ig saying that she did not. You add that the with email scandal and classification issue that the fbi is looking at. The fact that Governor Terry mcauliff, a very close clinton con if i cant is now under under investigation. You find you have a candidate that is completely on the defense and when she cant talk about those policies. She cant talk about Foreign Policy. She cant talk about the economy, either. What i dont understand is where was her staff . Because i tepid to think that some people who didnt grow up in certain error might not know so much about technology. Staff. Staff she has the cheapest staff. She has lawyers. Where was everybody . People knew about this. Why didnt they say anything to her. Why didnt they speak up . Well, greta, its very simple. If you surround yourself with koolaid drinking sick sickofance. They did not provide the right counsel. They said this secretary of state, we have different rules we follow for ourself and they did not believe that anyone would call them on that. I think thats one of the critical aspects of leadership. Not to surround yourself with people that are going to worship you and be yes people. They will do the right things to make sure that you are following all the right processes and procedures. Just the same as do you with your production staff. Certainly evident from the report that somebody knew something. What i dont get is who knew what, where, and when. Somebody knew something and everybody seemed to ignore it or look the other way. Congressman, thank you, sir. My pleasure, greta. And a Clinton Campaign spokesperson releasing a statement saying, in part, as this report makes clear, Hillary Clintons use of personal email was not unique and she took steps that went much further than others to appropriately preserve and release her records. Today respond to do the Inspector Generals report. We do now have Records Management and Cyber Security policies that would make it hard to approve this kind of outside system to replace your official email. You know, secretary clinton has said publicly, she didnt or she would not make the same choice again. She has also said she did not seek specific approval for this system. While people were aware of her use of personal email. No one had a full and complete understanding to the extent. Systematically every month we went through this 55,000 pages of emails that she gave to us, through the foia process. We he had at this at this edited them. We only dealt with what we received from secretary update on the email story. Secretary clintons email server. Catherine who pled guilty and why . The remaining hack his or her goes by the name gucifer pled guilty to two relatively minor counts. Is he looking at about seven years or less. In exchange he has agree to do fully cooperate with the fbi and the Justice Department in any current and future investigations, including testifying before a grand jury or even testifying at trial. And gucifer is important because its through his hacking activities that we first learned about the clinton email. Com account and that she was using this email specifically for government business. All right. Is the prosecutor convinced that he hacked into her email account . Or is there some sort of gray area on this . I cant speak for the prosecutor. I know he told under the circumstances that he hacked her account. Thats what guc you . Right. Did the prosecutor in court today say gucifer hacked into secretary clinton. No. He confirmed he hacked the account of sydney blume that who is one of mrs. Clintons closest advisors it was blumenthal who exchanged emails with mrs. Clinton sensitive classified information. If you follow the chain, she was using a personal server. She was sending Sensitive Information to blumenthal which made it vulnerable to a foreign hacker. I was told that that could amount to gross negligence in this particular case. Nobody thinks that secretary clinton is selling secrets, National Security secrets. People think that she was insecure with. Careless. Careless is the word. Careless, okay. That she disregarded and disregarded any of the rules and her and was arrogant about the rules. Thats the allegation. Thats right. Not that she is selling anything. No. And what i would say about the hacker is that the u. S. Government does not typically extradite hackers unless they have stolen a lot of money or they have accessed the government system. That was not true in this case. Plus, they extradited. From romania. From romania, when his sentence was not complete. Thats also unusual. It just is beyond belief that the u. S. Government, the fbi and the Justice Department would spend so much time, money, and resources to bring a guy to the United States to plead guilty to two relatively minor charges. He has got something that they want and, based on our ongoing reporting, to me, this i dont believe in coincidences in this particular case. Catherine, thank you. Youre welcome. And can the 20167 candidate strike gold in california in the battle has all the makings of a blockbuster shoot them up hollywood movie. Thats next. Why do some democrats want Debbie Wasserman schultz out . The head of the dnc but her head may be on the chopping block. Thats coming up. The wrong insurance plan. No, i picked the wrong insurance company. With new car replacement, well replace the full value of your car plus depreci

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