Have to unplug him and plug him back in. After that they had to change the name of the show to 64 minutes. Thats it for special reported,fair, balanced and unafraid. Online show now. Okay. Whats this . A private meeting on a private plane. Talking about former president bill clinton and attorney general Loretta Lynch meeting on the ground private plane in phoenix airport. The meeting was yesterday. Just hours before the release of the benghazi reported and the local phoenix abc station got a tip that the meeting was going to happen. After the meeting at a news conference, attorney general lynch confirmed the meeting with the president had taken place. When i was landing at the airport i did see president clinton at the phoenix airport. As i was leaving and he spoke to myself and my husband on the plane. Our conversation was a United States deal about his grandchildren there was no discussion about any matter pending before the department or any matter
pending before any no discussion of benghazi or state Department Emails by way of example. Radio host and editor and chief of Lifezette Laura Ingraham goes on the record. Thats no big deal, greta. You guys are conspiracy theorists. You think something happened at this meeting . Who knows. Maybe they were just discussing gifts for grandchildren and burden of burg techniques. Always go to the grandhillary di things you want to know about my yoga routines in the emails. What do you mean about the emails. Yoga routines and plans for my daughters wedding. Its unbelievable how tone deaf either one of them are on this. Investigating the emails and server and Everything Else and criminal investigation according to josh earnst at the white house and you have got the president of the United States married to a candidate who is being investigated and they meet privately on an airplane even if its 100 percent
innocent. How could you be so tone deaf . Well it, goes back to all the problems in the clinton scandals during his time in the white house. Everyone always said how can he be this stupid and we learn more on this secret Service Agents book of how stupid he was and how just blatant he was about not just appearance of impropriety but actual impropriety. People walking in on him when he was with other people. I dont know why any of us are surprised. There is a brazen effort to undermine sorry u. S. Law and at the very least the appearance of improprietor and ethical considerations which you and i know as lawyers people take very seriously. We have got the head of the investigation and the spouse of the person who something investigated. She is being investigated i dont know did she is the target. Meeting on a private plane for 30 minutes. The appearance of a conflict can be just as damaging and poisonous to a case at times as a conflict
itself. An actual conflict. Thats why you avoid situations like this. The last thing they need is any further undermining of the objectivity of this investigation which of course called a security review until she was corrected by the fbi director. I dont know what they are talking about security reviews. This is an actual investigation. The appearance of a conflict of interest of lynch now, i think there is no doubt about it. What do you think obama is thinking tonight, finding out that his chief lawyer did this and what do you think secretary Hillary Clinton is thinking about the fact that her husband met with him and this is. Depends on if she asked him to talk to her. I mean, who knows. I cant believe she would be that stupid. Honestly. How would you be stupid enough to find out no one was going to find out about a private email server at a time where when your Family Foundation was soliciting donations from foreign governments. That is like the definition of stupid. Yet, she did that. Its amazing to me. Its though they are giving their political opponents ammunition every single day. Every single day we find out about emails held back or other witnesses taking the fifth. Again, it just adds to the publics lack of belief and good faith in this investigation. And today was just another instance of it being chipped away again and again its not surprising given the clintons and their brazen behavior. The president when discussing this issue in each stage has reiterated his commitment to this principle that any criminal investigation should be conducted independent of any sort of political interference and that people should be treated the same way before the law regardless of their political influence. Regardless of their political party. Regardless of their political stature and regardless of what political
figure has endorsed them. Think of the power of the former president of the United States in a private meeting with anybody. And he is a big deal figure. And. Who knows what was said, greta. Maybe nothing. Maybe it was all about baby clothes. It doesnt even matter what was said. Thats the thing. It could be totally innocent. It really doesnt matter because its so profoundly it shows you how disconnected they are from Public Perception or any concern of Public Perception or integrity in the investigation. She should know better, too. Yes, she should. After that appearance down in orlando, im not surprised by that either. Laura, thank you. Thanks. Should Loretta Lynch recuse herself take herself off the case in the email investigation. Ted williams and former prosecutor katy phang ted, first to you. As the chief lawyer on this case and criminal investigation, should she take herself off it . Let me say my friend,
laura ingraham is too nice in regards to what she has had to say. I think the attorney general has compromised the integrity of any independent decision that she could make in this investigation. Greta, i dont care how private or grand mother it was. Its the appearance. Hillary clinton is under investigation by the fbi. Loretta lynch is in the position where she is going to have to at some stage make a decision one way or another concerning the prosecution of Hillary Clinton. And to meet with the president s with the potential candidates husband under this circumstance she needs to recuse herself and i guarantee you the drums are going to beat lookout for her to do so. Katie . You have to avoid the appearance of impropriety as an attorney and especially as the attorney general of the United States. How much more important would it be for her to avoid
this . She is ultimately the decisionmaker as to whether or not Hillary Clinton is going to be prosecuted for what happens with the benghazi scandal. Hillary has said she is just like do you really think just before the benghazi report comes out they only talked about grandchildren and golf . Think about this, guys. They are having this private meeting. They dont disclose it to anybody. If you had nothing to hide. Why not let people know from the very beginning that you met and that you talked about nothing at all. You know, what i dont understand is that this one to me isnt even close. Its not one of those gray areas. No. Because there is nothing that whole the thing that is so branded in all of us, the appearance of impropriety to have the person going to make the decision whether or not this goes to a grand jury, goes a step farther or not, have that person meet with the spouse of the person who is under investigation in a plane. Former president no less. Even if they do talk
about grandchildren, this one isnt even close. What in the world was that woman thinking . I mean. What is that attorney general saying . I blame her. When i got the call this afternoon from cory howell, one of your producers, the first thing i said this is stuck on stupid. You are the attorney general for the United States. You know better. If William Jefferson clinton. I hope she doesnt know better. Thats even scarier. This is not a dumb woman. She a smart woman. She knew she shouldnt have met with him. She tries to walk it back we met and talked about family matters. If the appearance its the appearance. And this is what is going to hurt this whole thing. She needs to recuse herself. Actual thing is we are giving them the benefit of the doubt that it was an innocent discussion. We havent even got tonight fact that some people a lot are suspicious that this wasnt just an appearance of impropriety issue that there is something going down on this. But we are giving them the benefit of the doubt and absolutely all scandalized
by. This im stuck on the fact that ted just said that she was in bed with bill clinton. Putting a side, even giving it the benefit of the doubt, maybe Loretta Lynch actually i take back the maybe. She has got to remove herself from. This let somebody else decide. Why allow any question into the i object telling gri at this of the ultimate investigations results. You should never do that especially at this high level. Its a bad idea. Its not a close question to me. She should get off this case is it a close question for you, katie . Not at all get off the case. Clearly not a close question for me. She has to get off the case because, trust me, you are going to heart drums beat and see donald trump with something on this right away. I mean. Im surprised we havent heard it already the emails. I dont know one lawyer i can think of, i dont care democrat or republican, who would not be scandalized by. This i talked to a federal judge afternoon. And he was beside himself. He said no. As a matter of fact, i talked to two federal judges and they both were beside
themselves and said no, the attorney general did not do. This. See, i think thats what the viewers have to understand. Even if Nothing Happened at all, the new discussion about emails or benghazi, this was so profoundly against the code of professional responsibility. Exactly. The appearance of impropriety. It smells and stinks. Its as simple as that. Ted and katie, thank you both. Now to the damning bection report. Long awaited house report was released and immediately the outrage from the g. O. P. Began to grow. The buck starts at the top at the state department and at the time the person running the state department was Hillary Clinton. They had two different stories. Privately they told the truth. Publicly they mislead the american people. Why . Politics. Barack obama for reelection purposes lied to the american people. Hillary clinton as the loyal puppets of barack obama lied to the american people. There is no other possible explanation. [shouting] its sickening. Its infuriating. It is sickening. Secretary clinton put politics and her political legacy way ahead of the people on the ground. Hillary clintons ally also try to white wash this and cover it up. There is in covering up the incompetence and immediate default of the politics. It makes me regret that any of these people have ever ended up in power. The burning political question will the benghazi report hurt secretary Hillary Clinton. The on the record Political Panel is here from the post stephen dinan. This private conversation on the tarmac between the attorney general Loretta Lynch and president bill clinton. Lets assume they just talked about being grand patients. Is that appalling to the legal the legal world we are upset. We talked about this in the past imagine the fbi recommends prosecution and the Justice Department says no we are not going to pursue that after a conversation like this comes
to light. Thats where things get really tough for everybody. It looks bad. It looks bad no matter whether Legal Profession or not. Once appalling. At the same time it goes into Donald Trumps talking points which is that the system is corrupt. He says it on all areas. Including the legal and Justice System and i think anybody would look at this and suggest something as you guys said earlier, at the very least it looks bad and i think it fits right into his narrative and really hurts Hillary Clinton. I cant get over either one of them, either the attorney general or the president doing even if its just sort of. You can understand why the president would want to do it the attorney general should know better. Lets face it. Is he a friendly type guy. He talks to everybody. Thats bill clinton. Should be smart enough not to do that. Knowing that it feeds into his political opponents. Benghazi, damaging to secretary clinton or no. Not so much right now for a couple of different reasons. The democrats did a really
good job of tarnishing the panel, the investigation over the last two years including releasing their report a day early essentially exonerating mrs. Clinton. Mentioning trump about 50 times and he had nothing to do with it. You cant blame trump for this one. No matter. What you cant blame trump. Democrats did a good job of sort of taking a lot of fire out of the report. The report doesnt have any smoking guns. There is a lot of really interesting information in there. And its a fascinating read. A very thorough read but no smoking gun. The main thing is, that, look, this all comes back to what we were just talking about. Hillary clinton, the most important thing out of the benghazi probe was the secret email server. Troubles rise and fall what the Justice Department does. The investigation really has not just investigation really the the appearance that she didnt handle benghazi correctly and four americans died and perhaps she could have done something. Its really her trust numbers and poll numbers the last couple of years leading up to this point and hurt her numbers in how she deals with terrorism and other issues whereas Foreign Policy being the top diplomat should have been a strength for her going. In because of this, it has become a weakness of hers. By the way, one you dont hear her talk about much on the campaign trail. See, whats peculiar to me about this, bengals, i dont understand why i mean, this has become a real diplomatic problem for her, as the secretary of state, but where was the secretary of defense . I mean, he has been hiding under the table since this broke. And where was the president that night . This became a military action and for some reason our chief diplomat when we are under attack is handling our military stuff . Where were they and why isnt she effectively sort of brushing this off into sort of politically making it their problem . I think daniel touched on this. Its a very good point that libya was her baby. Libya was supposed to be her success and much of the report goes into the fact that part of the reason why we have this diplomatic presence mr. And possibly part of the reason why we fought so hard to keep it there when everybody else is pulling out of benghazi was because she wanted a deliverable out of that. That may be true but here is the one thing that president obama wont answer in those questions that the panel sent to him that he has refused is what in the world were we doing there . Nobody has identified that im not convinced that this wasnt something else. Some sort of Covert Military thing going on there. We had a huge cia presence there. What was that all about . The report doesnt go into that. Yes. And the president wont answer that. How much of a real story are we getting on this. I think we have gotten a lot. There is certainly more. Honestly it will be decades before things become declassified and we understand that element of it which will be important and, you know, history thats why history gets written years later for that reason and many others. I think president obama does
in a certain way president obama and leon panetta, the defense secretary at the time they arent completely exonerating they did say. Where were they that night . Thats the peculiar thing . President obama said you guys handle it do whats necessary. Do whats necessary . Leon panetta said go in there and Hillary Clinton appears to have overruled them according to the report. Why is the secretary of state making military calls . I think thats an interesting angle it uncovers. Im not surprised there is not more hands on. Problem with our show breaking news hands on. I wont say see you later do. What you need to do. For some reason it still stuck with me where was the president that night . What was he doing and where was the secretary of defense . Anyway. Maybe history will tell us. Daniel and steven, thank you both. Benghazi report faulting the security lapses. Lapses tribute to do the deaths, the murders of four americans. Marine, Benghazi Annex Security Team member john
t. G. I. Tigg. Your thoughts about the report . You any, i they keep saying there was no smoking gun. Might have been a huge smoking gun for hillary. You saw the incompetence for the whole duration and leadership from the president on down to even some of the commanders in the africon. If panetta and obama said hey, you know, go, go, go. And nothing even goes. Well, thats totally incompetence and lack of leadership. See, and what i dont get and this fall as little bit on the discussion we just had. Saying okay, go ahead, go do it. And then where were they the rest of the night . I mean the place was burning down. We had two that were dead. We had two that were going
to die. And what i dont understand is where was everybody . The report seems incomplete to me. I wish the president would answer the questions where was he . What was he doing . Who did he assign to do what . Yeah. I mean, you know, for the fact that they had a u. S. Ambassador that had been missing, you know, for six hours and the joint chiefs they want to go and have a dinner and obama he wants to go and do a fundraiser and hillary Hillary Clinton wants to go to sleep. I can understand it was just the agency being attacked. The fact that there is a u. S. Ambassador missing they did work 22 years. Worked his way up through. He didnt d. Didnt give president obama 22 million to become ambassador. You would think they would stay there and support him. I