Disturbing new details emerge on the beheading of american journalist james foley. The Obama Administration is now revealing a team tried and failed to rescue foley and other hostages this summer. Critics are saying the existence of that mission should have been kept quiet. I think this is a stunning breach of security for the United States, obviously ordered by the white house. I cannot conceive of the pentagon releasing this on their own. This is exactly the sort of thing that should remain completely confidential for 50 years. But the Administration Says they only announced the failed mission because a number of Media Outlets were preparing to report on it, giving them no choice. Meantime, were told foley was one of at least three americans held by isis, and theyre threating to kill another journalist. Catherine herridge is live from washington, she joins us now. Hi, catherine, its kimberly. A lot of emotions running high on this, and it seems like perhaps a little bit of bounceback from the white house the say, look, we did try. Reporter well, thats right. U. S. Intelligence officials have said privately that operating in iraq and syria is extremely difficult. Eric holder confirmed this morning that the administration is pursuing a Traditional Law enforcement model to bring foleys kidnappers and killers to justice. The Justice Department is actively pursuing justice in this case. We have an open criminal investigation. And those who would perpetrate such acts need to understand something. This Justice Department, this department of defense, this nation, we have long memories, and our reach is very wide. Reporter at that same News Conference holder did not rule out t the use of lethal force, specifically targeted killings via drones for the jihadists who held foley as well as two other americans who were the focus of that rescue attempt early in the summer. We will not forget what happened, and people will be held accountable one way or the other. Reporter also today a journalist who was held with foley and released last april told french tv that isis found out about foleys brother and that he was in the air force, and as a result, foley was singled out for mock executions. And in one gruesome episode he was asked to pose as if he was going to be crucified. Also this morning as you mentioned there is strong pushback against the administerings decision for releasing details of the failed rescue attempt in syria. Those who have work inside the special Operations Community tell me it may make it harder to go back into syria in the future and make direct retaliation against the other Americans Still being held. One former member of the special Operations Community said the flip side sends a message the u. S. Government will come for its citizens and that counters the benghazi narrative. Kimberly . Okay, catherine. Well, thats a lot of information. Not quite certain, though, why eric holder is making those comments. As a former prosecutor, i dont see it very feasible that theyre going to find that individual or those individuals responsible. What, bring them back to the United States and prosecute them and try them in a court here . Thats, to me, doesnt seem to make a lot of sense, that hes the one making these comments. I dont know, it seems like kind of a very large extension of his role. Reporter well, i dont i cant speak for why he made that decision this morning. He was taking a series of questions, but i can tell you, kimberly, we had our first hint at the state Department Briefing yesterday that the administration was going to pursue this very Traditional Law enforcement model to go after the killers of jim foley. Thats significant because that has been the strategying of this administration. They have been consistent. What weve seen in the benghazi terrorist attack is that it took about 18 months to brick one of the bring one of the suspects back to washington, d. C. , and what weve been told by sources who could not speak on the record is that there may be significant issues with the evidence in that case and whether it will be admissible in a d. C. Federal court. So to apply the same syria, how does one get an fbi team, how do they a gather evidence from a crime scene exactly. Reporter obvious questions. Right, exactly. Hey, catherine, this is sandra smith here. By the way, we just have in that the fbi director comey is saying the u. S. Will bring its full force against these savages. General jack keane this morning was commenting on the airstrikes and how we have seen incremental airstrikes by the United States. Hes saying that we need to step these up, that its not enough. In fact, john mccain said we need to step them up twentyfold. What are you hearing along those lines as far as our attack and our well, the muchneeded and wanted comprehensive strategy overall against isis . Reporter well, it really divides, sandra, into two positions. One is that were going to continue to go down this road of these sort of consistent airstrikes. This is what the president has said again this week. And the second is that they need a more comprehensive strategy to deal with isis. Based on my reporting in the ic or the intelligence community, what you hear are repeopledly is that this is not repeatedly is this is not a problem that can be solved just by kinetic or military action. What we have here with isis is really a battle of ideas, that its much larger than that. And i think when we look at the timing on the release of this information about the rescue mission, one has to question whether the Administration May have Additional Information now about one of the americans who was held, so the love, the isis members were very specific about what the action was they would take if the airstrikes continued. And if theres one thing thats true about isis, they are very consistent. They do what they say they will do. In the case of foley, they told the family a week ago, in essence, that he was going to be killed, and then the video popped up. Lets hope thats not the case with the remaining americans, but that has certainly been the strategy of isis. Katherine catherine herridgek forward to hearing from are you throughout the day on fox news. Harris, a lot of information yeah. Contained, you know, within that report and that briefing. You asked the right question. Really, really . Were going to bring them back and prosecute them here . You mentioned the fbi director comey, he goes on to say im very, very, very sorry to say that these savages have turned it into a homicide investigation. No. No. This is an act of war, from what im reading, from the generals ive interviewed. And then theres this two Defense DepartmentOfficials Say that they have asked and cannot believe the details that have been given out through the Obama Administration about this attempted rescue mission. Whatever happened to no comment . The administration does that all the time. Youre right. Those kind of details should never be released. It could compromise future operations as well. Well, the next operation to go in and get the other journalists in harms way. Not just future operations, the very next one down the line. Im trying to think of what kind of reason could possibly exist why they would do that. Was it to look more proactive . Yes. Like we wanted to look like we were involved . Doing something. And yet you have to consider that is potentially worth risking our future involvement in that region and our future position of power. Weve now let them know that we engaged in a failed mission, and we let them know exactly how we went about it. No, we let them know how we failed. Yeah, exactly. Thats the problem. So is barack obama willing to do that in order to seem to be politically engaged in this . If so, thats a dangerous position for this president to take. I think the answer is, yes. And i think that the president , obviously attorney general holder, they dont have it in mind that we are at war. Theres a disconnect. This is a criminal act. Well, you release this information. Good politically for them, they may feel, and its were not in that situation where you would manage information as strictly as though we were at war. Holder misses the point psychologically, i can tell i would tell him that if he were here. These people dont care if we have long memories. Theyre thinking hundreds or thousands of years for them to achieve their religious views and dominate the planet. They dont care that eric holder has a long memory. Theyre probably halving about it, because if anybody looks jv, its eric holder and the administration because what kind of response is that . These guys at isis arent hanging out at the local starbucks waiting the get picked up. It is so tone deaf and so completely irresponsible that its frightening. Well, and, you know, having worked certain investigations, ive been told as a member of the media sandra, im sure youve heard this too the authorities will say, look, i cant give you everything right now. If youll hang out bottom line well let you be maybe on a behindthescenes, off the record note while we carry out this next mission which might rescue somebody, well give you the video, well do whatever. So what were getting at is that this messes up the possibility of saving other hostages or rescuing ore hostages. At the end of the day, we decided this was political in nature. I go back to some comments by john mccain this morning, every white house is political. This is the most political white house he says he has ever seen in his history. That being said, we turn now to what happens here at home. Dick cheney, former Vice President , was on fox news last night warning about the next thing is a large terror attack on u. S. Soil. Warning that theyre coming here. We have to go there. But yet we still have a president , kimberly, thats talking about containment. Uhhuh. And that is, that is the key issue right now. And thats what has everybody scared here. Thats a big problem. Im actually very concerned. Usually i think, okay, theres people in charge that might be actually moving on target and understanding the expansion and the nature of the job that we have to do. Contain what . Well theyre going to make sure that they continue going forward, because change the name tomorrow. The president s main containment mission since hes taken office is containing the United States from the apology tour to his wife saying shes never been proud of this country to eric holder going to a community and saying, hey, listen, i understand, i was besieged by police too. All of this is about dialing back american presence around the world. Right. Thats what theyre up so to. And this is the result. This is a direct result. No surprise. Can you believe that if were nicing to those people theyre somehow going to leave us alone . Thats not how terrorism works. He still hasnt gotten the message. Its not a third grade sand box situation. No, its not. If the president seems not to like the american people, that doesnt help others around the globe moderate their views. You get a lot of emails, dont you . [laughter] youre going to get some more today, let me tell you. 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One witness saying Michael Brown allegedly came at wilson during their confrontation, badly beating him, and we have heard reports of injuries that occurred for officer wilson. Meanwhile, attorney general eric holder is back from his trip to ferguson where he met with investigators, Community Leaders and the brown family. He spoke earlier about his visit. The National Outcry we have seen speaks to a sense of mistrust and mutual suspicion that can take hold in the relationship between Law Enforcement and certain communities. I wanted the people of ferguson to know that i personally understood that mistrust. I wanted them to know that while so much else may be uncertain, this attorney general and this department of justice stands with the people of ferguson. There are also growing demands for the removal of the ferguson prosecutor, bob mccullough, from this case given his close ties to police. His father was a policeman, so ive read, and his ties to the Police Department there. People are concerned about that. However, governor can jay nixon has said hes not going to do that, hes going to leave him right where he is. In fact, you know what, kimberly . I want to start with you on the legal side of this case and particularly with this prosecutor. What are your thoughts on that matter . I find it appalling that they would make this kind of, you know, assumption that he is unfit to be able to fulfill his oath that he takes. This is his job. We raise our right hand, we take an oath to follow the law, to not put personal opinion, bias, feelings, past experiences, Family Experience in the courtroom, at the desk or when you open the file. I assume that he would be able to do his job and do it very well and do it fairly. Theres nothing in this prosecutors record to suggest any form of bias whatsoever. Why would we be guilty of what other people are are always complaining about, being prejudiced or prejudging in this situation . Jedediah, where do you think we are on all this . Were hearing about people coming from other communities and showing up on the streets of ferguson, and a lot of the violence has been via those actors that have nothing to do with the original can i mean, its been 12 days since the original shooting. And its sad, because it has tainted the image of the community, and many members of the community have been nonviolent, and theyre saying people are coming from the outside and theyre giving our community a reputation. Im glad the violence was not as bad last night. And in response to what kimberly said, i have to say i agree. Whos to say that many prosecutors are going to have relationships with Law Enforcement . We cant just Say Something about his character that all of a sudden just because he may have ties to Law Enforcement or otherwise that he may be unfit to have noble character in this. Thats maligning his character. He does have a past, he has a history in terms of a couple of cases that he has handled where there were questions about him, and kimberly talked about that. I would th