Outnumbered. Meghan i love you documented your flight here. Antonio its a movie. Sandra i feel lucky that im here when youre on. When youre on, people crowd the screen. Harris welcome for the first time. Its such a big news day. Lets do the news. With that potential tie vote as i mentioned in the senate, Vice President mike pence may have to cast the deciding vote. Heres how we got here. Two republican senators of maine and alaska announced they would not support her. At that place in with the democrats on this issue. Not enough for the democrats to block devos. They held an all night talkathon. Watch. And my mind, she is the least qualified nominee in a historically unqualified cabinet. If she is confirmed, she would enter this job as the most controversial and embattled secretary in the history of this department. The American People are making their voices heard in every senate office, the switchboard has been essentially shut down, and i can tell you that i received over 14,000 calls from maryland on this nominee alone. Harris the democrats do not have at all themselves. Republican senator scott made a plea why she is right for the job and why a change must come to americas education system. One of my friends on the left said education is a right. But for too many of our childre children, quality Public Education is not. It is simply not happening. Harris lets it up on the facts. Mike emanuel joins us live from the hill. Good afternoon. At this one has been tense with the Teachers Union mobilizing very early on to try and kill betsy devos nomination to be our next education secretary. It lets take a lie look at the senate floor were this critical confirmation vote should be Getting Started any moment now. Democrats upheld the senate floor for about 24 hours to criticize this nomination, trying to pressure one more republican it to join with them to defeat and reject betsy devo devos. The democratic leader defended their campaign to defeat her. Its not democrats were bitter about the election. Its the American People who are bitter about the nomination. Thats why millions and millions of calls, almost unprecedented on a cabinet nomination, have poured into this capital. Vice president mike pens arrived to preside. Hes expect it to break a tie, siding with the democrats on this one saying they will opposes nomination. In the Vice President breaking the tie would be historic. The pelicans are blasting obstruction. Now is the time, as a democrat equator said, to put the country before party. One way to do so is to end the unprecedented delay weve seen by democrats on the president s cabinet appointments. Republicans are critical of democrats, saying that confirmation of the trump cabinet is the slowest since George Washington. If bottom line, betsy devos has been a target of the democrats from the very beginning. Harris you point to how this is a bigger issue than this particular nomination process for education secretary. It is that 4 out of 15 cabinet members who have been confirmed. I do want to say that while you are bringing us those facts, the story continued inside on the floor and now the vote has begun. We will be watching that together. Mike emanuel, we may come back, but thank you very much from capitol hill. Lets talk about this as a voting is now underway. Antonio it would be nice to see both parties support our president s for once. He has been working extremely hard, putting a lot of things together in a very short amount of time. It would be nice to see the Democratic Party just toughen up and support President Trump for one spirit we have some tough times coming up. Harris abby, i want to point out this is very slow. President obama, 12 of 15, nearly all. George w. Bush, 14 about 14 of that time, clinton, 13 of 14, and of the list goes on. Gh w bush, 6 of 13, it may be a little. This is historic at this point on the state. Abby as mike emanuel said, the other time its been this slow, George Washington era. That really puts it in perspective. I think ultimately, the america people are the ones who are hur hurt. If we really want to get going on obamacare and health care, people arent in place to do their job. I think the other big sign here is what does this mean for the next three years . If they are already making this complicated in just a few weeks that hes been in office, what is it going to be like a year from now . At getting anything done, as you said, at a certain point, the output politics aside and say we have to do this for the American People. Harris you look at, megan, what has been done and why john kelly has been the focal point. That is one thing where the president has been able to put his focus on immigration and foreign policy, because he does have that secretary in place. Meghan the anger towards betsy devos, simply for looking at our Public Education in a different way. She is Charter Schools, using different ways that we can reassess how Public Schools are running, everything about donald Trump Presidency is about reassessing the way things have always been done. I dont know why its so surprising that his cabinet picks can be a little unorthodo unorthodox. The vitriol at her is shocking in a way i cant believe. I find it a little sexist. I dont understand why youre allowed to parody her in a way the video on on saturday live. The tone that is coming out of f these democrat lawmakers. I just keep thinking of this dystopian, alien movies. At the end of the world is coming, hes the worst president in history of history. As abby said, is this what is going to be like for the next four years . Everyone that sat in that chair, antonio, who has come fresh out of washington, charlie hurt yesterday said it is chaos in washington right now. Antonio its disgusting. Washington needs something new. After the day is done, Washington People are supposed to work for the American People. Whats been going on is there a very selfish and their party. Theyre fighting President Trump to this day and its going to be tough. Hes a tough guy, weve got the right guy in office. Sandra Chuck Schumer just said its not the democrats that are better, they are bitter about the nomination of betty divorce. Meghan it goes against everything teachers need. For a lot of people, its not just about getting education, but getting quality education as well. I dont understand why having a person take this job who comes from a different space, why is it so unusual and so hard for these people to grasp that this is the type of person donald trump would put into place . Harris she sits in that box of being so different. At the people hes putting in place, not just in this cabinet position, but others as well. We look at Rex Tillerson and no criticism that has come there. How would you take a different look at the same people . Thats the definition of insanity. I want to drive everydays attention to capitol hill now. If youre just tuning into outnumbered, we are watching potentially history be made. This is the nomination process. The vote is underway on the floor of the senate right now. The Vice President is the president of the senate, so they do come out in a 50 50 tie which is to republicans who announced that they would join democrats in the vote against the nominee, betsy devos. If that happens, the gnu c Vice President mike pence step up and break that tie with his vote. Abby sandra, he made a good point. At this just highlights what people hate so much about washington, d. C. , and it dysfunction that have seen played out for years now. I ask you, antonio, what did you like about donald trump question market you came out very early to support him. You said was most attractive, he was the opposite of politics. He was going to go in and do things differently. You realize theres only so much you can still do as president of the United States put yourself to deal with congress and the dysfunction that exists. Antonio politicians are getting more powerful. Whats going on in california is horrendous. At the country is going literally under the water. These people talk a lot of talk. We have a president who backs up with a lot of hard work and changing things around. Hes still fighting them. Well keep fighting and were going to win at the end of the day. Harris i want to hear the voice of our president if we can. He spoke earlier today under the bigger umbrella that only 4 out of 15 of his cabinet nominees have been confirmed. Watch. Im having a hard time getting approvals. Its only a delay tactic. Its all politics. One person came up to me, a democratic senator, came up to me the other day and it said it Jeff Sessions is a fantastic man. Hes fabulous, hes a friend of mine, hes a great talent. Were lucky to have them. I said oh, great, that means youre voting for him. He said no, i wont be doing that. A politics dont allow me to do that. I said it was a disgrace. Abby if i can put this into perspective, this will be the first tiebreaking vote happening in the senate by a Vice President since march 13th, 2008 and that was by president dick cheney on a budget resolution. This is a big moment. Harris i want to add this also. We have a lot of emails giving us some guidance. He says please start with the senate, Vice President pence is not breaking the potential tie yet. Its interesting, well have to see how this shakes out before we see the Vice President walk onto the floor. If going for 24 hours, the democrats could bring on another republican, we probably wouldnt be watching this as closely. Democrats potentially would have blocked it. Democrats can think themselves for where they are. Sandra megan, how much of this is because of what they have . You look at what theyve experienced in this last cycle, they blast across the board. This is really all they have hang onto. Meghan this political theater at its very worst. I want to know how long its going to take to get his entire cabinet for it confirmed. At this rate, its going to take till the summer. At this point, we can get anything done if he doesnt have his cabinet in place. How unamerican is that . Harris how they put in place the nominee for attorney general, Jeff Sessions, republicans would have been in more trouble because it would have lost this vote out of the senate, right . Democrats are going to suffer a great loss. They still couldnt pull another one to defeat. It just goes downhill from ther there. Antonio they will lose again for years down the road. I need to be hired for the council. I have to work. Harris again, we are watching the vote on the floor. Antonio i want to change formatting in schools, bring better food in the cafeterias, im very passionate about that. I have kids, im into fitness, lets hurry up. I know the Fitness Council is probably at the end of the list. Harris talk seriously though. First Lady Michelle obama tried to do something with schools and there was such a backlash, how would yours be different . Antonio i would work a lot harder than she did. I think she came and went for publicity events, she stepped in and out. She didnt continue the process. You have to keep doing it for 8 years. It was only on tv a couple times a year. Meghan hes right. Theres so much backlash against the quality, taste of the food. If youre in a place, literally being the ambassador better schools in america. Harris right now, we are waiting to see if betsy devos will be the next education secretary. 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I can tell you, from our producer on the hill, that both Susan Collins of alaska and maine respectively had voted no. Or nay as they say in successions. At those of the true republican senators who have said no to betsy devos for education secretary. At that would mean that this is going along party lines with a pickup of two. It democrats able to pull on board republicans. It would need another one if they were going to steal this thing, because a Vice President , as president of the senate can step up. Theyre going to tell me from the control room if we are going to listen and for this, and i will stop talking when that happens. For right now, senators are stepping up and casting their votes. We will stay with this picture because of some point, if necessary, we will see the Vice President enter, take his seat and he will cast the tie vote. Sandra Susan Collins asked if she will have to break a tie today and she said we will see. Antonio its taking so long and so slow, can we just move on . We have a lot of people in need, a lot of Homeless People living on the street, we have the veterans, have so much to do. This is just taking so long. I hope at some point, they will come together and work. The Vice President will Say Something very soon. Its a shame that we are dealing with this kind of slowdown. Abby as you said, who knows how long this will take . If it goes as expected, harris, they will all get through at the end of the day. Then you have to think about the democrats. How did they look in this process . If you compare this to George Washington days and how long this is taking, this is about the American People. We have got to get things moving again. You have to get things working again. This is just frustrating. Harris you know its inching about that. Megan, weve talked about this on the couch before, its deeper than that for democrats. Yes, you play to our base and you fight and you fight and you fight. Does losing play to your base too . Meghan the only message they have right now as we hate donald trump, his entire cabinet. That is not a message that will inspire people. Its fascinating to see come after 2008, 2012, republicans really did come together with a different message. It going forward, i just dont know what theyre going to say to the American People other than we hate donald trump and we are different. What is their base rate now question and really is the most prominent members of their party are from california, massachusetts, new york. This is not going to win over the middle of the country. In the meantime, your angering a group of swing voters. Nobody likes this, i dont care who you are. As abby said, theyre going to get through one way or another. Sandra we just see the anger all across the board, everything will nominee is being criticized, torn apart, its tough to see where there really critical and where they really have a problem with his nomination. Abby this should be a huge wakeup call for the Trump Administration for how things are going to go over the next four years. He also had members of Congress Talking about trying to impeach him already paired how many weeks has it been . Harris its not time yet. It is been an f President Trump even abby if it takes this long, its going to eat take everything to get anything done. Harris it will be interesting to see if judge neil gorsuch which does get them to come along. Thats a fight that is also going on potentially over the next six weeks or so. Its important. Youve got the executive order on immigration, which we may see swing back peered at the constitutionality seems to be upheld. People have problems with that, we will see how that goes. Can we talk a little bit about betsy devos . Many Charter Schools across the nation are actually not private schools. I got a niece and one down in dallas, texas, its a public school. You have been there in new york. The criticism of her only being cozy or knowledgeable about private schools with regard to charter, i think its an interesting one. Sandra megan, you pointed out to many occasions, theyre not criticizing her track recor record. Meghan its interesting because Rex Tillerson is controversial. Hes not being called the worst pick in the history of the country by Chuck Schumer. I do find this to be shrouded in sexism. I find it i dont know if they would be saying this they didnt do it to Rex Tillerson. I dont understand why the anger is so intense with her, other than she is complete look at the way Public Schools are run from a complete a different lens, different angle. Wanting to take a second look at Charter Schools. I dont know. I think whats happening to her is really unfortunate. Abby its also what people expected for donald